What About Progressive Sanctification?

[Jesus is YHWH]

Let me get this straight. A created human soul was the Creator?

Here's a novel idea. Why don't we start with some theories that are actually coherent to the human mind, and then we can debate which one is the most scriptural. Why start with a theory that doesn't even make sense to any of us?

Do you even know who the Son is in the Trinity ?

 

[JAL]

that is the kenosis heresy which makes Him not God emptying all His omni attributes. Even a child understands that concept yet you are in denial.

You've bought into a lie.

The law of identity informs us of the following: God is numerically distinct from all His creatures. Thus:
(1) God will never be a created human soul.
(2) No created human soul will ever be God.

Yahweh will never be one of us - even if you strip Him of His power. Identity CANNOT be changed.

(Now please don't respond again with that silly copy-and-paste job on the law of identity - it doesn't cover MY specific points about identity. Yet you pretend that it does, so I'm confident that you'll paste it again).

Basically you've bought into some faulty human reasoning designed to convince you that Yahweh is no longer Yahweh if He has divested Himself of power and knowledge.

 

[JAL]

Do you even know who the Son is in the Trinity ?

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

You've bought into a lie.

The law of identity informs us of the following: God is numerically distinct from all His creatures. Thus:
(1) God will never be a created human soul.
(2) No created human soul will ever be God.

Yahweh will never be one of us - even if you strip Him of His power. Identity CANNOT be changed.

(Now please don't respond again with that silly copy-and-paste job on the law of identity - it doesn't COVER my specific points about identity. Yet you pretend that it does, so I'm confident that you'll paste it again).

Basically you've bought into some faulty human reasoning designed to convince you that Yahweh is no longer Yahweh if He has divested Himself of power and knowledge.

I've already dismantled your false view of the L.O.I.

been there, done that, over it !

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

What's that supposed to mean?

The Pre Incarnate Son had no human soul.

 

[JAL]

I've already dismantled your false view of the L.O.I.

been there, done that, over it !

Right. You've upheld the law of identity by adding a created human soul to the Creator. You're right. Even a child could understand the fallacy of your position.

 

[JAL]

The Pre Incarnate Son had no human soul.

That has always been my understanding of the orthodox position. Relevance?

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

Right. You've upheld the law of identity by adding a created human soul to the Creator. You're right. Even a child could understand the fallacy of your position.

He is still a Divine Person that never changed. It only changed in your imagination but not in reality.

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

That has always been my understanding of the orthodox position. Relevance?

You brought up the human soul not me.

The Son is Eternal and Immutable just like the Father is Eternal and Immutable.

 

[JAL]

I've already dismantled your false view of the L.O.I.

been there, done that, over it !

No, you did a copy-and-paste job that had nothing to do with my specific points of objection. Gee I'm impressed.

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

Maybe someone else wants to hear your whining, I sure do not.

 

[JAL]

He is still a Divine Person that never changed. It only changed in your imagination but not in reality.

No change in His experience? Still just as omniscient, omnipotent, tireless, untemptible as before? Then no Incarnation happened.

Oh that's right. Since He didn't want to suffer on the cross, He picked some poor created human soul to do the job, shoved it into Christ's body, watched him suffer, and then sat back and took all the credit for it.

Wow. Your God gets more lovable with each passing post.

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

the ad hominems continue on which is a sure sign of an indefensible position.

 

[JAL]

the ad hominems continue on which is a sure sign of an indefensible position.

How is that ad hominem? How is a factual statement about the hypostatic union - the idea of a created soul within Christ - count as ad hominem?

 

[JAL]

@Jesus is YHWH

You've been all buddy-buddy with RickReads who wrote:

I doubt he said that Jesus is created, I know JisY doesn`t believe that.

Apparently RickReads doesn't accept the hypostatic union. So why aren't you accusing him of heresy as well?

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

@Jesus is YHWH

You've been all buddy-buddy with RickReads who wrote:


Apparently RickReads doesn't accept the hypostatic union. So why aren't you accusing him of heresy as well?

Because he is not attacking me like you are constantly.

 

[JAL]

Because he is not attacking me like you are constantly.

Hoist with one's own petard. What was that you said about whining?

 

[JAL]

@RickReads

You got that, right? Here's what your buddy just said.

Because he is not attacking me like you are constantly.

So he identifies you as a heretic as well, but he hasn't called you out, only because you haven't been attacking him. Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

[JAL]

@RickReads

Of course the two of you can easily reconcile. All you have to do is concede that Christ was a created human soul. Any particular reason you won't concede this point?

 

[Jesus is YHWH]

the ad hominems continue wave that white flag