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If you do not accept standard cosmological theory of our days, how can you want creationists to accept standard biological theory?
Standard cosmological theory - Big Bang - entails that our universe is 14 billion years old, i.e. has a beginning.He does accept it. You just don't understand, and misrepresent what standard cosmological theory entails.
I'm not upset with you.I am very sorry you are taking that position. I did not say you claimed to be a scientist, but to make fundamental pronouncements about science and it findings, while being ignorant of those findings is logically and ethically questionable.
Numerous statements in your posts clearly demonstrate that your knowledge of science is very limited and in many cases simply wrong. I regret you choose to ignore that. Self imposed ignorance is an unattractive thing.
I regret even more that you reject my offer to help educate you, if only to a small extent, on some of these matters, preferring to remain ignorant of them. You were happy to accept the link to information about Paley's Creationist apology, but turn away from anything that presents the other side of the argument. That is sad.
In the context of this thread one of the things that Creationists need to do to win against evolution is to open their eyes to the massive evidence for evolution, not close them firmly as you have done.
Oh. Changes...so many changes.Both times. The name change was merely a matter of a definition. It didn't change Pluto or what we know about it in any way.
Pray tell, why would I wish to explain spirit to you?It does not matter what one believes. It matters what one can support. I know that creationists do not like the fact that we are apes. The question is can they support that belief with valid arguments. Your questions about whether other animals can reason is a failed argument.
From your list other animals have the same abilities, only to a lesser degree.
And if Christians can define spirit why have you not done so? Circular definitions do not count.
Standard cosmological theory - Big Bang - entails that our universe is 14 billion years old, i.e. has a beginning.
The more you are trying to dance around it, the more its obvious you are trying to be more atheistic than scientific.
Yeah, there's lots of examples of "solutions" in those creationism stories. They usually involve one group of people completely slaughtering another "in the righteous name of the Lord". I suppose those "solutions" would definitely solve our overpopulation problem if taken to a global scale.
Except that I believe I have the correct answer.It is easier to believe that 223862 * 3949360 = 2. It would be wrong, but it is a lot easier than working out the correct answer.
Which God? There are so many of them.
Sure.That is Ray Comfort level ignorance. Sight evolved long before people existed. To propose that as a problem only tells us that you do not even have a middle school level of understanding of the concept. One cannot debate what one does not understand. And eye evolution is well understood.
Here is a serious suggestion. If you see a "problem" in evolution that is almost certainly only a problem with your understanding. Ask questions politely. No "gotcha questions" because you really do not understand this well enough to refute it yet. If you truly show that you want to learn others will help you.refute
Remember the lesson of Galileo. He was not trying to disprove God when he claimed that the Earth moved. Those that accept the theory of evolution are not trying to disprove God either. They merely want to understand our world better.
Which SCIENCE is much better equipped to deal with than bronze age myths, fables and tall tales.
Although, I guess, a global flood that wipes out all life on Earth except for an incestuous family and a few wandering animals COULD be considered a "solution" to all of humanities problems.
It is not necessary for me to "believe" anything. I accept that that is what the evidence says. There was a time in the history of our planet when terrestrial plants did not exist, as is indicated by the geological evidence.There was a time when gymnosperms did not exist. There was a time when angiosperms did not exist. I accept the evidence that trees (and all other terrestrial plants) are the products of biological evolution over the course of the past 450 million years.I know this is what you believe.
But how did a tree get to be a tree?
Which SCIENCE is much better equipped to deal with than bronze age myths, fables and tall tales.
Although, I guess, a global flood that wipes out all life on Earth except for an incestuous family and a few wandering animals COULD be considered a "solution" to all of humanities problems.
And how come there are so many variations of each TYPE of plant.....It is not necessary for me to "believe" anything. I accept that that is what the evidence says. There was a time in the history of our planet when terrestrial plants did not exist, as is indicated by the geological evidence.There was a time when gymnosperms did not exist. There was a time when angiosperms did not exist. I accept the evidence that trees (and all other terrestrial plants) are the products of biological evolution over the course of the past 450 million years.
I will correct your statement:The Big Bang only describes what has happened back to a certain point in time nearly 14 billion years ago, at which point our current knowledge of physics can no longer describe the state the universe was in. It was the beginning of the universe AS WE KNOW IT, not the beginning of everything.
You can "believe" anything you want. Personally, I like to believe that the pixies dancing in my garden are responsible for painting the colors on the beautiful flowers that come up every spring, but I don't try to force others into "believing" that, and I certainly don't try to pass it off as science.I may be very ignorant...
or I may just believe that someone/thing MADE IT.
how come there are so many variations of each TYPE of plant.....
and how did trees come into being?
Can you explain that in 25 words or less?
You can "believe" anything you want. Personally, I like to believe that the pixies dancing in my garden are responsible for painting the colors on the beautiful flowers that come up every spring, but I don't try to force others into "believing" that, and I certainly don't try to pass it off as science.
How about two words: Biological evolution.
Don't need to. The evidence, and scientific (human) conclusions about that evidence, is widely available in THOUSANDS of museums, universities, research laboratories, excavation sites, research hospitals, libraries, etc. in every country around the globe.And how come there are so many variations of each TYPE of plant.....
and how did trees come into being?
Can you explain that in 25 words or less?
You creationists don't know because you refuse to look at, and/or understand, the vast amount of evidence. Creationists prefer to take the easy route and merely accuse everyone else of being as willfully ignorant as they are.I don't think so because no one really knows.
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