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We need to explain HOW God knows the future?

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Dr James White said:

I would like to submit that if God created with full and complete knowledge everything that is going to happen in time
Not only that, I believe that God knows everything that could have happened outside of space-time.

you need to then give some reason as to how God has that kind of knowledge.
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Well, God is omniscient. The way he knows things is beyond our capacity. Is 55:

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
We are not God. We don't know how God possesses such omniscient knowledge.

Romans 11:

33 O, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and untraceable His ways!
Job 11:

7“Can you find out the deep things of God? Can you find out the limit of the Almighty? 8 It is higher than heavenc—what can you do? Deeper than Sheol—what can you know? 9 Its measure is longer than the earth and broader than the sea.
God is omniscient and sovereign. We cannot understand how he does certain things, and he has no obligation to explain how or why he does them.

Do we need to explain how God knows the future?

No, we don't need to. He is God, and we are not.

Do we need to provide a reason for how God has knowledge of the future?

You can try if you want. As for me, I don't know the whys and hows of God, except what he has revealed to us in the Bible. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God's infinite mind is beyond our finite human minds.
 
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It is quite simple, really. Everything that is created exists in Him. Like your thought exists in your head.

And space-time is simply one of the dimensions of the universe. God knows it all at once as you can know your thought all at once. Future exists only for us, because we move through the universe (through spacetime), God does not.
 
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Dr James White said:


Not only that, I believe that God knows everything that could have happened outside of space-time.


Emphasis added.

Well, God is omniscient. The way he knows things is beyond our capacity. Is 55:


Romans 11:


Job 11:


God is omniscient and sovereign. We cannot understand how he does certain things, and he has no obligation to explain how or why he does them.

Do we need to explain how God knows the future?

No, we don't need to. He is God, and we are not.

Do we need to provide a reason for how God has knowledge of the future?

You can try if you want. As for me, I don't know the whys and hows of God, except what he has revealed to us in the Bible. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God's infinite mind is beyond our finite human minds.
God's foreknowledge is the same as the foreknowledge of a master home builder. A home builder has a vision of what his next home will look like and takes the steps necessary to build it. He can describe in detail what it will look like because he is the one causing it to be.

Amo 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
 
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Amo 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
Let proposition P1 = God has to explain how and why he does any given thing.

Is P1 true?
 
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To understand how he knows everything that will happen (in the future) is not hard to understand. He knows everything about the present (as well as the past). If he knows everything about any present second (of time), then he knows everything about the immediately future second of time, and every second after that, infinitively on and on.
Be Blessed
The PuP
 
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Dr James White said:
Not only that, I believe that God knows everything that could have happened outside of space-time.
Emphasis added.
Well, God is omniscient. The way he knows things is beyond our capacity. Is 55:
We are not God. We don't know how God possesses such omniscient knowledge.
Romans 11:
Job 11:
God is omniscient and sovereign. We cannot understand how he does certain things, and he has no obligation to explain how or why he does them.
Do we need to explain how God knows the future?
No, we don't need to. He is God, and we are not.
Do we need to provide a reason for how God has knowledge of the future?
You can try if you want. As for me, I don't know the whys and hows of God, except what he has revealed to us in the Bible. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God's infinite mind is beyond our finite human minds.
In the NT God's foreknowledge (prognosis) is of his works.

"Known to the Lord for ages is his work." (Ac 15:18)

God foreknows his work of the future because he has decreed long before time what he shall do.
 
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Not only does He know the future, He also planned it.
God knows the future. Before the foundation of the world, his salvation plans for mankind took into account his foreknowledge of all future free will actions of every person on earth until the time of his death.

Hebrews 4:3 For we who believed enter into [that] rest, just as he has said: “As I swore in my wrath, ‘They shall not enter into my rest,’” and yet his works were accomplished at the foundation of the world.
 
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