No Ten Commandments before sinai
Amazing that the only law in the Ten Commandments that contains the "seal' of God is the sabbath commandment and it is the most controversial. We all can agree that lying stealing killing and committing adultery is against the laws. But not the one that God specifically ask "Remember".. When God mentions His "rest" it is always in context of the 7th day Sabbath, Friday night to Saturday night. From Genesis, just as soon as He was finished creation week, He "rested". In the commandments, He asked that His followers do the same and "rest" from their work.
The New Testament is about the new creation not the old creation.
Grace, forgiveness, reconciliation came through Jesus Christ, condemnation came from Moses and the law.
I think I see what you mean (?):
The Sabbath day is yearly; the New Moon is to determine the New Month, but the days are continuous - so the seven-day-counting is continuous until the next spring equinox.
Well, someone here is on the ball and you are correct. The Hebrew calendar was a lunar calendar ...
What was the Hebrew calendar?God’s calendar is luni-solar, which matches with Genesis 1:14. God appointed both the sun and moon “for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”
His holy days on specific days of the month, while at the same time, during [appointed seasons] in the year (Leviticus 23:4).
The Hebrew calendar has a 19-year time cycle made up of 12 common years (with 12 months) and 7 leap years (with 13 months).
The Bible, calendar and week are all part of the oracles committed to the Jews for all mankind.
-Astronomy observence
"There has been no change in our calendar in past centuries that has affected in any way the cycle of the week."—James Robertson, Director American Ephemeris, Navy Department, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C., March 12, 1932.
"The human race never lost the septenary [seven day] sequence of week days and that the Sabbath of these latter times comes down to us from Adam, though the ages, without a single lapse."—Dr. Totten, professor of astronomy at Yale University.
"Seven has been the ancient and honored number among the nations of the earth. They have measured their time by weeks from the beginning. The origin of this was the Sabbath of God, as Moses has given the reasons for it in his writings."—Dr. Lyman Coleman.
"By calculating the eclipses, it can be proven that no time has been lost and the creation days were seven, divided into 24 hours each."—Dr. Hinkley, The Watchman, July 1926 [Hinkley was a well-known astronomer].
"It can be said with assurance that not a day has been lost since Creation, and all the calendar changes notwithstanding, there has been no break in the weekly cycle."—Dr. Frank Jeffries, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and Research Director of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England.
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There is no question about which day
the seventh day of the week is.
The weekly cycle has not changed.
A contenious cycle of 7 days.
shall “think to change times and laws.”
Daniel 7:24-25 Lam 2:17, Rev 13-17
(2 Cor 11:14-15) (Revelation 12:9)
Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Soon man, the whole world will return
to the way God made it. Isaiah 66:23
Are you referring to the law of Moses or the law of Christ?yes, grace, forgiveness, reconciliation...when you break the law.
A way to tell time, given by God. TheWhat was the Hebrew calendar?
A pagan roman calendar,What was the Julian calendar?
To hide the true meaning of the Sabbath day, and ditch Gods Holy days, to implement there own time, and force there holidays worldwide.Why was the Gregorian calendar introduced?
And the church worshipped on Sunday from that time until the SDA came along. Regarding the commandment,
Great but I am part of the NT not the old. The OT was also not written to Christians.
Can you explain to me what luni-solar or lunisolar means?God’s calendar is luni-solar, which matches with Genesis 1:14. God appointed both the sun and moon “for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”
Can you explain to me what luni-solar or lunisolar means?
I call the Hebrew calendar a lunar calendar.
There seems to be some difference in opinion on whether the Hebrew calendar was a lunar or lunisolar calendar.
No, he didn't. Moses wrote that, according to tradition. The more likely case is that some Israelite priest gathered together stuff and wrote it. Possibly about the time that "the book of the law" was suddenly - conveniently - discovered in the temple.
That is what the story in Exodus says but the story does not say that Christians are to keep Saturday. There's no especially good reason to think that Saturday has anything whatever to do with the day that the Israelites are said to have received a double portion. That might have been on a Friday, or a Tuesday for all anyone knows. Sabbatarians like to pretend that the cycle of days is uninterrupted from creation to today yet even the scriptures tell of Joshua's long day which would displace days by some number of hours amounting to a significant part of a day if not a whole day. And there is no good evidence that the weekly cycle is the same today as it was when the Law was found in the temple. It is building one's doctrine on sand.
Go ahead and obey the law if you like and if feeling guilty for failing to keep it is a comfort then by all means feel guilty too, realising that it will do no good objectively speaking.
The truth is that it just does not matter if you keep Saturday rather than Sunday, except that Sunday is the day when the vast majority of Christians meet to pray and worship so if you decide against meeting on that day you'll need to seek out one of the small sabbatarian groups to meet with. What advantage is there in doing that? If Saturday keeping doesn't do a thing to justify and plays no role in salvation and failing to do so doesn't make Yahweh angry at you or risk his displeasure then it is just so much religious superstition that is fundamentally worthless.
Titus 2:11-14 does not mention keeping the Law; not even keeping the ten commandments. To live a godly life is to live following the example of Jesus. To help the needy, to feed the starving, to house the homeless, to do the things that Jesus praises in Matthew 25:31-46.
So you understand the difference in these three calendars, the Hebrew, the Julian, and the Gregorian calendar.A way to tell time, given by God. The
calendar was Part of the Oracles of God.
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in [the mount Sina], and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles [ to give unto us ] Acts 7:38
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way:chiefly, because that unto them were committed [the oracles of God]. Romans 3:2
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of [the oracles of God]; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12
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If any man speak, let him speak as [the oracles of God]; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 4:11
But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone,but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
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A pagan roman calendar,
that Jesus Christ did not follow.
To hide the true meaning of the Sabbath day, and ditch Gods Holy days, to implement there own time, and force there holidays worldwide.
A lunar month is different to a solar month.the Hebrew calendar which combines the lunar months and solar years to be completely synchronized—enabling God’s people to observe His holy days (as determined by the moon) in their proper seasons (as determined by the sun).
Genesis 1:14. God appointed both the sun and moon “for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”
All of this focus on the sabbath robs from this message...
And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. - 1 Corinthians 2:1-2
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. - Colossians 2
Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. - 1 Corinthians 16:1-2
This is about all the Apostle Paul said of the Sabbath Day. He did not condemn it or support it. The meeting of the church began on Sunday (known as the Lord's day) and has continued on that day ever since.
This is the most rediculous thing I ever seen here. The New Testament is not about the Old Creation? What is the Old Creation my friend?The New Testament is about the new creation not the old creation.
The new creation is all about believers in Jesus Christ not about believers in Moses.
Grace, forgiveness, reconciliation came through Jesus Christ, condemnation came from Moses and the law.
How many people died when the law was introduced?
How many people died when grace was introduced?
the sabbath day (saturday) is for jewish folks. the Lord's day (sunday) is for Christians.
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