What can be known about God?

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

devin553344 said:
There are discourses on the fruits of the holy spirit. They are on the internet. But a fruit of the spirit is love: Galatians 5:22-23. Although I would have to say love is a state of being, a fruit of his spirit, which is a thing not a person. So I think to be correct with the trinity, we must say God has love.

But scripture says God is love. At least the English translations i read do anyway. A fruit of the spirit is also truth. Jesus said He is the truth.

Not David · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
God is love. It seems that seeking to love is how to know God. Is there a theology for this?

What does it mean "God is love"?

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

David Cabrera said:
What does it mean "God is love"?

I dont know exactly.

devin553344 · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
But scripture says God is love. At least the English translations i read do anyway. A fruit of the spirit is also truth. Jesus said He is the truth.

I stand corrected. I searched my bible and to my surprise found: 1 John 4:8

Not David · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
I dont know exactly.

Then people are going to come with different definitions of love so it is not that simple.

devin553344 · Jan 9, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Then people are going to come with different definitions of love so it is not that simple.

Yes but if Love is a fruit of the spirit from God then God can template it for everyone the same way perhaps.

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Then people are going to come with different definitions of love so it is not that simple.

No, the bible teaches us about love.

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

This scripture came to mind,

Jeremiah 9:23 Thus says the Lord, “Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; 24 but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the Lord who exercises loving kindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things,” declares the Lord.

woobadooba · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
Yes but we have so much theology that people argue over. It never ends. Is that theology an accurate representation of the bible though?

That's a good question! It all depends on what "that theology" is.

PaulCyp1 · Jan 9, 2019

A great deal can be known about Him, though He is far beyond full understanding by humans. This is why He founded His ONE Church, said it was to remain ONE, and promised that ONE Church "The Holy Spirit will guide you into ALL truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon Earth is bound in Heaven", and "He who hears you hears Me". He wanted us to have one reliable, infallible source of truth about Him and His plan of salvation. He knew that if we tried to find the truth on our own, by reading the Bible or by any other method, we would end up fragmenting into thousands of conflicting denominations teaching thousands of conflicting and therefore false beliefs.

Halbhh · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
Thoughts?

In case it's not already quoted, here's how Christ answered that very question:

Luke 10:22 All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son, and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him."

And consider how He said more about getting closer to God --

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him.

This alone would already be reason enough to drop everything in one's free time and rush to hear and do Christ's commands, so that we might have this infinite treasure, a jewel beyond all measure.

StillGods · Jan 9, 2019

we can know His love in a real tangible way.

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

PaulCyp1 said:
A great deal can be known about Him, though He is far beyond full understanding by humans. This is why He founded His ONE Church, said it was to remain ONE, and promised that ONE Church "The Holy Spirit will guide you into ALL truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon Earth is bound in Heaven", and "He who hears you hears Me". He wanted us to have one reliable, infallible source of truth about Him and His plan of salvation. He knew that if we tried to find the truth on our own, by reading the Bible or by any other method, we would end up fragmenting into thousands of conflicting denominations teaching thousands of conflicting and therefore false beliefs.

Oh boy, not the one true church nonsense again.

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

In have news for you. I found Jesus without catholicism.

Blade · Jan 9, 2019

"At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

So... I can say.. me and my wife are one....she can talk for me.. I can for her.. GRANTED she is Chinese and I am not..so..if you see her you wont see me lol. Now.. when CHRIST says it.. its not just words... we are IN HIM.. HE IN US...we are ONE..."But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

So...just what is it you want to know? Ask Him. He is IN YOU. Dwell on it.. think pray.. HE IS IN YOU! He told you "His sheep" hear His voice yes? Did He just say words that have no meaning? Every word He says.. has a purpose .. means something. Every thing He says cant come back to Him void. None of His words fall to the ground....

He can say ONE WORD and expand it forever.. its NOT what any man says.. its what HE said in HIS word.. so. .ask...you have no clue.. NONE as to how much HE loves you..."For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.....ALL glory all praise to you FATHER!

ToServe · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
Thoughts?

Thrives on a challenge.

Plays along to make the enemy think they have won, only to snatch victory from underneath the nose of his enemy towards the end.

Purpose driven prophesy way markers as indication of the multitude of battles being fought and won.

Sometimes deliberately plays a hand to loose, so to invigorate the enemy to think he has a winning chance.

Looses battles deliberately to swing it 180 degrees towards the end where it counts.

Loves to demoralise the enemy to the point of self defeat and self retirement.

Believe me when I say that Satan is the most demoralized enemy of God who has self defeat written all over his face. Satan wants out and the final script to the saga is where Satan is compelled to do what he needs to do to get out of his nightmare, rather what he needs to do to prolong his stance against God.

Satan no longer wants to play ball with God and he wants closure.

Having said that, now who wants to play ball against God ?

Do you really want to know God more than Satan does?

Not wise to do so.

Stick with knowing his love through his Son Jesus Christ.

zoidar · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
Thoughts?

1. That God is love
2. That God is just
3. That God loves every man with so much love that He was willing to die for us

That...
4. God is not in a hurry
5. God hears prayers
6. God hates evil
7. God loves righteousness
8. God knows everything
9. Man is an image of God
10. God saves
11. God rather saves than condemns
12. God is holy
13. God is the highest One
14. God never sleeps
15. God is mercyful
16. God takes care of his sheep
17. God has a plan
18. God never leaves you
19. God is without darkness
20. God wants to have a relationship with man

Johnny4ChristJesus · Jan 9, 2019

W2L said:
Yes but we have so much theology that people argue over. It never ends. Is that theology an accurate representation of the bible though?

Yes, there is plenty of theology that contradicts other theology. The only theology that would be correct is the theology that is Truth (from God's perspective). But, in this world, due to issues other than the Scriptures, there are a variety of opinions about who has that correct theology. The thing is, write or wrong, everybody has theology--even if that theology is that God doesn't exist, it is still theology (albeit limited and wrong).

All that to say that just because people can't agree on which theology is Truth, doesn't negate the value or cost of theology. How and what we think about God matters, as I mentioned before. As an example, if your theology makes you think God doesn't heal today, you might miss out on your healing or cost someone else their healing by selling them your wrong theology. If your theology suggests that God isn't active today in people's lives, then you have to make things happen, because you can't really trust God to. And so on.

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

Thanks everyone. I believe in simplicity. I guess thats my theology. What joy we have, and freedom. My heart rejoices.

(random worship song that i love.)

W2L · Jan 9, 2019

zoidar said:
1. That God is love
2. That God is just
3. That God loves every man with so much love that He was willing to die for us

That...
4. God is not in a hurry
5. God hears prayers
6. God hates evil
7. God loves righteousness
8. God knows everything
9. Man is an image of God
10. God saves
11. God rather saves than condemns
12. God is holy
13. God is the highest One
14. God never sleeps
15. God is mercyful
16. God takes care of his sheep
17. God has a plan
18. God never leaves you
19. God is without darkness
20. God wants to have a relationship with man

Nice list. Praise the Lord. Thank you.

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