We need more moderate politicians

[arnegrim]

This is also a call to all those in California to support the redistricting proposition put forward by Ah-nold. The current legislature has an approval rating under 30%... and has for a while... but the current districts guarantee reelection for nearly everyone.

The political system is punishing moderates and creating an artificial support for the more radicals of both parties. In fact, this is probably the biggest reason a third party does not have much influence. Rules need to be changed, districts need to be redrawn, and people need to feel confident in voting for more moderate politicians.

 

[Zoot]

All the moderate politicians live outside of the United States. You wanna start importing?

 

[Law of Loud]

This is also a call to all those in California to support the redistricting proposition put forward by Ah-nold. The current legislature has an approval rating under 30%... and has for a while... but the current districts guarantee reelection for nearly everyone.

The political system is punishing moderates and creating an artificial support for the more radicals of both parties. In fact, this is probably the biggest reason a third party does not have much influence. Rules need to be changed, districts need to be redrawn, and people need to feel confident in voting for more moderate politicians.

What third party would have an ounce of influence if every district was competitive? The large part of votes that they get are out of relatively non-competitive districts, as in the competitive districts it seems a lot more the nature to vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

[Redneck]

All the moderate politicians live outside of the United States. You wanna start importing?

We. Do. Not. Need. To. Import. More. Politicians.

Any questions?

 

[CHARLES H]

We. Do. Not. Need. To. Import. More. Politicians.

Any questions?

i agree. how about GOD forbid a honest one.

 

[charmtrap]

What California really needs is less legislative power in the hands of voters. California is largely ungovernable already due to all our myriad propositions. Why bother having representatives and Governors at all since we vote for every damn thing already?

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

... Why bother having representatives and Governors at all since we vote for every damn thing already?

You don't like that?

 

[charmtrap]

You don't like that?

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Not at all. You'd think it would be great, but it turns out the only thing more short-sighted and ignorant than a politician is a bunch of voters.

 

[MoonlessNight]

We. Do. Not. Need. To. Import. More. Politicians.

Any questions?

I think I'd jump on a deal where we could export two of our politicians to import one.

 

[Zoot]

We'll take Bernie Sanders in exchange for Winston Peters and Peter Dunne.

 

[CHARLES H]

I think I'd jump on a deal where we could export two of our politicians to import one.

what other country would make that deal?

 

[Redneck]

We'll take Bernie Sanders in exchange for Winston Peters and Peter Dunne.

One of our politicians for two of yours?

That's a gyp for us.

 

[Zoot]

One of our politicians for two of yours?

That's a gyp for us.

We'll throw in some Lord of the Rings memorabilia.

 

[MethodMan]

We'll take Bernie Sanders in exchange for Winston Peters and Peter Dunne.

You will have to include a few billion in cash (American) and you first round draft pick for the next three years.

How about you just take Bernie Sanders and we call it even?

 

[MethodMan]

One of our politicians for two of yours?

That's a gyp for us.

I lok at it as a win!

 

[arnegrim]

What California really needs is less legislative power in the hands of voters. California is largely ungovernable already due to all our myriad propositions. Why bother having representatives and Governors at all since we vote for every damn thing already?

If the representatives actually represented the people I might agree with you. As it is, they don't... and need to be removed and replaced by people who do.

 

[arnegrim]

What third party would have an ounce of influence if every district was competitive? The large part of votes that they get are out of relatively non-competitive districts, as in the competitive districts it seems a lot more the nature to vote for the lesser of two evils.

In California there are no 'competitive' districts.

 

[charmtrap]

If the representatives actually represented the people I might agree with you. As it is, they don't... and need to be removed and replaced by people who do.

Can you be more specific? As in, how are you not being represented? If you just mean I want a representative who agrees with me, then that's your problem, not the government's.

 

[Charlie V]

Frankly, I think we need more liberal politicians. I'm tired of the right-wingers saying the right wing needs to stay as far to the right as possible to "energize their base" while left wing politicians need to move to the right to appear "more moderate." I think liberals need to be more liberal to energize their base. Many people are discouraged that we have two parties: The ultra-right wing fanatics (Republicans) and the slightly right-wing fanatics (Republican-Lite, otherwise known as the Democrats.)

Charlie

 

[MethodMan]

Frankly, I think we need more liberal politicians. I'm tired of the right-wingers saying the right wing needs to stay as far to the right as possible to "energize their base" while left wing politicians need to move to the right to appear "more moderate." I think liberals need to be more liberal to entergize their base. Many people are discouraged that we have two parties: The ultra-right wing fanatics (Republicans) and the slightly right-wing fanatics (Republican-Lite, otherwise known as the Democrats.)

Charlie

I agree - I wish liberal Democrats would speak loud and often.