What Colour Lightsabre would you carry

[ChristianPoet05]

My own creation, a green outline, with a hint of orange specks here and there, all sparkling until it came into contact with something. hehe.

 

[Zeratul]

Double green preferably but also think orange is cool

 

[revelations12_12]

Mine would be RED, and it is too bad they do not have the armor symbol for imperial here.

 

[Abbadon]

McLeod Tartan.

Actually, hot pick would probably scare off more people where I live than the lightsaber itself.

'Course, a stick of dynamite does wonders...

use the LSs to suck up the lightning...

Were that possible, Luke would have done that, I think.

 

[revelations12_12]

McLeod Tartan.

Actually, hot pick would probably scare off more people where I live than the lightsaber itself.

'Course, a stick of dynamite does wonders...



Were that possible, Luke would have done that, I think.

hey abbadon do you know where the name abbadon stems from?

 

[Blackmarch]

McLeod Tartan.

Actually, hot pick would probably scare off more people where I live than the lightsaber itself.

'Course, a stick of dynamite does wonders...



Were that possible, Luke would have done that, I think.

That's what a jedi does in episode 2....

 

[Abbadon]

hey abbadon do you know where the name abbadon stems from?

Hebrew for "Destruction." He's an angel mentioned in revelation (chapter 9, verse 11, no less!), that God put in charge of Hell (not Lucifer or Satan).

(Lucifer means "lightbringer" and is a reference to the morning star, a symbol for many cults at the time Isaiah was written. Satan means "adversary" and was originally more of a prosecuting lawyer against humanity, but then the Zoroastrian Persians invaded, bringing the idea of dualism into Judaism, making Satan the devil. Eventually, the two got mixed up. Some have tried to place Abbadon with the two, but why would God give you a kingdom when you rebel?).

In the end times, Abbadon (more specifically, his followers, a bunch of weird locusts) cause a bunch of trouble for evil people.

That's what a jedi does in episode 2....

Oh. You're counting episode 2 in the Star Wars series. I was just counting classic.

 

[revelations12_12]

Hebrew for "Destruction." He's an angel mentioned in revelation (chapter 9, verse 11, no less!), that God put in charge of Hell (not Lucifer or Satan).

(Lucifer means "lightbringer" and is a reference to the morning star, a symbol for many cults at the time Isaiah was written. Satan means "adversary" and was originally more of a prosecuting lawyer against humanity, but then the Zoroastrian Persians invaded, bringing the idea of dualism into Judaism, making Satan the devil. Eventually, the two got mixed up. Some have tried to place Abbadon with the two, but why would God give you a kingdom when you rebel?).

In the end times, Abbadon (more specifically, his followers, a bunch of weird locusts) cause a bunch of trouble for evil people.



Oh. You're counting episode 2 in the Star Wars series. I was just counting classic.

So abbbadon is the ruler of hel not satan? What does Satan do then?

I found this small description,
Abbadon

Element/sin : insects

Name : The Destroyer / Appolyon

Shape : King of the cricket-demons

Rank : Head of the Sixth House of Hell, Demonic Ruler of the Abyss

Origin : Apocalypse, St Thomas. Abaddon is specifically mentioned five times in the Old Testament

Myths :He is one of the kings that has ruled over the nations of the earth. The scriptures indicate that he ruled over both Egypt and Sodom at some point in history, and will endeavour to rule over Jerusalem in the final days. Jerusalem will figuratively be called Sodom and Egypt at that time. At the end of times he is given the key to the abyss and releases these demon hordes on the people of the earth

 

[Abbadon]

Satan acts as a tempter.

That's not what I've read.

What site did you get that from? Wow, it seems neither side will have anything to do with Abbadon. Most of the Christian sites that were more focused on religion than mythology say he's a demon not to be trusted, all the anti-Christian sites I've seen say he's an angel of God that's not to be trusted. The sites I've seen that were going from a purely mythological stand point indicate that Abbadon is the angel that "takes out the trash."

The stuff about "Head of the Sixth House of Hell, Demonic Ruler of the Abyss" seems to be more medieval than biblical.

Do your sources list Astarte (Astoreth, other spellings) as male or female? This may clarify it.

 

[revelations12_12]

Astaroth

Aka : Ashtaroth, Astaroth

Element/sin : Goddess of lust, seduction; Demon of vanity and sloth; Sun/Moon

Shape : ugly angel, riding on a dragon and holding a viper in his left hand

Rank : Prince of Thrones; Lord Treasurer of Hell; Prince of accusers and inquisitors; Head of the 8th Order of Hell who commands forty legions

Origin : a Canaanite fertility goddess named Astarté or Ishtar

Magic : one of the 72 spirits of Solomon. He resides in the Occident (America), and has to be invoked on Wednesdays between the tenth and the eleventh hours of the night. He answers questions concerning the past and the future, procures the friendship of the great lords, and teach the liberal arts and most sciences. One can protect from the infernal stench emanating from him by holding a magic ring.

Association :

Source : The Goetia: The Lesser Key of Solomon the King; Grimoire of The Pope Honorius; Agrippa; Johann Wier’s Pseudomanarchia Daemonum; Barrett

Quote :

"He is a Mighty, Strong Duke, and appeareth in the Form of an hurtful Angel riding on an Infernal Beast like a Dragon, and carrying in his right hand a Viper. Thou must in no wise let him approach too near unto thee, lest he do thee damage by his Noisome Breath. Wherefore the Magician must hold the Magical Ring near his face, and that will defend him. He giveth true answers of things Past, Present, and to Come, and can discover all Secrets. He will declare wittingly how the Spirits fell, if desired, and the reason of his own fall. He can make men wonderfully knowing in all Liberal Sciences. He ruleth 40 Legions of Spirits."

