What Can I do About My Enemy?

[Vinter]

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[mama2one]

the ONLY choice is to move!

one of my siblings lives in an apt in another state
she had trouble with noisy neighbors, also
tried to solve with neighbor, next apt mgr, & then with police....nothing helped!

she did move & got an apt on top floor, on the end
she's getting sleep FINALLY!
she is paying more than last apt but says it's worth it

save $ until you can move

 

[Vinter]

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[BNR32FAN]

My mom has alot to deal with. The tenants that live above my mom have been harassing her for nearly four years now.

My mom talked with them about the noise they make and my mom tried to sort it out amicably. They refuse to accept the issue. My mom filed a complaint against them and that only made mattters worse they began downright harassing her, by making even more noise. I tried to talking to them and wind up calling the cops, so they are not easy to talk to. My mom has done everything she could, she has filed a complaint with the company that rents out the apartments. They don't want to do anything about it, because it's he said, she said situation. My mom say they make noise, they say they don't.

My mom escalated the case and filed a complaint with residents complaintt board wich is higher up in the Danish system and the highest place you can complain as a resident so it's pretty official. A meeting was said in place. It was the same thing over again, my mom say they make noise, they say they don't. The board can't or won't do anything because to them there is no evidence. It's he said, she said. Wich is the same as giving the tenants above my mom carte blanche to continue harassing her.

My mom have talked with the police several times and they say it's, not there juristiction because it's not tangible. So stomping in the floor day and night is not enough even though my mom never knows if she can sleep at night or relax in her own home.

This is a couple of years ago. My mom had an attempted break in when she was at the hospital. Even though there are surveillance cameras in front of the apartment building and inside by the stairs, the police said that no one came into the the stairs that did not belong. So by simple deduction it's someone that lives there, and yet the police closed the case. My mom's dog was home alone, thank God she was not hurt or stolen. But still my mom to this day does not leave her apartment unless there is one home to take care of her dog. So if she has a doctor's apointment or any other apointment, I am there taking care of her dog. When she is out walking her dog she does not care about the apartment because it's dead things. So it's all about the dogs safety for my mom.

My mom thought about moving. But why should my mom have an expense because these people don't know how to behave in a civil manner. My mom is not wealthy by any means and the rent she has is very affordable and all the other apartments that's up for rent are newer and therefore also cost alot more. In some cases 3 times as much as the apartment my mom has now.

They are still harassing my mom after nearly four years. She has come to the point where she is considering going to the media. But she does not know if that is the right thing to do. All she realy wants is to live a peaceful life.

I have prayed for vengeance.
Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.

My question is what more can I do to get rid of this enemy?

1 Timothy
1:18-20

18 Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well, 19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. 20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

Can I hand over my mom's bane and harraser to Satan?

Handing someone over to satan is a reference to excommunication from the church. It only applies to Christians. These people sound like they don’t qualify and your not in a position to have them excommunicated from any church. So that doesn’t apply to this situation. Best bet would be to take some videos so that you can have evidence of the noise and prove that your not the one making the noise and submit it as evidence. Also if this is occurring at night most cities have a noise ordinance typically between 9pm and 7am so if these noises are occurring between those times the police are certainly obligated to issue a warning and even a citation if the problem continues. The police DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE in the situation of noise ordinance. They either have to issue a warning or a citation they are not allowed by law to just dismiss the offense at their discretion.

 

[BNR32FAN]

There is that. But what made Paul give up praying for Hymenaeus and Alexander and hand them over to Satan? I guess at some point enough is enough.

Jesus also said
Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

I don't think the sword is for cutting fruit.

Politicians, police, the authority in my country is weak and unrightous.

I am the authority no one is above me but God. I will pick up that sword! I will be God's servant!

Romans 13:1-5
Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

A sword is definitely not the answer. The apostles carried swords for self defense not for dispatching noisy neighbors.

 

[com7fy8]

You can let her sleep in your apartment.

 

[dqhall]

My mom is more than happy to move, if it was possible. Health wise she can handle it, in fact I think her health will become better if she moves.

That's some rough stuff to go through. It's good you made it out allright. Sounds like you did okay in the end too. I pray the outcome will have a good ending for my mom. My mom is only 63 years, so she still have alot of years left, but it's draining her what she goes through. She has become quite old in recent times. My mom used to smile and laugh all the time. Now she is sad and many times incoherent when she talk, but sleep deprivation can cause alot of illness.



