We Need More Like Him

[honorthesabbath]

I like this guy. Aside from the fact that he is a Bush supporter. He speaks the truth. I sure wish we had leaders like that in the USA. Like America, Australia is a land of immigrants. But they are getting fed up with foreigners coming into THEIR country and telling them what to do--and saying it in their native tongue! It is time to fight back.

Acceptance vs Tolerance


America Needs A Leader Like This!

Prime Minister John Howard – Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,trials and victories by millions of men and women who have soughtfreedom' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society. Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.''We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

 

[Jimlarmore]

I like the Christian stand he is taking however, I can see how this could lead to sectarian violence towards those who were once violent to them. Two wrongs never make a right. Technically we should all be kicked out of the U.S. if we aren't native American and speak Cherokee, Sioux or Shawnee. I fought for my country in Viet Nam as a combat infantryman. I love this country and the freedom it provides but sometimes real freedom can cut both ways.

In the end we need to allow a divergence of cultures to develope. The culture of today was not the culture of 300 years ago here , I know , I am cherokee.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[honorthesabbath]

HI Jim--I understand, I have some Indian in my family line too. But what is done is done. Let's now allow what happened to the American Indian to happen to us or our children and grandchildren.

I disagree about the divergence of cultures. When a nation has divided sympathies, it is weakened to it's core. When a nation stands UNITED, in ONE, mind--then there is strength and safety for all. Doesn't even God's word teach that a house divided against itself CANNOT stand!?

Just one good look around Europe and the US with the hordes of illegal aliens consuming these continents should awaken us to this monstrous dilemma. Sadly too-- is that most of these aliens, especially in Europe are Muslims and Hindus, bent on 'taking over' those nations. This is the devils work and it must be curtailed.

Ac 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

You see--God set the BOUNDS in which the different peoples were to live. He even did it with the tribes of Israel. Everyone was to have their OWN territory. This is why I say that all this massive movements of peoples right now into nations not their own is of the devil.
Someone needs to be standing up against this or we will all be buried.

 

[Jimlarmore]

HI Jim--I understand, I have some Indian in my family line too. But what is done is done. Let's now allow what happened to the American Indian to happen to us or our children and grandchildren.

I guess my point is that intolerance to divergence now seems ironic in light of what happened to make us what we are which is a melting pot.

I disagree about the divergence of cultures. When a nation has divided sympathies, it is weakened to it's core. When a nation stands UNITED, in ONE, mind--then there is strength and safety for all. Doesn't even God's word teach that a house divided against itself CANNOT stand!?

I agree we should be united as a country. I have never advocated a divergence from being "American" but within that envelope you have a huge divergence of all kinds of cultures. We stand united in our unique and separate differences as distinctly American. I think it's dangerous when we pick one area of this plethora of cultures to point a finger and say you can't stay here. Sure if a pin headed group of loonies starts to promoting war against us like some of the Muslim's are we need to deal with that. I know enough to know that all muslims do not share this terroristic philsophy against our country. So to me our conflict should be against those who would destroy what we are and that is American people living in the persuit of happiness in a free land blessed by God.


God Bless
Jim Larmore

P.S. Happy Birthday

 

[honorthesabbath]

Jim--Again--I know you have sympathies towards those who enter our country illegally, but please watch this video and read this article so you can better understand what is REALLY happening.

BTW--I live in an area that is almost overcome with the Mexican invasion and I know first hand the arrogance and hostility that those aliens exhibit against we true citizens of the USA. It's truly pathetic how they act.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3428257640989658283

And this article...if these two pieces of information doesn't cause you to grasp this situation--then--boy--I don't know what else to say..I would have posted the whole article--but wasn't sure about the copyright law.

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/blog.php/2007/11/25/poverty-in-denver-illegalhttp://neighbors.denverpost.com/blo...llegal-aliens-making-it-worse-for-coloradans/

 

[moicherie]

I wonder what the native Australians think of his rhetoric and which Christian prinicple advocates slaughtering the natives and stealing their land?????
BTW I agree that if one goes to live in Australia or wherever one should adapt to the lifestyle however what if the lifestyle then changes and offends one's morals? Our society has changed (ask the Native Australians, Americans and Caribs, Arawaks oops they were killed off by illegal Europeans ) and some people may think some of the good old values no longer exist and want to reinstate them.... so what then?
BTW they are not illegals aliens, they are not from outer space, they are fellow human earthlings why not call them illegal immigrants instead....remember that next time you see a human.

