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Ken IF ** God did exactly what you are asking , some lazy bone head 2,000 years from now would say " duhh, why don't God in a loud voice tell us what he really wants of us " ?
No! Because if it happened today the entire event will be mechanically recorded thus there will be proof of what God wants and that proof will last forever.
No! Because when it happened it was the first time in our history that a large enough area was connected by common language and roads to be sure that the facts of the event would never get wiped out.
God waited an awfully long time to do that, and He's not doing it again.
even if God spoke " from the sky , in a loud voice " and if* it was recorded , within a month skeptics would be making up reason after reason why it wasn't even God , and within 10 years 90 % or more atheists would still not believe
I actually agree with that. The religious leaders in the days of Jesus' ministry wanted him gone even though they saw him performing miracles, because he was exposing their bad motives. People either want to listen to God, or they don't.C'mon dude now you are just making stuff up!
K
That doesn't mean I don't like you ya knowI was just making the point that pouring a cup of coffee doesn't require faith. And yes I do know the truth of God; but you dont agree with it.
Ken
I want to answer this question, but first I want you to tell me if you did beleive there was a God, where would Heven be?Okay since you believe in Heaven, do you believe those whose behavior is good but don't believe in God will still go to heaven?
K
Are you talking about the Christians today, when you refer to men who claim God wants this and God wants that? Have you ever read the bible and only focused on what Jesus said in the first four books of the New Testament?No! Because if it happened today the entire event will be mechanically recorded thus there will be proof of what God wants and that proof will last forever.
Today all you have is a bunch of writing from men who claim God want's this and God want's that. They offer no proof of their claims; they just say "trust me" and we are supposed to believe them; and a lot of people do.
ken
I want to answer this question, but first I want you to tell me if you did beleive there was a God, where would Heven be?
Are you talking about the Christians today, when you refer to men who claim God wants this and God wants that? Have you ever read the bible and only focused on what Jesus said in the first four books of the New Testament?
Yes, you didIf there were a God and a Heaven, I would assume Heaven (and hell)would be located somewhere in outter space. Exactly where? I would have no idea.
I remember when I was a little kid I used to believe the sun was hell. I don't remember why I thought it, I just did; just a thought.
Did I give you enough of an answer for you to answer my question?
Ken
I guess that even Jesus said that he did not entrust himself to men, because he knew what was in their hearts (motives). To me, that would indicate that you would decide for yourself if you think Jesus really lived, and if you think what he said was true. You could still ask yourself if what he said was true, even if you don't think he lived. I think he lived, because I don't think that the entire history of the bible and all the documentation that is in it sounds like a fable. Also, I have my own inner connection to God that verifies for me the existence of God. If God yelled out one message to the whole world, I don't think it would be any different than the message Jesus brought... and people still don't really listen, not even the ones that claim to listen really do. That is why I think God speaks to us personally, as it pertains to us. I have found that God does not speak about religion to me, but of love.Actually I messed up when I said that. What I ment to say was:
"Today we have a bunch of writings from men claiming Jesus said this and Jesus said that, they offer no proof of their claims, they just say "trust me" and we are supposed to believe them; and a lot of people do."
Thanks for pointing that out for me; and letting me clear that up
Ken
Yes, you didI beleive that we will all be together in the outter space you mentioned, because there is only one big endless space
If you did go to the sun, it wouldn't hurt anyway being you will be in your spiritual body..So are you saying everybody gets to go to outter space and nobody has to go to the sun?
Peace
Ken
Ken, even if a message came from the sky, people would still interpret it differently, because we are subjective.
I'm talking about stuff that is happening TODAY - it's the same gospel, the same covenant, people are still being transformed from afraid and confused into sons & daughters of God with his attributes and signs following.You are answering questions that nobody is asking; and your ignoring the one question that I am asking you.
I am not talking about some stuff that happened thousands of years ago, I'm talking about TODAY!!
Ken
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