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We must obey God!

There seems to be at times a great resistance to a message that declares our need to obey the commandments of God. People preaching odedience can labeled as legalists. It is not legalistic to live in accordance with God's commandments. God's word is life to us, come and eat His word and live! Legalism is to think that your works of obedience are somehow going to save you... to attempt to save yourself by your own works is a dark road walk down, but equally as dark is the road of disobedience or rebellion against God.


Exodus 5:2 And Pharaoh said, Who [is] the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.

To be unwilling to obey all that God has spoken is to stand with Pharoah and declare who is the Lord that I should obey Him?

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
 
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Obedience brings the mercy of Christ into our lives. When we bring each thing captive to Christ and lay it at the mercy seat, which in New Testement times has become the Throne of Grace, He has promised to forgive. But we need to bring those things to Him to receive. If, when we go to the throne/mercy seat, to receive, before passing through the inner court to go to the Holy of Holies, and when we stop at the altar of supplication where the light shines on the bread, having found sin passed to others, first correct that, then return to recieve His mercy. In doing so you connect to His Love.
False religion is based on obedience to false interpretation of the bible, so read it well enough to have the proper context behind each command FROM GOD. Many things are written as patterns that mankind uses that opposess God. Moses, David, Paul, all of them wrote things that have contradictions that supported cultural issues. Beware of traditions. Be close enough to God to know what He says, anything not done in Love is not of God.
 
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Hi all ,

Like the topic !

A word came to me once - there are basically two false religions in the world , one says you have to do everything right in order to get into heaven ; and the other says it doesn't matter what we do , God accepts us anyway .

The truth is we , of ourselves lack the virtue to do enough right to be heaven bound by our works of righteousness . But God has made a way through Jesus , whereby our past sins are forgiven , and wherein we can be endowed with power from on high , and with this provision , the virtue of Christ is offered us , which when effectual received does enable us to live in harmony with God's commandments .

So , while we could never measure up , on our own ; now that we have access to God's Spirit of Grace there's no longer any excuse for not being raised up by the gift of righteousness .

Unfortunately , some seem to wrongly mystify this , and act like it's all settled and done , even though our lives are clearly in need of correction .

But if we look for example in Revelation Chapters 2+3 we see that The Lord is still requiring compliance from believers or serious consequences will fall .

And the reason for this is not so much because disobedience is an affront to God , as it is that the things which The Lord commands are essential components of what it takes to be able to enter into The Heavenly , without ruining the bliss thereof for the others who reside there .

So , we need to be conformed by Christ's Spirit and Righteousness in order to be able to harmonize with His Heavenly Family , or else for the sake of the others we won't be accepted therein .

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.
<-----> Revelation 22:14+15

He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
<-----> Revelation 21:7+8

And apparently , there are only two possibilities .

So, we either by grace , live up to God's Standard , or we are cast away for good .

Not too scary if we have already tasted of Christ's Ability within !

May The Lord Be Pleased !

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All that the Lord has commanded we will do!

1 john 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

You cannot be in him if you are not willing to obey.
 
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Obedience is not an option. "For without holiness, no one will see the Lord". We are not saved by works that is very clear in the scriptures. But what is also clear is that if anyone is living in willfull sin, they will not inherit eternal life.

Our sinful nature does not make us sin as the Holy Spirit does not make us obey God. God in His grace has given us the ability and freedom to obey Him, and if don't it's not because we can't, but because we choose not to.

Why would God ask us to obey Him if He did not expect us to? Why would He ask us to obey Him if we couldn't?

Jesus said,"If you love Me obey My commandments". There is no other way to express our love for Jesus than by obeying Him. The reason there is so much sin in the church is because there are so few Christians who truly appreciate what Jesus has done for them on the cross.

If we are born again we can no longer blame our sinful nature for disobeying God. Our sinful nature cannot make us disobey God. Every time we disobey God we make the choice to ignore God and give into our sinful nature. The questions to ask ourselves: Do we love God enough to obey Him? Do we appreciate what Jesus went through on the cross enough to stop sinning?
 
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We must obey God!

There seems to be at times a great resistance to a message that declares our need to obey the commandments of God. People preaching odedience can labeled as legalists. It is not legalistic to live in accordance with God's commandments. God's word is life to us, come and eat His word and live! Legalism is to think that your works of obedience are somehow going to save you... to attempt to save yourself by your own works is a dark road walk down, but equally as dark is the road of disobedience or rebellion against God.