 

[sentipente]

Jim--Again--I know you have sympathies towards those who enter our country illegally,

Our country? Who gave this country to you?

 

[mva1985]

BTW they are not illegals aliens, they are not from outer space, they are fellow human earthlings why not call them illegal immigrants instead....remember that next time you see a human.

Why not call them undocumented immigrants? They are illegal, and they are alien to this country.

Illegal alien works for me.

 

[JonMiller]

Apparently some would say to Christ, when asked who was their neighbor, that it wasn't the mexican who was here illegally.

JM

 

[Mankin]

Apparently some would say to Christ, when asked who was their neighbor, that it wasn't the mexican who was here illegally.

JM

Yep. I agree the border needs to be sealed up but I do not agree with deporting all the illegal aliens. They are the ones being exploited. The companies know they can get cheap labor out of them so they hire them in droves. The mexicans accept the jobs because the conditions are better than those in their own country.

 

[Mankin]

Then Jesus would tell the Good Mexican story eh?

 

[honorthesabbath]

Yep. I agree the border needs to be sealed up but I do not agree with deporting all the illegal aliens. They are the ones being exploited. The companies know they can get cheap labor out of them so they hire them in droves. The mexicans accept the jobs because the conditions are better than those in their own country.

Mankin--when an illegal takes an American's job from him/her, the American gets hit twice!

One because he loses his livelyhood and two--his tax dollars before he lost his job to that alien paid for government subsidies so the illegal COULD work for lower wages. Now tell me what is right or fair about that?

 

[moicherie]

Apparently some would say to Christ, when asked who was their neighbor, that it wasn't the mexican who was here illegally.

JM

Since the mexican is illegal according to some on here, he does not even count as a human he is considered an alien so therefore not subject to the christian code of how to treat one's fellow human.....

 

[moicherie]

Mankin--when an illegal takes an American's job from him/her, the American gets hit twice!

One because he loses his livelyhood and two--his tax dollars before he lost his job to that alien paid for government subsidies so the illegal COULD work for lower wages. Now tell me what is right or fair about that?

The job cannot be taken it is given, blame the one who hires him...........

 

[mva1985]

Since the mexican is illegal according to some on here he does not even count as a human he is considered an alien so therefore not subject to the christian code of how to treat one's fellow human.....

No one said that they do not count as human beings. And we certainly should act christianly towards them.

While at the same time they are breaking the law by being here illegally. I guess it would be all right with you if my son's fiancee came here illegally - instead of following the proper channels. By the time the process is over it probably will have involved over a year of time that they have invested in this process - LEGALLY.

And she will pay her taxes when she works here to boot!!!

 

[honorthesabbath]

The job cannot be taken it is given, blame the one who hires him...........

BOTH are to blame Moi.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Since the mexican is illegal according to some on here he does not even count as a human he is considered an alien so therefore not subject to the christian code of how to treat one's fellow human.....

Could you point out EXACTLY WHO said that the illegals aren't "HUMAN"? I guess I must have missed that post(s).

 

[honorthesabbath]

Apparently some would say to Christ, when asked who was their neighbor, that it wasn't the mexican who was here illegally.

JM

Mt 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Notice Jon that even Jesus said that those who DO THE WILL OF GOD-are the ones considered 'brethren'. I do not think that those who are ILLEGALLY breaking into this country and stealing ID's - desecrating our flag, raping and killing of women and children would qualify under those terms given by Jesus, do you?

 

[moicherie]

Could you point out EXACTLY WHO said that the illegals aren't "HUMAN"? I guess I must have missed that post(s).

the should be a comma after ' according to some on here' read it in that context.

 

[moicherie]

No one said that they do not count as human beings. And we certainly should act christianly towards them.

While at the same time they are breaking the law by being here illegally. I guess it would be all right with you if my son's fiancee came here illegally - instead of following the proper channels. By the time the process is over it probably will have involved over a year of time that they have invested in this process - LEGALLY.

And she will pay her taxes when she works here to boot!!!

The irony is America is a land of mass illegal immigration in the eyes of Native Americans but now the doors are officially closed to masses of people. So perhaps the chickens are coming home to roost?