Thank you. At this point shaking the dust of the feet is the best option. I agree.

As another saying goes. "The more you stir dung up, the more it stinks."

It is time to get out of dodge. I keep praying for a way out.

Sometimes bad eating habits lead to bad brain health, same as sleep deprivation. Pollution also causes inflammation.

Many times I wanted to move from my current location, but am stuck here. I have family an hour or more to the south of me. My brother is having a cookout Saturday for six of us family members. My mom died of dementia last summer. Dad had a stroke and is in assisted living. I looked at lots for sale online again today, yet I stay.

 

[Mark Quayle]

I don't want to make any deal with the enemy. I just went with that part in the bible because if Paul could, then maybe it was okay for me to do that too.

There is a huge difference. For one thing, Paul was an apostle —you aren't, and don't have that authority; but also —well, let's look at the passage: "1It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. It was not a matter of Paul being harassed but of a person in the church who needed to be put out of the fellowship for his own good, and particularly for the good of the church. The same principle applies to the situation with Paul that you quote. Edit: I failed also to mention, Paul made no deal with Satan. Be careful what you take into your own hand to do.

 

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[JAM2b]

Could she move in with you?

 

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[Joined2krist]

I suggest you move over to her house while she moves into yours. As a younger person, you will be more understanding and tolerant of youthful excesses than your Mum

 

[Victor E.]

My mom has alot to deal with. The tenants that live above my mom have been harassing her for nearly four years now.

My mom talked with them about the noise they make and my mom tried to sort it out amicably. They refuse to accept the issue. My mom filed a complaint against them and that only made mattters worse they began downright harassing her, by making even more noise. I tried to talking to them and wind up calling the cops, so they are not easy to talk to. My mom has done everything she could, she has filed a complaint with the company that rents out the apartments. They don't want to do anything about it, because it's he said, she said situation. My mom say they make noise, they say they don't.

My mom escalated the case and filed a complaint with residents complaintt board wich is higher up in the Danish system and the highest place you can complain as a resident so it's pretty official. A meeting was said in place. It was the same thing over again, my mom say they make noise, they say they don't. The board can't or won't do anything because to them there is no evidence. It's he said, she said. Wich is the same as giving the tenants above my mom carte blanche to continue harassing her.

My mom have talked with the police several times and they say it's, not there juristiction because it's not tangible. So stomping in the floor day and night is not enough even though my mom never knows if she can sleep at night or relax in her own home.

This is a couple of years ago. My mom had an attempted break in when she was at the hospital. Even though there are surveillance cameras in front of the apartment building and inside by the stairs, the police said that no one came into the the stairs that did not belong. So by simple deduction it's someone that lives there, and yet the police closed the case. My mom's dog was home alone, thank God she was not hurt or stolen. But still my mom to this day does not leave her apartment unless there is one home to take care of her dog. So if she has a doctor's apointment or any other apointment, I am there taking care of her dog. When she is out walking her dog she does not care about the apartment because it's dead things. So it's all about the dogs safety for my mom.

My mom thought about moving. But why should my mom have an expense because these people don't know how to behave in a civil manner. My mom is not wealthy by any means and the rent she has is very affordable and all the other apartments that's up for rent are newer and therefore also cost alot more. In some cases 3 times as much as the apartment my mom has now.

They are still harassing my mom after nearly four years. She has come to the point where she is considering going to the media. But she does not know if that is the right thing to do. All she realy wants is to live a peaceful life.

I have prayed for vengeance.
Romans 12:19
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.

My question is what more can I do to get rid of this enemy?

1 Timothy
1:18-20

18 Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well, 19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith. 20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

Can I hand over my mom's bane and harraser to Satan?

Hmm, best thing I can recommend for your situation is to pray about it.. perhaps they will come to know Christ.

In my experience, we as believers hardly need to 'pray for vengeance'.. as one day God will avenge His Church in flaming fire upon Christ's return (2 Thessalonians 1:5-12).

Besides.. people's sin does follow them, even the hidden sin. It can trail after them to be revealed and judged later.

'Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.' (1 Timothy 5:24)

A persons sin, it has a way of finding them out.

The Word says not to be deceived, for God is not mocked.. a man will reap what he sows (Galatians 6:7-9).

So let us continue to do good.

I can understand the sentiments you share here but it's important to keep in mind that our war is not merely against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12)

Hope this helps.. again, I empathize with your situation.