What are your views on binge drinking?

[Paradoxum]

Basically, I think it's idiotic because people do, in my opinion, completely stupid things to themselves with drinking like that.

People don't always do stupid things when drunk (or very drunk) though.

Lets say, someone accepts that they might do something stupid when drunk, but still choose to get drunk. Can you say that that choice is stupid? I don't think you can. They understand the choice their making, and there's no purely intellectual reason not to make that decision.

By the way, I totally understand you not wanting to do it, but I'd say that's more about values than cleverness.

It doesn't matter that I think it's stupid, people can still go do it. I just think it is. I don't see how someone could be proud of puking until blood comes up, or of peeing all over a couch because they literally lacked the muscle control or awareness to get to the bathroom.

Those two scenarios I have personally heard multiple people bragging about, by the way. Whether it happened or not, it's stupid to me to be proud of that.

Yeah, I don't get people being proud of being that messed up. I suppose you could say it's somewhat stupid if they haven't considered the problems beforehand.

By the way, I assume binge drinking meant just getting very drunk... not puking blood... which I think is beyond how far I've gone.

No one gets hurt if I think what they do is stupid. A lot of people probably think what I do is stupid. That's cool.

Sure, I was just questioning why you thought that.

 

[Blessedj01]

There is a certain group of people that 'enjoy' being messed up and all that comes with it.

 

[Cearbhall]

Hello,
For a project for Year 10 Christian Life I have to document some of the opinions/views of Christians and others on the topic of binge drinking.

It would really help me if you wrote your opinions in a reply

I don't understand the logic of binge drinking. It tends to happen when people have sporadic access to alcohol (underage college kids who only get it at parties, Native Americans who can't bring it onto their reservations, etc.), but I don't understand what they get out of drinking way too much in one night and making themselves sick. I can't imagine that it makes the other days any more enjoyable or makes up for the lack of alcohol.

 

[KitKatMatt]

People don't always do stupid things when drunk (or very drunk) though.

Lets say, someone accepts that they might do something stupid when drunk, but still choose to get drunk. Can you say that that choice is stupid? I don't think you can. They understand the choice their making, and there's no purely intellectual reason not to make that decision.

By the way, I totally understand you not wanting to do it, but I'd say that's more about values than cleverness.



Yeah, I don't get people being proud of being that messed up. I suppose you could say it's somewhat stupid if they haven't considered the problems beforehand.

By the way, I assume binge drinking meant just getting very drunk... not puking blood... which I think is beyond how far I've gone.



Sure, I was just questioning why you thought that.

I assume someone accepts the risks of what they're doing before they do it. I know that's not always the case, but I assume that if they do it of their own free will.

I know not everyone who gets drunk does stupid stuff. The thing is, I only know of two people off the top of my head that drink without the goal of getting completely plastered. I know of more than I can count who do otherwise, so maybe I'm a bit biased.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I get that it's unhealthy (so self-destructive), but why is it stupid? And in regards to hurting people... hurting people is bad, and you can hurt people whether sober of drunk. Many people get drunk, but don't hurt others.

Why don't you respect them? If someone isn't hurting others, what's you're issue with them?

Why should I respect people who choose behaviors that damage their bodies knowing that is a risk? I don't respect smoking in general either, because both are unnecessary, expensive, self-destructive habits with 0 benefits and many long term negative consequences. Both can kill you, and most people who have these behaviors know the risks but choose to do it anyways. Would you respect someone who tries to cross streets like Frogger for fun on a regular basis?

 

[Blessedj01]

It's their choice. We all have poor behaviors. People deserve respect for being fellow humans. Doesn't mean you have to join in. Running across the street isn't really the same thing. Also not everyone gets or is bothered by sickness or hangovers. Not saying binging is good, but no need to judge. It's legal and you can discourage the practice without putting people down.

 

[protonbunny]

I think it's wrong, but they should be treated like everyone else.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Totally idiotic and stupid.

I'd say that it is potentially imprudent, and whether it is prudent or not depends on one's understanding of one's best interests and how they may play out in the future.

Whenever I had gotten sitting-down-and-laughing drunk (not that many times in my life, fortunately), it may have been unpleasant the next day, but there were never any lasting bad consequences. But then I did handle those situations prudently from the start, such as making sure I did not need to drive anywhere.

These days, I definitely prefer only to drink to socialize and get a buzz, and no further. This is more of a matter of taste than of prudence, since I'd simply prefer to wake up the next day happy.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's their choice. We all have poor behaviors. People deserve respect for being fellow humans. Doesn't mean you have to join in. Running across the street isn't really the same thing. Also not everyone gets or is bothered by sickness or hangovers. Not saying binging is good, but no need to judge. It's legal and you can discourage the practice without putting people down.