Exodus 5:2 And Pharaoh said, Who [is] the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.

To be unwilling to obey all that God has spoken is to stand with Pharoah and declare who is the Lord that I should obey Him?

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Very good,

However Legalism is the penalty, and works of the law is Oral law.
 
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I once had a vision (?!) of what the Kingdom was likened to. Imagine a fairground; believing will gain admittance in; believing and obeying will give you admittance plus tickets to the enjoyments found therein. However Love for the owner along with the discipline that goes with it, procures a place in management. I see it as the nations, kings of the nations and priests of God. Love outweighs all of it because to love includes pleasing the object of your love. Obedience alone can have many motives. ie: we're to love His character and allow Himself to work His will into us by yeilding our wills to His Way. vs working for the "cause". The disciples and Martha had the "cause" in mind while Mary (in pouring the ointment in preparation for buriel) had His character more in mind. All procure a place but the Father decides who sits where.

Enjoying Christ fully is experiencing Him as our bountiful supply. There are still many traditionalists in the midst who demand obedience to unnecessary manmade laws.


Philipians 1:
15Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

16The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:

17But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

18What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

19For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

20According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.

21For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
 
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I also want to ask, does anyone here know what commandments he's talking about?

Love is the fulfillment of the law. Jesus commanded us to love one another as we love ourselves. We are to be holy as He is Holy. We are to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and strength. We express our love for God by living loving, holy, and obedient lives. How else can we express our love for Him?
 
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Love is the fulfillment of the law. Jesus commanded us to love one another as we love ourselves. We are to be holy as He is Holy. We are to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and strength. We express our love for God by living loving, holy, and obedient lives. How else can we express our love for Him?

Very true.. Love is the fulfillment of the law because to obey God is to elevate His will above your own. This is something only the power of the spirit can develop in us. That is why we are told many times if we love God we will obey all He has commanded.


I just wanted to see the answer that would come out of it, if anyone knew that we were actually to OBEY his commands because too many say that they were nailed to the cross and that we dont have to follow them.

It is obvious the Ten commandments were not nailed to the cross.. It is still just as wrong to kill, steal, lie, adulterate worship other Gods etc etc. as it ever was.
 
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Greetings all ,

It appears that the context of that which was " nailed to the cross " , is referring to the things which The Lord distinctly commanded Israel for the sake of being distinguished from all other nations , seeing how Paul was writing to the uncircumcised ( Gentiles ) , and affirming to them that though Christ and His Atoning Sacrifice , they too were included via The Spirit of adoption into God's Family without having to subscribe to those " ordinances " which were once designed , by default , to exclude them ; things such as circumcision , dietary laws , observance of certain signs / days . Paul certainly didn't mean Gentile believers were free to lie , steal , covet , hate , defraud , extort , fornicate , etc . with impunity !

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
<-----> Colossians 2:13-17

May The Lord Be Pleased to Bless & Affirm !

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Greetings all ,

It appears that the context of that which was " nailed to the cross " , is referring to the things which The Lord distinctly commanded Israel for the sake of being distinguished from all other nations , seeing how Paul was writing to the uncircumcised ( Gentiles ) , and affirming to them that though Christ and His Atoning Sacrifice , they too were included via The Spirit of adoption into God's Family without having to subscribe to those " ordinances " which were once designed , by default , to exclude them ; things such as circumcision , dietary laws , observance of certain signs / days . Paul certainly didn't mean Gentile believers were free to lie , steal , covet , hate , defraud , extort , fornicate , etc . with impunity !

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
<-----> Colossians 2:13-17

May The Lord Be Pleased to Bless & Affirm !

wm

Handwriting of Ordinances, and written code literally mean Religious Dogma. It is described that those are a curse, now to say that the commandments of G-d are a curse would be to say that he is.

We can see that in now way does he want us to stop being separate, we know this because he calls us to be holy (separate) After all how would we be a light to the world if were just like the rest of the world, they would have nothing to look forward to, they would have no way of being separate.

Because of this misunderstanding, many have adopted the pagan holidays prescribed by Constantines mithraism which even unbelievers celebrate.
 
