What are the Eastern Rites?

[ps139]

I'd like to see a list of all the Eastern Rites.

So far the only ones I know of are Melkite and Chaldean.
Are there many more?

 

[Paul S]

http://www.ewtn.com/library/LITURGY/EASTRITE.TXT

 

[InnerPhyre]

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Alexandrian

• Coptic
• Ethiopian

Antiochene

• Malankar (1930)
• Maronite (around 1150)
• Syrian

Byzantine

• Albanian
• Bulgarian
• Georgian
• Greek
• Hungarian
• Italo - Albanian
• Melchite (1724)
• Romanian (1698)
• Russian
• Ruthenian (1592)
• Slovak
• Ukrainian (1596)
• White Russian (1917)
• Yugoslavian

Chaldean

• Chaldean (1681)
• Malabâr

Armenian (1439)

 

[Adammi]

Are all of those in union with Rome?

 

[Adammi]

I like your signature Inner!

 

[Paul S]

All the Eastern Rites are in communion with Rome, although many of them have a similar rite in the Orthodox church which is not.

 

[Adammi]

So they view the Pope as the Vicar of Christ also? If so, I didn't think that Coptics did.

~Adam

 

[MrZoom]

^ There are Coptics who do, and there are Coptics who don't. Hence the existence of a Coptic Orthodox Church as well.

I was under the impression that the Maronites were the only Eastern Catholic Church that has never been out of communion with Rome -- or at least they claim that. If I am wrong, someone please set me straight

Thread drift: ATShavuot, I'm glad to see another West Virginian on here! Are you a native or did you move here from elsewhere? (I'm originally from Detroit.)

 

[InnerPhyre]

Are all of those in union with Rome?

Thanks!

 

[MrZoom]

Link with information about Coptic Catholics. Apparently they are few in number and dwarfed by the Coptic Orthodox.

http://www.cnewa.org/ecc-coptic-catholic.htm

 

[Maximus]

Ruthenian (1592)

That's what my parish is.

 

[Maximus]

So they view the Pope as the Vicar of Christ also? If so, I didn't think that Coptics did.

~Adam

There are Copts (Egyptians) who are in communion with the Holy Father in Rome. They are Eastern Catholics and accept all of the ecumenical councils of the Church.

Then there are the so-called Coptic Orthodox, who are Monophysites and reject every council from Chalcedon (451) on (which makes them heterodox rather than orthodox). They are not in communion with the Catholic Church.

 

[Adammi]

Thread drift: ATShavuot, I'm glad to see another West Virginian on here! Are you a native or did you move here from elsewhere? (I'm originally from Detroit.)

I live right outside of Beckley where I have lived my whole life.

~Adam

 

[Maximus]

I live right outside of Beckley where I have lived my whole life.

~Adam

I love that area. I used to live about four miles from the WV line in Virginia. I have a son who still lives in Stephens City, Virginia.

I pray that I will be allowed to go back there to stay someday soon.

That's God's Country!

 

[RhetorTheo]

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[RhetorTheo]

MrZoon, regarding the Maronites:

"All competent authorities agree as to the history of the Maronites as far back as the sixteenth century, but beyond that period the unanimity ceases. They themselves assert at once the high antiquity and the perpetual orthodoxy of their nation; but both of these pretensions have constantly been denied by their Christian -- even Catholic -- rivals in Syria, the Melchites, whether Catholic or Orthodox, the Syrian Orthodox, and the Catholic Syrians. Some European scholars accept the Maronite view; the majority reject it. So many points in the primitive history of the nation are still obscure that we can here only set forth the arguments advanced on either side, without drawing any conclusion."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09683c.htm

 

[Michael G]

I might add that the all of the various Byzantine Rites listed are but variations of the one general Byzantine Rite and not distinct rites unto themselves. The differences in these variations are often minor and come from translations or minor customs from the various cultures.

 

[Cright]

I have a nice little chart of the rites....

 

[Polycarp1]

Great discussion! I'm finding it quite interesting.

There are Copts (Egyptians) who are in communion with the Holy Father in Rome. They are Eastern Catholics and accept all of the ecumenical councils of the Church.

Then there are the so-called Coptic Orthodox, who are Monophysites and reject every council from Chalcedon (451) on (which makes them heterodox rather than orthodox). They are not in communion with the Catholic Church.

With all due respect to the claims of various churches, let's make a few points:

1. "Copt(ic)" means "Egyptian Christian," pure and simple. An Egyptian Baptist would be a Copt from the perspective of local usage of the term.

2. The largest body of Copts are Oriental Orthodox, non-Chalcedonian Christians, who belong to what is referenced as the "Coptic Orthodox Church" in English. Courtesy allows them the usage of "Orthodox" just as the churches in communion with the Ecumenical Patriarch and commonly called the Eastern Orthodox Churches are entitled to it.

3. There are also small groups of Coptic Orthodox who are Chalcedonian Eastern Orthodox, and Coptic Catholics belonging to an Eastern Rite of Catholicism.

4. From the Catholic perspective, none of the Orthodox are orthodox -- they do not adhere to some of the dogmas and doctrine taught by the Catholic Church, nor do they acknowledge the Pope -- the first making them mildly heretical and the second definitely schismatic. From their own perspective, of course, the situation is reversed.

5. Common courtesy extends to them the right to call themselves whatsoever they choose -- the Oriental Orthodox have as valid a claim to the "Orthodox" usage as do the Eastern Orthodox, from an outside perspective. (Granted that I am personally strongly Chalcedonian, and consider that true monophysitism would say something contrary to the truth about Christ -- though miaphysitism which they actually practice may not be quite so offensive.)