Hello Cody, I read your message, and I visited the website that you referenced (for everyone else, the address is
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/ESV_Foundation.html). Because you posted to my CF page, which is publically viewable, I assume that you don't mind if I respond to you on this thread. If you would prefer to continue this discussion via PMs, just let me know.
First, I would like to call to your attention a problem with this page. It quotes the following out of the ESV preface:
Would you believe it took nearly 500 years to translate the ESV Bible?
Thats because the ESV builds on the great translations of the pastincluding William Tyndales New Testament of 1526 and the King James Version (KJV) of 1611.
(Preface, ESV)
I just skimmed the preface of my ESV, and I can't find this passage of text. It would appear that the authors of this website are misrepresenting the ESV translators. This is common among people who preach heresy. Deception and outright lying are very common among those who are not committed to the truth. Now I am not saying that you are here to intentionally deceive anyone or that you have any malicious intent. On the contrary, you like many other KJV-onlyists I've met on this forum seem to have completely pure motives. But I say this to warn you as a concerned friend that KJV-onlyism is usually supported by irrational arguments, and this necessitates deception on the part of its stronger proponents. I only ask that you read KJV-only materials with a critical eye, and that you base your conclusions on logical interpretation of Scripture. Remember that Scripture will never teach any doctrine that is irrational, because this would be outside of God's character.
Now onto the rest of this web page. Though I intended for my previous post to be jocular in nature, I did have a salient point which I hope was clear. My point is that KJV-onlyism is a purely arbitrary doctrine. This doctrine asserts that the KJV is the only inspired Bible, but it doesn't base this belief on anything. I could just as well say that the ESV Bible is the only inspired Bible.
The author of this page forcefully states that there are no autographs of the Bible (i.e. documents penned by the inspired writers of Scripture). Indeed, this is true of every ancient text of the Bible's age. By God's providence the Bible has been preserved better than any other ancient document of its age. Nonetheless, no one here would assert that we have original texts penned by the apostles or prophets. The ESV, and other modern Bibles, are translated based on manuscript copies which are not as old as the original documents. Many of the ancient New Testament manuscripts date back to times between 200 and 500 AD, and most are far newer.
But here's the problem: the King James Version suffers from the same inadequacy. It was translated from the Textus Receptus, which was compiled from several Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. These manuscripts are also "copies of copies," as the author of the web page would say. So we need to ask whether or not there is a compelling reason to believe that the KJV is any more faithful to the original Biblical texts than modern translations. The reason supplied by KJV-onlyists is the notion of special inspiration. KJV-onlyists believe that God specially inspired the translation of the KJV so that it would be perfectly faithful to the original manuscripts. No one on the Baptist forum would deny that God, who calls into existence the things that do not exist, is fully capable of doing such a deed. His omnipotence is not at issue here, but whether or not he really has specially inspired the KJV translation. It says,
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)
Therefore we are not compelled to believe the testimony of the KJV-onlyists at face value. Their doctrine has to agree with Scripture. Indeed, the KJV-onlyists have cited Scripture to defend their doctrine. Curiously they cited Matthew 24:35, which I also cited in jest to defend the special inspiration of the ESV. Therein lies the problem. There are many verses in Scripture in which God has promised to preserve his word, and KJV-onlyists cite these in order to suggest that the KJV is the fulfillment of God's promise. But all of those verses are also in my ESV Bible. So why is my claim to special inspiration of the ESV any less valid than the KJV-onlyist claim?
The only advantage a KJV-onlyist would have over an ESV-onlyist is that the KJV translators have all died and are now at Abraham's side, whereas the ESV translator are still here in this world running their race. We can inquire of the latter, and they can audibly deny special inspiration of the ESV. Maybe in forty years ESV-onlyism might become a more plausible doctrine. Indeed, I cited an eight year old translation in order to demonstrate the absurdity of claiming that any individual translation is specially inspired by God.
Anyway Cody, I know what the website says, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this matter. I hope that we can have a fruitful discussion and seek the truth, as the truth is in the face of Jesus Christ.