Did god create him or herself? For a cause there must be an effect. Something can't come from nothing, right? I read somewhere that causality doesn't exist beyond the space, time and matter..but why not? What do you think?
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What created god?
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God is eternal-He has always been God. He was not created-He just is.....
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Another question.. where was He before he created the heavens and the earth? What was there? What was He doing when there was just a void and darkness?
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dede10, can you give me an explanation as to why God is eternal and has always been? i can't just believe something without proof..how do you do it?
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Eat your Wheaties and know your logical fallacies.
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See, I can't live with that. This question will plague me forever, and I'll never stop looking for an answer. I can't accept something without proof; it doesn't have to be logical proof either, because I know beyond the physical world not everything is of logic.
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OK, I think I figured it out. If God created time, then he couldn't of been created because that would've meant that somebody before him created him/her. And before would be time. That makes sense right?
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Holy Tapdancing Muhammed, would you calm down?
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the universe is material being. gas, planets stars this and that ****, God however, obviously, is not material... he is a consciousness that has always existed, what the hell is so hard to imagine? close your eyes, and imagine gravity doesn't exist. close your ears, don't breathe and don't touch anything for 5 seconds... not very hard to imagine that God has always existed...
you're saying an action requires time; and god "creating time" would be the ACTION-which-requires-time. however, not all actions require time. and especially when you're talking about God, he doesn't need "time" to create time. How can he create Time when he needs TIME TO CREATE TIME... it's stupid... he doesn't need time to create time.
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the universe is material being. gas, planets stars this and that ****, God however, obviously, is not material... he is a consciousness that has always existed, what the hell is so hard to imagine? close your eyes, and imagine gravity doesn't exist. close your ears, don't breathe and don't touch anything for 5 seconds... not very hard to imagine that God has always existed...
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What I'm trying to get at is time didn't excist before he made it in the physical world, because there was only NOW. God made the physical being which went forward in time, and created heaven for the end in time. I think god created time as a necessity for living things.
I don't really understand your second statement.
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Bugmotel, I never read the bible, and I don't plan on reading it, because I disagree with some of what it says. I don't believe in hell for instance.
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I think trying to figure out where God came from is futile. No one has come up with any sort of solid answer. God just is. He is self-existent.
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"he is a consciousness that has always existed"
There is no evidence to say the consciousness is anything more than the product of the highly complex mush called a brain, which is "material".
There is no evidence to say the consciousness is anything more than the product of the highly complex mush called a brain, which is "material".
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Nobody created God.. But rather he has always been, and always will be...Curious101 said:
No it can't.. Whihc is why God didn't come from nothing...Curious101 said:
This is both true and false. I'll anwser only on regards to god.. God is outside of time, so therefore to say that God is eternal is to say that he has always been.. before He created time there would be no such concept by which one would govern the passing of units of measurement.. Does that make more sense?Curious101 said:
So if I held you to that you could give me the evidence to support your claim? or what if I ask you to prove that the concept of morality could evole.. Could you do that?Western Deity said:
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God is the first to come up with "thinking outside the box." He is outside of time, space, etc. We only speak in terms of dimensions we understand. God is restricted by no such boundaries. Mcurious101 said:
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Well, I read all your replies and took what I could from them. I guess I'll have to have some blind faith on this one, because I could say if you don't need time to create time, then another being could've created god without time.
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So God was there before Time... how much before Time? A second or an eternity?
So before the universe, space and time, there was just God, nothing else. I guess He got bored and didn't even know how long He was bored for so he had to create time and a universe, so He'd have something to do?
Boy this is one confusing subject.
So before the universe, space and time, there was just God, nothing else. I guess He got bored and didn't even know how long He was bored for so he had to create time and a universe, so He'd have something to do?
Boy this is one confusing subject.
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God was the beginning of everything.
To ask, "Who created God" makes no sense. I think what it comes down to is that we have a hard time understanding what eternity is. Our minds can't comprehend something being eternal, because all we've ever known revolves around time.
To ask, "Who created God" makes no sense. I think what it comes down to is that we have a hard time understanding what eternity is. Our minds can't comprehend something being eternal, because all we've ever known revolves around time.
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God has been forever. What is a second before time began? What is eternity before time began? It has no meaning. If you believe in the bible, God has already said that we won't understand things now, but later we will.
Also, I don't think God could possibly get bored.
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