The first step is believing in Jesus and being saved. What should happen after that?
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Acts 2.41-42The first step is believing in Jesus and being saved. What should happen after that?
The first step is believing in Jesus and being saved. What should happen after that?
Acts 2.41-42![]()
Hi; the example in Acts 19 is a special category of believers in Apostolic times; they had submitted to the baptism of John but did not know enough Gospel doctrine yet.Acts 10:47
Can anyone forbid the water so that these would not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit even as we?
Believing is the reaction to God manifesting Himself in some way to the new believer. That takes Holy Spirit action in the believer, the evidence of new life. It's the evidence of entry into the mystical body of Christ.
Peter is declaring water baptism as an entry into membership of the Christian church.
Where they had only received the baptism of John then baptism in Jesus' name with the laying on of hands followed.
Acts 19:4-6
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him who should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke with tongues, and prophesied.
eter is declaring water baptism as an entry into membership of the Christian church.
I'm aware that there are only 2 instances of the Holy Spirit direct intercession, once at Pentecost and the other here. However it doesn't take away from the fact that rebirth is from hearing and not from baptism. Not to say that's what your suggesting.Hi; the example in Acts 19 is a special category of believers in Apostolic times; they had submitted to the baptism of John but did not know enough Gospel doctrine yet.
Today people in the church age become part of the church - the body of Christ - by faith, when they are born again; baptism is a visible sign of what has already happened spiritually.
Yes true. The Holy Spirit is the fire baptism. That's why those who had John the baptist's baptism had to be rebaptised because they had an incomplete understanding.[not understanding that which the baptist pointed to]The water Jesus refers to is the Holy Spirit.
John 4:14
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
John 7:37-38
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
1 Peter 3:21
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Luke 3:16
Peter is declaring water baptism as an entry into membership of the Christian church.
What is the church but Jews and gentiles coming together as one to be one in Christ? That the Holy Spirit came on them w/o baptism did cause them to be one in the body. So why in verse 48 did Peter command they be baptised in the name of the Lord?No he isn't. He is not declaring membership. He is saying the exact opposite. He is saying don't put some man made rules on people when the Holy Spirit moves on a person and they want to be baptized then do it. That is not what is taught today. People teach baptism as some form of membership to a church building or specific group. In all actuality this scripture contradicts that notion entirely.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
What is the church but Jews and gentiles coming together as one to be one in Christ? That the Holy Spirit came on them w/o baptism did cause them to be one in the body. So why in verse 48 did Peter command they be baptised in the name of the Lord?
Jew, gentile, male, female, bond or free do not apply. At the time of the verse we were discussing that wasn't known. Hence the mystery revealed. I'm not a firm believer that baptism is needed altho I felt that I needed to be at one time. So the question of the command is a legitimate question but I'm not sure of what your answer said.The "church" is the body of Christ it is a spiritual thing made up of those who belong to him. Peter is not commanding membership. He is saying be baptized in the name of the Lord because they already belong, not because they didn't then would once they were baptized.
Also Jew and Gentile does not apply.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
You asked what are the steps to spirituality and that is learning ... steps could be described as the full meaning of what the sacraments stand for, not just what they mean in the physical but what they mean to God. What baptism means to Him, what marriage means to Him, what confession means to Him etc.Have you tried getting a concordence and doing word studies? I found that very helpful to keep to the topics that interested me and it seemed a great way for God to lead me too.
There's a great experience that follows obedience that's an increase in light and love that is meant to increase further obedience that still furthers growth and development in grace. The results are in perpetual progress. Bringing the natural under the control of the divine. Yielding to God light falls on the pathway and creates love. Love suggests obedience. The will, impulsed by love yields to the light and on it goes. It's not a work at all but only growth. Unbelief and disobedience impedes growth.