• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

what are your views on forced apologizing?

Redguard

Make It So, Number One!
Oct 20, 2004
12,268
1,927
Toronto, Canada
Visit site
✟43,960.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Liberals
I don't want her thinking that she can get away with bad behaviour without SOME kind of reprimand.

That being said, yes, I'll force an apology. And if it doesn't come out sounding heartfelt, then she'll have to say it again until it at least sounds like she means it. :)

I'm big on manners and etiquette. I expect to hear "please", "thank you", and an apology when I've been wronged. Like gengwall's wife, I also tend to apologize a bit too much... which annoys Mrs. Redguard to no end (she, who refuses to apologize even if you put a gun to her head :D)

We live in a society where the rude are trampling all over those who still have the courtesy of being polite and remembering when to show a bit of manners in public.

My goal in forcing apologies is to let her know that there are values in this world that still mean something. Even if forcing yourself as a child brings you to have a hard heart towards the person you're apologizing to, I think it'll make sense one day why it's important.

I've gotten myself many freebies by being polite to store owners or Customer Service Reps.
 
Upvote 0
Oct 29, 2006
2,361
193
✟25,867.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
well, my daughter loved that veggie tales movie "God wants me to forgive them?" so that helped her understand the concept of sorry.
I do ask her to say sorry when she's done something wrong - even if it's by accident. I don't force her, but I explain the wrong then ask her to please apologise.

Jgonz, I love what you said about needing to be friends with your family first. That is a huge principle in our family but you stated it very well in a way that really spoke to me.
 
Upvote 0

katelyn

Senior Veteran
Oct 6, 2003
2,309
105
43
✟25,445.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
We resolve whatever the issue is first, then an apology is suggested but not required. In the case of hitting, Natalie does have to tell me she won't hurt anyone again (in other words, acknowledge that her behavior was wrong and agree to stop it!) before she is allowed to go play. She will usually, but not always, say sorry when I suggest it.

But then, I don't force please/thank you either. Modeling seems to be more effective than forcing IMO.
 
Upvote 0

Christdefinesme

Well-Known Member
Sep 21, 2005
1,028
84
54
Chicago, Illinois
Visit site
✟24,060.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Well, we don't "force" an apology, our kids can choose to apologize/forgive, or, fall out of fellowship with their friends/family (alone for a while in room) until they choose to admit wrongdoing ;). We don't just require it from our kids, we require it from us, too.:) PRIDE is such a constant in the human nature, and can really do damage to relationships, and to our own spiritual life. I feel it's really important to keep the pride exposed, and little reminders like apoligies/forgiveness helps in this area.
I believe and have seen that it is INCREDIBLY important for kids to learn early to humble themselves, and admit wrongdoing, as well as to humble themselves and offer forgiveness to eachother as quickly as possible. Usually, I have found, since it is required, it is also usually genuine (which may not make sense, but it's true), usually, if you act "right" your heart follows:thumbsup:. It is a habit in our house, and I know that as adults, my kids will have much healthier, fulfilling relationships with others as they continue to act humbly toward others.
Apologizing/acting humbly toward others heals relationships and keeps bonds strong with others. Also, my kids are less likely to repeat behavior if they have had to go through the humbling process of admitting wrongdoing/offering forgiveness.
This is a constant in our house and I wouldn't change a thing!:clap:
 
Upvote 0

OrangeHope

Contributor
Sep 25, 2005
5,598
646
40
the holy land of Israel
✟31,082.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Libertarian
I forgot to say in my original post that not only do I make my kids apologize, I make the one who got hurt/offended/whatever say "I forgive you" as well. And if Either of them aren't honestly sorry or forgiving, then I'll say something to the effect that they better Really be sorry/forgiving or they're both going to be in trouble. lol They have to say their sorry like they mean it. No one is allowed to get away with any snotty talk.

I agree, I think it's important kids know why they need to say sorry, make them realize they have hurt some one and make them understand that hurt never feels good. I do think they should get in trouble/punished if they won't say sorry cause they don't mean it, I believe this teaches them skills for later on to be considering to other and know when you need to say sorry and ask for forgiveness.
 
Upvote 0

Caffeinated

Senior Member
Jan 26, 2008
859
190
✟24,447.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I don't want her thinking that she can get away with bad behaviour without SOME kind of reprimand.

That being said, yes, I'll force an apology. And if it doesn't come out sounding heartfelt, then she'll have to say it again until it at least sounds like she means it. :)

I'm big on manners and etiquette. I expect to hear "please", "thank you", and an apology when I've been wronged. Like gengwall's wife, I also tend to apologize a bit too much... which annoys Mrs. Redguard to no end (she, who refuses to apologize even if you put a gun to her head :D)

We live in a society where the rude are trampling all over those who still have the courtesy of being polite and remembering when to show a bit of manners in public.

My goal in forcing apologies is to let her know that there are values in this world that still mean something. Even if forcing yourself as a child brings you to have a hard heart towards the person you're apologizing to, I think it'll make sense one day why it's important.

I've gotten myself many freebies by being polite to store owners or Customer Service Reps.
I fully agree. :)
I just feel like an apology is part of having basic manners.

I apologize to my kids and I expect them to apologize when they've done something wrong.
 
Upvote 0