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Were the Nephilim to blame? Were they evil?

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Yeah, it gives extraordinarily detailed descriptions of the workings of the "Heavenly Luminaries" as well, and all of it the worst kind of rubbish. I have little regard for "the book of Enoch".
So there were media pundits writing the narrative even back then?
 
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So there were media pundits writing the narrative even back then?
Couldn't say, but whoever wrote Enoch certainly created the Science Fiction genre.
 
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Speaking of rubbish, I've read your remarks from time to time and I'm not sure I've seen anything from you that contributes to the dialogue on this board. It's always snarky criticism from you.

I don't read fiction, the book of Enoch is a possible exception. No need to read it if it doesn't appeal. There is no reason to criticize somebody for having a look at it given all the garbage that is read out there.

Reading the book of Enoch is more productive than reading anything you got to say IMO. It`s one of the oldest books in the world.
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Care to elaborate on what you mean by this 'Great Server' idea?
What we do on the outside is meant for each other. What we think and feel inside is for God and will be stored for a time when we can hide no more.
 
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What we do on the outside is meant for each other. What we think and feel inside is for God and will be stored for a time when we can hide no more.
I see, and if we could hack into this 'Great Server' and access the info what could we do with it that would upset God so much??
Are the prohibitions in the bible about not reading others minds should we develop the capacity?
 
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Wowza! I knew smart dust existed but had no idea they were working on something like that! Lord help us! If that's not the mark of the beast, nothing is!
 
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Digital enhancements won't affect the DNA that is passed onto the next generation so i'd say He'd have no issue with it.

But what if the smart dust is able to implant itself into the woman's eggs or the man's sperm or both? Then it's there at conception which is almost the same as passing it along genetically. They already are making designer babies, I can see them wanting to use microscopic computers to manipulate the egg and sperm before conception to weed out diseases or make a certain hair or eye color. Then have the computers remain in the child. They could program a tiny computer to replicate all vaccines in unborn baby's body so the kids no longer have to be vaccinated.
 
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I see, and if we could hack into this 'Great Server' and access the info what could we do with it that would upset God so much??
Are the prohibitions in the bible about not reading others minds should we develop the capacity?

Reading people's mind will inevitably lead to mind control.
 
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Reading people's mind will inevitably lead to mind control.
So? not good but no worse than anything else that can and does happen now.
China's social credit system is almost that, who cares what you think as long as you act according to the rulers wishes.
 
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It would be much easier to inject a baby after birth with such a wonder substance if its ever developed, no need to go to the lengths of incorporating it into sperm & eggs. Would cost a fortune to develop & pass testing.
 
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So? not good but no worse than anything else that can and does happen now.
China's social credit system is almost that, who cares what you think as long as you act according to the rulers wishes.

What if they control your mind to make you hate or reject God?
 
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What if they control your mind to make you hate or reject God?
That could be bad but the bible does not indicate that will happen, everyone still gets to pick by their own free will. Also, knowing someones thought and being able to make them think something are 2 completely different things in level of difficulty
 
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I see, and if we could hack into this 'Great Server' and access the info what could we do with it that would upset God so much??
Creating a new hybrid being would be the equivalent of the angel human hybrid which didn't go over well with God. He didn't like anyone tampering with us His hybrid of flesh/spirit. Especially in this case of bringing us further into the world and further from the Kingdom, where even our free will is tampered with, no doubt removing any choice of between the two. There was a time man could kill only the flesh.
 
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Well, assuming we ever know ho our brains work and how free will arises to the point that such exercise of free will might be impaired or controlled, then yes, I guess God may well object to that strongly.
However as i think we have a soul and that plays a pert in our free will, i don't think our technology will ever be able to reach the soul per se.

The bible makes it clear anyway that the taking of the mark of beast is a choice made by free will (maybe under duress at times) but people always will have the choice to take it or not, even if it means their death.
 
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The bible makes it clear anyway that the taking of the mark of beast is a choice made by free will (maybe under duress at times) but people always will have the choice to take it or not, even if it means their death
True. Like choosing smart phones , our dongle brains
 
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Assuming a litteral vaccum I'm not sure how they would have been judged but what is interesting in the account is that it tells us that humans and angels are compatible which hints that we are the same species since only the same species can interbreed.
 
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