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I never said that I have never done wrong. I'm only human and don't claim perfection. But sin doesn't exist. It's just an idea thrown around to control people like you. Hell isn't real, but it's a great way to control the simple minded-like you.
How about you actually do something to prove your religion (hateful as it is) to be true. Then you can go and preach your hellfire, brimestone, Chicken Little (the sky is falling) style of Christianity.
In short, you needto overcome your addiction. Why do you follow a monster. You god sounds like other Christian's Satan.
I don't expect to be found innocent. I don't have a problem with the idea of God judging me for my sins.
People see aliens every day too. So what? That doesn't mean aliens exsist outside of their imagination.
Some people see fairies, leprechauns, and elves too? Do thoes innately exsist because someone claims it?
Homer claimed that cyclopses, griffins, and mermaids exsist. Should I just take his word for it?
Sin is a subjective term that relys on the exsistence of god in order to be true. Good luck establishing that in a realistic way.
Chris.. Your argument isn't going to work here. As non-Christians we all have different ideas of 'sin' and all of that. You can tell us all day long what the Bible says and it isn't going to make a bit of difference. If we believed in the Bible we would be Christians, and there would be no need for this conversation. Since I do not believe the Bible is the word of God, you quoting it to me and telling me the ideas it puts forth is pretty much a waste of time.
Furthermore, all this thread does is remind me why I am no longer Christian. What a horribly negative world view.
Everything is created.How can you tell the difference between something that is created and something that is uncreated?
Prove it. Prove that there is no CHAOS in the universe. Preferably without quoting any Bible verses.Everything is created.
Well you had better. You are going to be found guilty, and you are going to go to hell. That's not exactly something you should just be blowing off.
Neither you, nor any other Christian, has ever shown me any evidence at all that the non-Christian religion I currently belong to is not a brand new Revelation from God. Why, then, would I want to give it up?
It's easy enough for you to say that, but can you show me evidence that God agrees with you instead of with the teachings of my non-Christian religion?Because your god doesn't exist.
The Bible says a lot of things besides that.You must follow what the Bible says. You must repent and turn to Jesus Christ as your substitute for sin. If you don't do that, you are not saved.
You assume your conclusion in the premise. You assume that everyone has a sin problem.BigChrisFilm said:What are you going to do about your sin problem? You are guilty, how will you be found innocent?
Do not expect the above to mean anything less that utter rubbish to Non-Christians. If you disbelieve in God, then proclamations that you are in sin is wholly meaningless.BigChrisFilm said:Doesn't matter. Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't make you any less guilty.
This assumes that this particular person does wrong and continues to do so.BigChrisFilm said:The fact you do wrong, know it, and continue to do it anyway should tell you how evil our hearts are.
Consider this.BigChrisFilm said:It doesn't matter if you believe in God. If I don't believe in trucks, and I walk out onto a highway, I will be killed by a truck even though I didn't believe in them. Same with God. You will die, and stand before him, with nothing to say for yourself except, I am sorry.
But as expressed above, this is meaningless to Atheists.BigChrisFilm said:But are you sorry you did what you did, or because you got caught? That will be up to him, and he already told us what will happen to you on judgment day.
God would already know that you did not believe in him. God would have always known. It should come as no surprise to an omniscient deity that Person X who he allowed to exist did not believe in him.BigChrisFilm said:He will be GREATLY offended if you tell him you didn't even believe in him at all.
Only if 'good' is reduced to an arbitrary term defined by God's own decisions.BigChrisFilm said:Your post makes no sense. Hell can be eternal, and God be omniscent, omniptent, and omnibenevolent all at the same time.
If God does not exist, then I am infinitely more right than God. Under my world view, I am infinitely more correct over God.BigChrisFilm said:A God that does not punish the guilty is no just. He is not good. It doesn't matter if you agree with God on eternal punishment. Who is right, you or God? I know who I got my money on.
The creation of a particular object certainly provides tantalising evidence that there indeed was a designer. However, whether by 'creation' here - you are referring to the entire universe, there is no reason to suppose that it is a creation much less a creation of a specific being.BigChrisFilm said:Creation proves there was a creator.
You must follow what the Qu'ran says. You must recite the Shahada and become a Muslin. If you don't do that, you will be destined for the hellfire.BigChrisFilm said:Because your god doesn't exist. You must follow what the Bible says. You must repent and turn to Jesus Christ as your substitute for sin. If you don't do that, you are not saved.
Arrogance comes when you put yourself in the position of judgment of what you consider the ultimate being. If God exists, you certainly do not speak for him and I would imagine he is embarrassed to have you attempting to be his spokesperson.BigChrisFilm said:Well you had better. You are going to be found guilty, and you are going to go to hell. That's not exactly something you should just be blowing off.
Your arrogance speaks wonders again. You do not know the intentions of anyone. Get a grip and observe reality. Sincere Atheists exist.BigChrisFilm said:You know God exist. You only suppress that reality, in order to continue in your sin. That is a great sin you commit. Willfully Blind.
Ha great man. Very christian of you. What ever you gotta do to perpetuate your belief system. I was raised Christian, and cling on to many of the values I was taught. That does not mean that I'm willfuly ignorant. I am perfectly aware that my subjective views of morality are just that.You know God exist. You only suppress that reality, in order to continue in your sin. That is a great sin you commit. Willfully Blind.
So, poppet, are you going against the Word of the Bible?BigChrisfilm said:Nope, still can't have it.
Luke 6:30 said:Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
BigChrisfilm said:You know it's wrong to lie, steal, blaspheme, murder, commit adultery. You have the same moral code, you just don't follow it.
Of course the world can be a scary place. However, there is not only evil in this world. Anyone who thinks there is only evil is just as blind as someone who chooses to always ignore the evil. It is not black and white, both good and evil exist within this world - that is not just a thought, it is reality.The world is a scary place. It is not just a thought, it's a reality.
Ohhhhh, right right, of course. How silly of me. I'd forgotten that only those who were not "true Christians" ever leave Christianity.It being impossible to unsave yourself, I would have to doubt you were ever really a Christian.
Because your god doesn't exist. You must follow what the Bible says.
Your post makes no sense. Hell can be eternal, and God be omniscent, omniptent, and omnibenevolent all at the same time.
Both of us.Who is right, you or God?
Prove it. Prove that there is no CHAOS in the universe. Preferably without quoting any Bible verses.
You are either a POE or one sick deluded puppy.
Off topic, have you ever taken an IQ test?
Isn't God supposed to be merciful or something?
It's easy enough for you to say that, but can you show me evidence that God agrees with you instead of with the teachings of my non-Christian religion?
The Bible says a lot of things besides that.
What is your position on loving one another? Do you feel that teaching forbids racism?
What is your position on putting the sword up into the sheath? Do you think that means Jesus forbade Christians to initiate wars?
Ha great man. Very christian of you. What ever you gotta do to perpetuate your belief system. I was raised Christian, and cling on to many of the values I was taught. That does not mean that I'm willfuly ignorant. I am perfectly aware that my subjective views of morality are just that.
Now you. You must demonize others in order to make your belief system seem worthy, and to make you feel justified in making unfounded assertions based on ancient superstitions. Care to answer any of my questions in the previous post?
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