What desperation causes a person to stab themselves?

[wblastyn]

I think the main reason I cut myself was as a cry for help. I wanted my parents or someone to see the scars on my arm to know I was in pain because I don't think anyone would take me seriously if I told them I was depressed. But after a while I got afraid of people seeing my scars in case they thought I was a psycho or something.

 

[TheOriginalWhitehorse]

I think the main reason I cut myself was as a cry for help. I wanted my parents or someone to see the scars on my arm to know I was in pain because I don't think anyone would take me seriously if I told them I was depressed. But after a while I got afraid of people seeing my scars in case they thought I was a psycho or something.

 

[*Emily*]

Hmmm i use to cut aswell, i haven't done it in the strictest of senses for quite a few years. Its strange how harming yourself can make you feel better. After i moved on from cutting i tended to go and get piercings/tattoos when i was feeling pain, it gave the same feeling but was more accepted and if done right safer.

This was all before i was a believer though, now i feel that there are alot of other support systems out there to turn to, namely God and his followers as i haven't met one yet who hasn't been happy to help me or talk to me

I still have two piercings and two tattoos, in some ways i feel ashamed that i still have them and why they are there, but in other ways it helps to remind me where i've come from and who i was and why i've left that part of me behind.

If anyone wants to talk to me your more than welcome, apparently i'm a good listener and i've helped a friend through a similar thing before

 

[rwc109]

I want to thank everyone for responding to my asking for help to understand what is behind this behavour that seems to be quite common but for many reasons....

But i see a commonality of the causes in that they all come from the 'self' ... i found in my own life that it was the attempt at denial of 'self' which led me into deep depression of finding no value in anything that I could acknowledge [and nothing but pills offered as a 'cure' by my society ,when what I needed was just someone to show me what Love was....

But thus I found and finally acnowledged that whilst I was not DOING LOve, yet it was the only thing that was left, right at the bottom of my being, when I could not even fibd a reason to move, no value in anything in the world...

Suddenly I just acknowledged that Love is thus my being , even though I was unable to do it then, that I valued Love above everuthing in the world , that it was thus my god...

And then I remembered how loving Jesus had been from the little i knew of scripture and so delved in to find out more and saw that he is talking about the God of Love too

But I was so confused because I thought that churches were the place to find the God of Love ... so I went, but my god was not there, only division and hypocrisy even pomp of people dressed up .clergy and 'congregation' pretending to be more holy and righteous than they are

So I went back to scripture an Lo and behold, found that Jesus came to save Israel first [Rev 7:1-8] but through Chrsist and them to redeem all mankind [Rev 7:9-10]

If then the scripture says that redemption is through Chriist and Israel it must also say when, and it does, after the second resurrection...

but that menas that not a lot but Christ and 144,000 of Israel are saved/redeemed until AFTER death

It just doesn't make sense then what the churches say

the churches are supposed to be based on scripture, but they teach another REDEMPTION than scripture, a false image of christ's role in REDEMPTION of all creation

its like the churches have tried to 'muscle in' on taking the prophesied role of redemptionaway from Israel and giving it to themselves [as if one could go against prophecy] ... but the Revelation of Jesus Christ himself says tha tribal Israel [excluding dan and Ephraim] ARE redeemed first and thus they are the priests who minister in the redemption of amnkind, not the preisthoods of christendom, who apparently , according to scripture ahve no role in redemption/salvation at all... [see Rev 7:1-10]

Israel is the royal priesthood of the new covenant WITH Israel [Jer 31:31-34]

1Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Thus one CAN get from the very PIT of deepest depression back to praising the god of Love with evry fibre of your being [as I do] but you won't get there by going to a church and swallowing a whole bucketload of traditions that fly in the face of scripture

This I think then might give hope to those who cut themselves as perhaps a crying out for help, and those who hate themselves enough or disrespect themselves enouggh or use their frustrations with the world, or whatever as a reason to escape into cutting , just to look in their own hearts and ask if they do not KNOW that Love is right [even if they cannot yet do Love] and thus praise god for putting that light of Love in us to get us back on the path toward actually being and doing that love as the very ultimate destiny of our being, what we really are....

many many thank to you all, as has been said, God sees every single human being as INVALUABLE, UNIQUE, thus we can value ourselves by means of the Loe that is somewhat unexpressed in many because of the world, yet even in the deepest of depths we can come to see it and acnowlledge it and thus live through it

Roger

 

[desper84unity]

Regarding cutting. I knew a person closely who was a type of SI. But after a ton of reading, I understood her's was only one manifestation of her overall struggle, which was BPD. Borderline Personality Disorder. It's a tough situation, people with that need lots of prayers from all of us, all the time.

However, another thing for those who want to help a relate better to a BPD person, is to genuinely offer SEP. SEP= Support, Empathy, Truth. I won't go into it anymore. If you decide to read up on it, there are recent good books. Avoid the books older than 10 years on BPD.

Pray constantly to be FILLED with the Holy Spirit, then live accordingly.