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What day of the week was the crucifixion?
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From what i read in scripture it appears to be on a Thursday because if you work back from him rising on a Sunday,(Matthew 28), the 3 days and 3 nights specified in Matthew 12:40, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." That would take you back to Thursday.
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This says that the spices were purchased when the sabbath was past (i.e. AFTER the sabbath):
[bible]Mark 16:1[/bible]
This says that the spices were prepared BEFORE the sabbath day according to the commandment (i.e. the fourth commandment--the weely sabbath):
[bible]Luke 23:56[/bible]
In order for the women to have purchased the spices AFTER the sabbath and prepared them BEFORE the weekly sabbath, there has to be two sabbaths within that same week with a regular non-sabbath day between the two sabbaths. In order for two sabbaths to exist within the same week, one of them must be an annual sabbath (sometimes called a high-day sabbath). During the week of Jesus' crucifixion, the annual sabbath was the passover sabbath--the first day of the feast of the unleavened bread.
Working backwards, we have
[bible]Mark 16:1[/bible]
This says that the spices were prepared BEFORE the sabbath day according to the commandment (i.e. the fourth commandment--the weely sabbath):
[bible]Luke 23:56[/bible]
In order for the women to have purchased the spices AFTER the sabbath and prepared them BEFORE the weekly sabbath, there has to be two sabbaths within that same week with a regular non-sabbath day between the two sabbaths. In order for two sabbaths to exist within the same week, one of them must be an annual sabbath (sometimes called a high-day sabbath). During the week of Jesus' crucifixion, the annual sabbath was the passover sabbath--the first day of the feast of the unleavened bread.
Working backwards, we have
- The weekly sabbath on Saturday
- The regular non-sabbath on Friday--this is when the women bought and prepared the spices
- The annual sabbath on Thursday (first day in the feast of the unleavened bread)
- Jesus' crucifixion on Wednesday--Jesus was crucified before the sabbath.
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tqpix said:
Not at all. Not according to the version you quoted. "They had bought sweet spices" and then went to anoint him. So they bought and prepared the spices on Friday afternoon, and go to anoint him on Sunday morning.
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http://www.uwm.edu/cgi-bin/corre/calendar?%2B28+%2B29+%2B30+%2B31+%2B32+%2B33+%2B34
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Ok, this did not print out in columns like it needed to. Go to this site and enter any year you like ( + for AD - for BC like + 32 etc. ). And 14,15 Nisan from 28 AD to 32 AD were on Mondays, Saturdays, or Tuesdays. Only in 30 AD was it on a Wednesday. It was not on a Friday any of those years.
Perpetual Jewish/Civil Calendar
Ok, this did not print out in columns like it needed to. Go to this site and enter any year you like ( + for AD - for BC like + 32 etc. ). And 14,15 Nisan from 28 AD to 32 AD were on Mondays, Saturdays, or Tuesdays. Only in 30 AD was it on a Wednesday. It was not on a Friday any of those years.
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Jesus died exactly on time according to the Scripture
He died at 3pm on Friday afternoon. We know that at
that time a lamb was meant to be sacrificed in the temple and
what does the scripture tell us ? The moment Jesus died the
Veil in the temple was torn in two and the priest who was about
to slay the lamb was so shocked he dropped the knife and the lamb ran away.
Jesus was slain instead of that lamb and from that point on
the sacrifices of lambs was in vain as Jesus was the Lamb that
died for our sins.
He died on Friday and rose on Sunday.
Why does it say that on the third day he will rise.
The moment that Jesus was seperated from His Father-he
considered himself as "in the portals of the tomb" he started
going through hell on Wednesday night in the Garden of Gethsemane
when He sweat drops of blood. What Agony!. It continued on Thursday
througgout his trial - being scrouged and spit and beaten etc..
Yes his death lasted three and a half days starting after lunch on Wednesday.
