Weather during the Global Flood

[Floodnut]

Assuming there was a Global Flood, what would the weather have been like during the various phases of the flood, through the first 40 days, through the continued rising of the Waters, At the point of grounding, and then through the abating, the time of the sending of the birds, and then the disembarking?

Genesis 8:1 states that God caused a great wind to pass over the earth.

I will, for my part, simply ignore those who choose to dispute the reality of the Flood in their posts on this thread. There are malicious individuals who may come and attempt to derail the discussion, so be forewarned.

What was the weather like?

 

[Rusticus]

Assuming there was a Global Flood, what would the weather have been like during the various phases of the flood, through the first 40 days, through the continued rising of the Waters, At the point of grounding, and then through the abating, the time of the sending of the birds, and then the disembarking?

Genesis 8:1 states that God caused a great wind to pass over the earth.

I will, for my part, simply ignore those who choose to dispute the reality of the Flood in their posts on this thread. There are malicious individuals who may come and attempt to derail the discussion, so be forewarned.

What was the weather like?

There was no weather, because there was no global flood.

 

[shernren]

The more interesting question is how would weather have been like before the Global Flood. Because: how on Earth could Adam to Noah have survived under a few km of water vapor pressure in the atmosphere??

 

[The Lady Kate]

What was the weather like?

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say... rain.

 

[Saucy]

Well, before the flood, there was indeed that canopy of water over the earth, meaning it was probably overcast and the temperatures remained tropical. It's almost like a greenhouse effect. There's even evidence in Antarctica of tropical plants that used to grow there. Also, people have found mammoths found in Alaska that flash-froze, meaning they immediately froze and there was tropical plants still digesting in their stomachs and even in their mouth. The earth was very warm and tropical before hand. Then, during the flood, the bible describes water falling from the heavens and even coming up out of the earth. So, it was very nasty and stormy outside. After the flood, that's when the climates changed.

 

[TimeCubeNinja]

I would imagine it would be just like any greate rain storm, after the flood it would be overcast and cloudy. After living in tropical conditions for all of there lives the suden drop in moister content and I would imagine a similar drop in global temperature it would have felt very cold and dry to Noha and his familly.

 

[ebia]

Also, people have found mammoths found in Alaska that flash-froze, meaning they immediately froze and there was tropical plants still digesting in their stomachs and even in their mouth.

What? You can provide evidence of this?

 

[shernren]

Well, before the flood, there was indeed that canopy of water over the earth, meaning it was probably overcast and the temperatures remained tropical. It's almost like a greenhouse effect.

Verses please.

Also, people have found mammoths found in Alaska that flash-froze, meaning they immediately froze and there was tropical plants still digesting in their stomachs and even in their mouth.

I thought we were talking about a flood here. Not The Day After Tomorrow or something.

 

[Critias]

What? You can provide evidence of this?

I don't know about exactness of his claim, but an oil company was drilling for oil in Alaska and hit a frozen tropical forest that had not yet petrified. It was in between 1,100 and 1,700 feet down.

Here is the source:

Lindsey Williams, The Energy Non-Crisis, 2nd edition (Kasilof, Alaska: Worth Publishing Co., 1980), p. 54.

And we also know the mammoths were found frozen in Alaska.

1845 a mammoth was found with food between its teeth
1910 a mammoth was found with food in its stomach
1972 a mammoth was found with internal organs and food preserved

All I have seen said about the food is that it was grasses that no longer are in Alaska.

 

[shernren]

Look! A talkorigins site that doesn't call YECs ignorant PRATTlers!

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mammoths.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html

 

[Critias]

A man what a disappointment for TEs, we know how you all love to call us ignorant.

 

[shernren]

I guess I'll just ignore that!

 

[Critias]

You oughta to know I am just messin with ya! You know I love ya, even if you are a TE,

 

[ebia]

I don't know about exactness of his claim, but an oil company was drilling for oil in Alaska and hit a frozen tropical forest that had not yet petrified. It was in between 1,100 and 1,700 feet down.

Here is the source:

Lindsey Williams, The Energy Non-Crisis, 2nd edition (Kasilof, Alaska: Worth Publishing Co., 1980), p. 54.

And we also know the mammoths were found frozen in Alaska.

1845 a mammoth was found with food between its teeth
1910 a mammoth was found with food in its stomach
1972 a mammoth was found with internal organs and food preserved

All I have seen said about the food is that it was grasses that no longer are in Alaska.

"tropical plants once grew in Alaska" and "mammoths once lived in Alaska" is a long way from the two happing at the same time.

 

[mixin machine]

"tropical plants once grew in Alaska" and "mammoths once lived in Alaska" is a long way from the two happing at the same time.

Are the tropical plants that your speaking of the same as the plants found in
the mammoth's stomach and teeth? If so then your rebuttal of that statement should be that they did happen at the same time,right!

 

[ebia]

Are the tropical plants that your speaking of the same as the plants found in
the mammoth's stomach and teeth? If so then your rebuttal of that statement should be that they did happen at the same time,right!

eh?

 

[gluadys]

Are the tropical plants that your speaking of the same as the plants found in
the mammoth's stomach and teeth?

Not likely. Mammoths lived in the cold, dry climate of the Ice Ages. They could not have survived in a tropical climate.

Which poses an interesting question for people who hold that a pre-flood water canopy kept all the earth at a tropical temperature. How did plants and animals that need a cold environment survive? Polar bears in the tropics? Caribou? Boreal forests?

 

[Critias]

I don't know if that is quite correct Gluadys. If it were true, then we would expect to see sebaceous glands to oil their hair and fur, but they don't have any. Mammals that live in cold temperatures need oil to protect them from the cold.

As far as I know, all mammals that live in cold climates have sebaceous glands to protect them from the cold.

Has there been any fossils of mammoths found in warmer climates?

 

[Critias]

"tropical plants once grew in Alaska" and "mammoths once lived in Alaska" is a long way from the two happing at the same time.

I wasn't stating that what was previously said was correct. I gave what I have read about the subject.

If you want to argue what I posted, I can look up the scientists who made these findings and you can go debate them about it.

To rule this out as a possibilty shows more of your bias than of you actually seeking truth.

 

[gluadys]

I don't know if that is quite correct Gluadys. If it were true, then we would expect to see sebaceous glands to oil their hair and fur, but they don't have any. Mammals that live in cold temperatures need oil to protect them from the cold.

As far as I know, all mammals that live in cold climates have sebaceous glands to protect them from the cold.

Has there been any fossils of mammoths found in warmer climates?

Do you know for sure they don't have any?

AFAIK, all mammoths have been found in Arctic or sub-Arctic regions, and some have been well enough preserved that sebaceous glands, if they existed, could be found. But I don't know the detailed description of such finds so I can't tell you if it includes sebaceous glands. I never heard of mammoths living far from the ice fields, so I expect they would either have sebaceous glands or another mechanism for dealing with the cold. Unlike their cousins, the elephants, mammoths were not tropical creatures. Also, unlike elephants, they were, as you noted, well-covered with hair.

Of course, the question of non-tropical species applies to all animals and plants in a supposed pre-flood tropical world. Even animals with sebaceous glands like foxes, hares, bears, etc.