welfare programs

[dogs4thewin]

How would you streamline waste in welfare programs

These would include section 8, SNAP,,SSI, TANF and Medicaid

These would NOT include Medicare, SSDI, regular social security or veteran's benefits

Basically programs that have a means based required qualify

 

[Paulos23]

Elon's and Trump's solution is to shut them down. No program, no waste.

Personally, I would bundle them together in a UBI and single-payer healthcare system.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Elon's and Trump's solution is to shut them down. No program, no waste.

Personally, I would bundle them together in a UBI and single-payer healthcare system.

Why should there be UBI?

 

[Laodicean60]

How would you streamline waste in welfare programs

These would include section 8, SNAP,,SSI, TANF and Medicaid

These would NOT include Medicare, SSDI, regular social security or veteran's benefits

Basically programs that have a means based required qualify

This is a conundrum there is so much fraud. In the 80s I used to buy food stamps at half price. Now I think they just buy the groceries and give it. My daughter's physical therapy for the geriatric charges for no-shows.

 

[dogs4thewin]

This is a conundrum there is so much fraud. In the 80s I used to buy food stamps at half price. Now I think they just buy the groceries and give it. My daughter's physical therapy for the geriatric charges for no-shows.

I feel that along with strict requirements to qualify ( including work requirements for most people) There should also be strict requirements as to what can be purchased.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

With the shutdown of USAID, there are now additional funds available for addressing domestic needs. This aligns with the Vice President's remark about prioritizing care for one's family, then neighbors, and finally the broader global community. We should expand US welfare for citizen who needs help.

 

[dogs4thewin]

With the shutdown of USAID, there are now additional funds available for addressing domestic needs. This aligns with the Vice President's remark about prioritizing care for one's family, then neighbors, and finally the broader global community. We should expand US welfare for citizen who needs help.

How would you suggest doing that while still ensuring (to the best of ability) that it is not abused.

 

[KCfromNC]

With the shutdown of USAID, there are now additional funds available for addressing domestic needs.

Yeah, about $500 per person on medicare and medicaid. That's what, less than one specialist visit per? Not exactly earth shattering, weird the GOP seems so caught up in small measures rather than actually addressing the issue seriously.

 

[KCfromNC]

How would you suggest doing that while still ensuring (to the best of ability) that it is not abused.

Much stricter requirements for people who take advantage of the system by claiming they're not able to work.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Much stricter requirements for people who take advantage of the system by claiming they're not able to work.

like what?

 

[Paulos23]

Why should there be UBI?

Less administrative overhead (assuming less requirements for people to get the UBI) and there is enough money from the welfare programs to cover a low level UBI that could help more people who are not getting paid enough or don't have a job. You could throw in unemployment payments in there as well.

Of course I am assuming UBI is not high enough to completely live off of it, but even so, why not. Many jobs are being replaced by automation, and even A.I., that we will not have enough jobs for everyone soon.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Less administrative overhead (assuming less requirements for people to get the UBI) and there is enough money from the welfare programs to cover a low level UBI that could help more people who are not getting paid enough or don't have a job. You could throw in unemployment payments in there as well.

Of course I am assuming UBI is not high enough to completely live off of it, but even so, why not. Many jobs are being replaced by automation, and even A.I., that we will not have enough jobs for everyone soon.

If you are going to get free money for doing nothing then that money should come with strict requirements as to how it is spent. Either that or no additional help. In other words if we are going to have UBI that means nothing else for people who just get that ( as opposed to people on SSDI or seniors). If you are given free money and you abuse it then you do not get any additional help.

 

[Paulos23]

If you are going to get free money for doing nothing then that money should come with strict requirements as to how it is spent. Either that or no additional help. In other words if we are going to have UBI that means nothing else for people who just get that ( as opposed to people on SSDI or seniors). If you are given free money and you abuse it then you do not get any additional help.

If they don't have a job and their spouse and/or family does not have a job they need money to get the basics to live. And while the point is to try and give enough so they don't need any other help, we know this will not be the case for everyone. Why force them into a harder situation because you feel they are lazy, drunk, high, etc?

 

[dogs4thewin]

If they don't have a job and their spouse and/or family does not have a job they need money to get the basics to live. And while the point is to try and give enough so they don't need any other help, we know this will not be the case for everyone. Why force them into a harder situation because you feel they are lazy, drunk, high, etc?

because if I am going to give you free money then I ( whether I am the government, a charity or even a private part y have the interest in ensuring that it is going to needs not wants

 

[mark46]

As Reagan said so long ago, welfare policies should not be decided by the federal government.

If the federal government wants to continue to take money from the rich states (Dems plus FL and TX) and give it to the poor states (Republican), then the money should be given in block grants to the state so that the states can make allocation decisions. I believe that regan called this "revenue-sharing". The administrative costs would be greatly reduced.

This approach is so, so much better than having the party in power decide for the nation who should get money and what products the money should be spent on.

 

[dogs4thewin]

As Reagan said so long ago, welfare policies should not be decided by the federal government.

If the federal government wants to continue to take money from the rich states (Dems plus FL and TX) and give it to the poor states (Republican), then the money should be given in block grants to the state so that the states can make allocation decisions. I believe that regan called this "revenue-sharing". The administrative costs would be greatly reduced.

This approach is so, so much better than having the party in power decide for the nation who should get money and what products the money should be spent on.

so basically have each state make their own rules about welfare?

 

[mark46]

I feel that along with strict requirements to qualify ( including work requirements for most people) There should also be strict requirements as to what can be purchased.

Yup, the Republican nanny state in action!

The states should judge who should qualify and how the programs should be managed.

Revenue-sharing would simply send block grants to the states and eliminate almost all of the administrative cost.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yup, the Republican nanny state in action!

The states should judge who should qualify and how the programs should be managed.

Revenue-sharing would simply send block grants to the states and eliminate almost all of the administrative cost.

that makes some sense as different states have different costs of living.

 

[mark46]

so basically have each state make their own rules about welfare?

Absolutely!

The federal government is much too large to make such decisions.

BTW, this is also true of education spending, although I can see the money going directly to the school districts. In any case, it is not the federal government that should make the decisions.
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The federal government should be the arbiter of laws being broken (e.g civil rights and free speech).

 

[HarleyER]

How would you streamline waste in welfare programs

These would include section 8, SNAP,,SSI, TANF and Medicaid

These would NOT include Medicare, SSDI, regular social security or veteran's benefits

Basically programs that have a means based required qualify

I think streamlining welfare programs will take a back seat to all the fraud and corruption that is being uncovered.