He said he would be in the heart of the earth did not mean he would be buried
underground. He was referring to being in hell. And Yes he did experiance hell for all of us so that we would not need to. If we accept Him as our Lord and Saviour we do not
have to go through the death that Jesus suffered, as it was a punishment for sin.
We will not be punished for our sins because Jesus already received the punishment - this is only valid for those who accept His sacrifice and accept Him as Saviour and Lord.
(after all in those days people were put in caves not buried under the ground)
He died at 3pm on Friday afternoon. We know that at
that time a lamb was meant to be sacrificed in the temple and
what does the scripture tell us ? The moment Jesus died the
Veil in the temple was torn in two and the priest who was about
to slay the lamb was so shocked he dropped the knife and the lamb ran away.
Jesus was slain instead of that lamb and from that point on
the sacrifices of lambs was in vain as Jesus was the Lamb that
died for our sins.
He died on Friday and rose on Sunday.
Why does it say that on the third day he will rise.
The moment that Jesus was seperated from His Father-he
considered himself as "in the portals of the tomb" he started
going through hell on Wednesday night in the Garden of Gethsemane
when He sweat drops of blood. What Agony!. It continued on Thursday
througgout his trial - being scrouged and spit and beaten etc..
Yes his death lasted three and a half days starting after lunch on Wednesday.
He said he would be in the heart of the earth did not mean he would be buried
underground. He was referring to being in hell. And Yes he did experiance hell for all of us so that we would not need to. If we accept Him as our Lord and Saviour we do not
have to go through the death that Jesus suffered, as it was a punishment for sin.
We will not be punished for our sins because Jesus already received the punishment - this is only valid for those who accept His sacrifice and accept Him as Saviour and Lord.
(after all in those days people were put in caves not buried under the ground)
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Matthew 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.
If this was the Sabbath, why not call it that? The day after Friday is the Sabbath. The next day, the Sabbath, ...
It's because it was Thursday 15 Nisan after the Preparation day 14 Nisan on which the Passover Lamb was slaughtered and PREPARED for the feast at sunset (which was the beginning of the day after the Preparation).
If this was the Sabbath, why not call it that? The day after Friday is the Sabbath. The next day, the Sabbath, ...
It's because it was Thursday 15 Nisan after the Preparation day 14 Nisan on which the Passover Lamb was slaughtered and PREPARED for the feast at sunset (which was the beginning of the day after the Preparation).
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We must be careful not to impose upon the text what we believe to be true. From the 27 AD to the year 33 AD 14 Nisan did not fall on a Friday (it did in 34 and 35 AD). But that throws off the Daniel 9 prophecy.
Thursday would "appear to" fit the mold best given a Sunday resurection.
BUT!
There is nothing in scripture that says he rose on Sunday, rather that the tomb was discovered empty on Sunday.
The prophecies (I'll have to consult my studies when time allows) speak of a time "Between the evenings" or at sunset.
3 days and 3 nights reach their full completion at sunset Saturday evening - Sunday twilight from a Wednesday crucifixion.
Thursday would "appear to" fit the mold best given a Sunday resurection.
BUT!
There is nothing in scripture that says he rose on Sunday, rather that the tomb was discovered empty on Sunday.
The prophecies (I'll have to consult my studies when time allows) speak of a time "Between the evenings" or at sunset.
3 days and 3 nights reach their full completion at sunset Saturday evening - Sunday twilight from a Wednesday crucifixion.
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johnd said:
You're joking, aren't you? That's exactly what you're doing. You've imposed upon the text calculations regarding the calendar, and also your opinion concerning what the Daniel 9 prophecy is about. Now, these may or may not be valid, but you're still introducing them into the interpretation of the gospel accounts.
Personally, I think it's fairly dangerous dating events according to the prophecy in Daniel 9.
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After reading these post this evening I had remebered that I had read somewhere recently about this.
I did some looking round and found it.