Goetia

 

[Blackmarch]

Hebrew for "Destruction." He's an angel mentioned in revelation (chapter 9, verse 11, no less!), that God put in charge of Hell (not Lucifer or Satan).

(Lucifer means "lightbringer" and is a reference to the morning star, a symbol for many cults at the time Isaiah was written. Satan means "adversary" and was originally more of a prosecuting lawyer against humanity, but then the Zoroastrian Persians invaded, bringing the idea of dualism into Judaism, making Satan the devil. Eventually, the two got mixed up. Some have tried to place Abbadon with the two, but why would God give you a kingdom when you rebel?).

In the end times, Abbadon (more specifically, his followers, a bunch of weird locusts) cause a bunch of trouble for evil people.



Oh. You're counting episode 2 in the Star Wars series. I was just counting classic.

Ya that's kind what one was thinking about Luke the first time Episode 2 was watched;
"Hey why didn't luke do that?".. of course he had thrown away his lightsaber by the time he was getting electrocuted...

 

[revelations12_12]

http://demons.monstrous.com/demons_i.htm

this is where I got the info

 

[Abbadon]

I can't get to this site because of the firewall at the computer I'm using, but

www.geocities.com/diabolic_pixie/angeld.html

What I could read from the brief description Google gave me, I think they got their stuff from Gustav Davidson's A Dictionary of Angels (a personal favorite of mine).

I checked through the site real quick. They used the Goetia as one of their sources. I've read through that, and had to laugh at some of the stuff they did (they took some of the longer, more obscure geneological lists, like the descendents of Shem, and used some of those names, and also got some of the genders mixed up).

 

[revelations12_12]

Lucifer

Hebrew helel; Septuagint heosphoros, Vulgate lucifer, light-bearer

Names : The Latin name of Phosphorus, Venus as the morning star, the light bringer which heralds the dawn. Lucifer as a personification is called a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Aurora, or of Atlas. He is called the father of Ceyx, Daedalion, and of the Hesperides.

Element/sin : Venus, Pride

Shape : He is described as a handsome angel riding a white horse and his face is characterized by a bright gladness

Rank : Prince of Hell, ex-Seraphim, Governor of Earth with 90 legions

Origin : Canaantie or Phoenician myth about Helel, who is the son of the god Shahar. Greek

Myths : Lucifer came in the Middle Ages to be a common appellation of Satan. The star of Rev 9:1-11 is a fallen angel who has been given the key of the abyss, from which he sets loose upon the earth horribly formed locusts with scorpions' tails.

Magic : sustain good marital relations, raise storms, and advise about hidden and spiritual matters.

Association : Satan, the King of Babylon, served by Stanackia and Agalierap (Grimorium verum), Prometheus

Source : Enoch, Apocalypse, Dante, Luc, The Grimoire of Pope Honorius, Crowley,

Quote :

• The mind is its own place, and in itself
  Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
  What matter where, if I be still the same,
  And what I should be, all but less than he
  Whom Thunder hath made greater? Here at least
  We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
  Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
  Here we may reign secure, and in my choice
  To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
  Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
  
  Milton Paradise Lost
  

• "How art thou fallen from heaven
  O day-star, son of the morning! (Helel ben Shahar)
  How art thou cast down to the ground,
  That didst cast lots over the nations!
  And thou saidst in thy heart:
  'I will ascend into heaven,
  Above the stars of God (El)
  Will I exalt my throne;
  And I will sit upon the mount of meeting,
  In the uttermost parts of the north;
  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
  I will be like the Most High (Elyon).'
  Yet thou shalt be brought dow to the nether-world,
  To the uttermost parts of the pit."
  
  
  Isaiah 14:12-15
  

 

[revelations12_12]

looks like the sources for each demon seem to vary.

 

[revelations12_12]

I would use force push to knock Lucifer on his butt then I would whip out my red lightsaber and take care of him once and for all!! I want to Star wars 7 Vader vs. the demons!!

 

[Abbadon]

Also went through the site you gave me some more:

They list Baphomet as a demon related to Mithra, but as far as I've been able to gather, Baphomet was made up to persecute the Knights Templar. Eliphas Levi is listed as a source. I've read some of his stuff, which was a tad bit inaccurate. His "Goat of Mendes" design is a parody of a sigil developed by medieval Christians that hung around with a lot of Qaballists. (Let me see if I can post it...)

(The five points represent the five wounds of Christ, the Hebrew letters for YHWH are in there, with the Hebrew letter Shin stuck in the middle, forming Y-H-Sh-W-H, or Yehoshua, the historical name for Christ. This was supposed to be an arguement of Christ's divine nature).

 

[Abbadon]

Basically, my advice is to look around, and use multiple sites for stuff like Angelology. There are a lot of conflicting things out there. I recommend checking About.com, and using multiple sites from multiple search engines before becoming completely sure about this branch of the mythology.

 

[Abbadon]

I would use force push to knock Lucifer on his butt then I would whip out my red lightsaber and take care of him once and for all!! I want to Star wars 7 Vader vs. the demons!!

I've heard that the guy that acts Chewie had to sign a contract to do episode 3, and in the contract were clauses that he would have to act in episodes 7, 8, and 9, if they were made. If they bothered to put the clause in there mentioning the movies, I'm sure that they intend to make them.

 

[revelations12_12]

I've heard that the guy that acts Chewie had to sign a contract to do episode 3, and in the contract were clauses that he would have to act in episodes 7, 8, and 9, if they were made. If they bothered to put the clause in there mentioning the movies, I'm sure that they intend to make them.

Episode 6 Vador dies... No need for episode 7,8,9 who wants to see han acted by someone other than Harrison Ford, or watch Leah become a jedi, and marry Han