I guarantee there is at least one thing people do that is perfectly legal that you don't respect people for. Whether it is something like having sex with everything they can get away with, or something as minor as clicking their pen while listening to a lecture. I have every right to not respect people based on their actions, tolerance is not the same as agreement.

 

[Jonathan Jarvis]

Moderation in drinking has its virtues; but I've found that 5 cans on a Friday following a dry week is better than a single can each night.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Moderation in drinking has its virtues; but I've found that 5 cans on a Friday following a dry week is better than a single can each night.

Yes, that's true. That still seems like moderation to me, though.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bhsmte]

Moderation in drinking has its virtues; but I've found that 5 cans on a Friday following a dry week is better than a single can each night.

Better in what way?

 

[Blessedj01]

I guarantee there is at least one thing people do that is perfectly legal that you don't respect people for. Whether it is something like having sex with everything they can get away with, or something as minor as clicking their pen while listening to a lecture. I have every right to not respect people based on their actions, tolerance is not the same as agreement.

perhaps, but i try to simply disrespect the action, not the person. there are people i avoid if i an uncomfortable with their behaviors. and people i dont like based on the wider picture of who they are or what they do or say. i wouldnt cast my judgement based solely on thier private habits unless they affected me in some way. in these discussions where people are frank about thier habits its not always helpful to say that you dont respect people.

perhaps in private, to yourself you could hold those opinions but im not sure why you'd need to share them here. you're welcome to think what you like, just be careful that your judgements dont prejudice you against an entire character on behalf of one behavior. you're right that tolerance is not agreement, but that doesnt require disrespecting people.

another problem is that you can move from seeing johnny have a drink regularly to assuming johnny is harming himself and others when he may not be and jump to completely disrespecting johnny even though he's just exercising his prerogative to visit the pub. we all have a different idea on these issues.

 

[keith99]

Yes, that's true. That still seems like moderation to me, though.


eudaimonia,

Mark

But it is 5 at once, officially binge drinking.

 

[Inkachu]

Is there anyone who would actually promote binge drinking? I'm just curious as to why the OP would even ask such a question. It's not like anyone's going to say "It's a wonderful and constructive use of one's spare time" lol.

 

[Blessedj01]

But it is 5 at once, officially binge drinking.

really? surprising.

 

[Blessedj01]

Is there anyone who would actually promote binge drinking? I'm just curious as to why the OP would even ask such a question. It's not like anyone's going to say "It's a wonderful and constructive use of one's spare time" lol.

lol

 

[Paradoxum]

I assume someone accepts the risks of what they're doing before they do it. I know that's not always the case, but I assume that if they do it of their own free will.

I know not everyone who gets drunk does stupid stuff. The thing is, I only know of two people off the top of my head that drink without the goal of getting completely plastered. I know of more than I can count who do otherwise, so maybe I'm a bit biased.

I sometimes purposely get drunk, I just see no problem with it. Not hurting anyone. I don't see why other people would have an issue.

Why should I respect people who choose behaviors that damage their bodies knowing that is a risk?

Because it's their body, so there's no reason for you to judge? If they accept the risk, on what basis are you judging them?

I don't respect smoking in general either, because both are unnecessary, expensive, self-destructive habits with 0 benefits and many long term negative consequences. Both can kill you, and most people who have these behaviors know the risks but choose to do it anyways.

But why do those things mean you don't respect them? You're position doesn't make any sense, or follow in any way.

If someone values a life, which includes drinking and smoking, more than a life without it (knowing the pros and cons), on what basis can you judge them?

Do you think they SHOULD value the opposite? I don't know how you could claim that. There's no objective reason to value one way or another.

Would you respect someone who tries to cross streets like Frogger for fun on a regular basis?

That's not the same. That messes with other people, is more likely to lead to a MUCH shorter life instantly.

But I suppose if someone did really risky things, like wrestle crocodiles, or swim with deadly stingrays (Steve Irwin), I'd respect that.

 

[JustMeSee]

Hello,
For a project for Year 10 Christian Life I have to document some of the opinions/views of Christians and others on the topic of binge drinking.

It would really help me if you wrote your opinions in a reply

Thanks
TheImpossibleGirl

Rather pointless, self destructive, dangerous, and apparently fun at youthful parties.

I no longer drink, but I have a few blackout incidents in my past. I find it much more pleasurable for all to drink in moderation at parties.

 

[bill5]

It's awesome!!!


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