This is from "The best of Josh McDowwel A ready Defense"
Page 58-59
The dates that are used were quoted from H.W. Hoehner's "Chronological Aspects of the Life of Jesus"
Day of Christ's Crucifixion
Hoehner Demonstrated that the only logical day for Christ's crusifixion is Niasn 14,A.D. 33, or according to our calender, April 3 A.D. 33. See Chapters IV and V of Hoehner's "Chronological Aspects of the Life of Jesus"
The reat of it is way to complicated and long for me to post here. I would just reccomend that you get this book or the one by Hoehner, and read up on it.
I did some looking round and found it.
This is from "The best of Josh McDowwel A ready Defense"
Page 58-59
The dates that are used were quoted from H.W. Hoehner's "Chronological Aspects of the Life of Jesus"
Day of Christ's Crucifixion
Hoehner Demonstrated that the only logical day for Christ's crusifixion is Niasn 14,A.D. 33, or according to our calender, April 3 A.D. 33. See Chapters IV and V of Hoehner's "Chronological Aspects of the Life of Jesus"
The reat of it is way to complicated and long for me to post here. I would just reccomend that you get this book or the one by Hoehner, and read up on it.
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It says in Luke 23:56
"Then they returned and prepared spices and ointments. On the Sabbath day
they rested, according to the commandment."
If I got a child of 7 or 8 to read Luke 23 and 24 and ask them which day Jesus died and which day did he rise, I can guarantee you they would get it right.
"Then they returned and prepared spices and ointments. On the Sabbath day
they rested, according to the commandment."
If I got a child of 7 or 8 to read Luke 23 and 24 and ask them which day Jesus died and which day did he rise, I can guarantee you they would get it right.
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Jasie said:
I doubt that most 7 or 8 year olds would know what a Sabbath was unless it was taught to them. That's not something they just pick up. So, the question is when the Sabbath is taught to them, are all the sabbaths taught, or just some of them?
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In ancient Jewish and Greek writings, Wednesday was referred to as "the fourth day" while Friday was referred to as "Preparation Day" (Greek paraskeue). In fact modern Greek still uses paraskeue as the word for Friday.
Preparation Day (Friday - paraskeue) always preceded the Sabbath (Saturday).
Paraskeue is used six times in Scripture:
Matthew 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.
Mark 15:42 It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached,
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin.
John 19:14 (Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover, about noon). Pilate said to the Jewish leaders, "Look, here is your king!"
John 19:31 Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
John 19:42 Because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.
As can be seen, the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke are clear that the day of Preparation came before the Sabbath. The gospel of John adds that the Sabbath for this week was a special Sabbath - a day in which the regular Sabbath and Passover Sabbath were combined. In light of this usage of paraskeue, I hold to Friday as the crucifixion day.
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Preparation Day (Friday - paraskeue) always preceded the Sabbath (Saturday).
Paraskeue is used six times in Scripture:
Matthew 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.
Mark 15:42 It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). So as evening approached,
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin.
John 19:14 (Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover, about noon). Pilate said to the Jewish leaders, "Look, here is your king!"
John 19:31 Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
John 19:42 Because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.
As can be seen, the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke are clear that the day of Preparation came before the Sabbath. The gospel of John adds that the Sabbath for this week was a special Sabbath - a day in which the regular Sabbath and Passover Sabbath were combined. In light of this usage of paraskeue, I hold to Friday as the crucifixion day.
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If I an not mistake the jewish day actualy started @ sundown. Where as we today start our day @ 12:00 am more than likely a full 4-6 hours before we start. So what they would have considered Friday (preperation day) we would still call Thursday.
Someone correct me if I am wrong tho'
Someone correct me if I am wrong tho'
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The Jewish reckoning of time was different than Roman time. "Three days and three nights" could mean any part of three days and three nights. It does not mean three 24 hour days. Jesus was crucified on Friday and spent several hours Friday in the tomb, all day Saturday and part of Sunday morning. Clearly the "Day of Preparation was on Friday and He was crucified on the day of preparation.
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