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Handwriting of Ordinances, and written code literally mean Religious Dogma. It is described that those are a curse, now to say that the commandments of G-d are a curse would be to say that he is.

We can see that in now way does he want us to stop being separate, we know this because he calls us to be holy (separate) After all how would we be a light to the world if were just like the rest of the world, they would have nothing to look forward to, they would have no way of being separate.

Because of this misunderstanding, many have adopted the pagan holidays prescribed by Constantines mithraism which even unbelievers celebrate.

Hi unkern ,

My statements were based on the evidentiary procession of Scripture , for after Paul declares that Christ blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that were against us , he follows up with -

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: <-----> Colossians 2:16

Which indicates the nature of the ordinances which he refers to immediately prior to that qualifying elaboration .

Again to continue this theme , Paul also wrote -

Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
For one believes that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eats herbs.
Let not him that eats despise him that eats not; and let not him which eats not judge him that eats: for God hath received him.
Who art thou that judges another man's servant? to his own master he stands or falls. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
He that regards the day, regards it unto the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks.
For none of us lives to himself, and no man dies to himself.
<-----> Romans 14:1-7


handwriting - translated from the Greek -

G5498
&#967;&#949;&#953;&#961;&#959;&#769;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#966;&#959;&#957;
cheirographon
khi-rog'-raf-on
Neuter of a compound of G5495 and G1125; something hand written (“chirograph”), that is, a manuscript (specifically a legal document or bond (figuratively)): - handwriting.

ordinances - From the Greek word -

G1378
&#948;&#959;&#769;&#947;&#956;&#945;
dogma
dog'-mah
From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Taken together the definition of these two Greek words = handwritten law , decree , or ordinance .

More modern definitions of the now English word dogma sometimes contain derogatory overtones ... such as -

" a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof "

" a positive, arrogant assertion of opinion "

Jesus declared -

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
<-----> Matthew 5:38+39

So does this means the following should be considered " religious dogma " ?

And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. <-----> Deuteronomy 19:21

Christ also proclaimed -

It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery.
<-----> Matthew 5:31+32

So then is the following also merely " religious dogma " ?

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. <-----> Deuteronomy 24:1

Again The Lord explained -

And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was hungry, he, and they that were with him?
How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
<-----> Mark 2:23-28

Does this mean the following also now qualifies as handwritten " religious dogma " ?

Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defiles it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever does any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. <-----> Exodus 31:14

When The New Testament conveys a different emphasis than The Old , it makes good sense to prefer the more current writing ... does it not ?!

( See Hebrews Chapter 7 )

May The Lord Be Pleased to Bless !

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Hi unkern ,

My statements were based on the evidentiary procession of Scripture , for after Paul declares that Christ blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that were against us , he follows up with -

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: <-----> Colossians 2:16

Which indicates the nature of the ordinances which he refers to immediately prior to that qualifying elaboration .

Again to continue this theme , Paul also wrote -

Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
For one believes that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eats herbs.
Let not him that eats despise him that eats not; and let not him which eats not judge him that eats: for God hath received him.
Who art thou that judges another man's servant? to his own master he stands or falls. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
He that regards the day, regards it unto the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks.
For none of us lives to himself, and no man dies to himself.
<-----> Romans 14:1-7


handwriting - translated from the Greek -

G5498
&#967;&#949;&#953;&#961;&#959;&#769;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#966;&#959;&#957;
cheirographon
khi-rog'-raf-on
Neuter of a compound of G5495 and G1125; something hand written (“chirograph”), that is, a manuscript (specifically a legal document or bond (figuratively)): - handwriting.

ordinances - From the Greek word -

G1378
&#948;&#959;&#769;&#947;&#956;&#945;
dogma
dog'-mah
From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Taken together the definition of these two Greek words = handwritten law , decree , or ordinance .

More modern definitions of the now English word dogma sometimes contain derogatory overtones ... such as -

" a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof "

" a positive, arrogant assertion of opinion "

Jesus declared -

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
<-----> Matthew 5:38+39

So does this means the following should be considered " religious dogma " ?

And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. <-----> Deuteronomy 19:21

Christ also proclaimed -

It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery.
<-----> Matthew 5:31+32

So then is the following also merely " religious dogma " ?

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. <-----> Deuteronomy 24:1

Again The Lord explained -

And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was hungry, he, and they that were with him?
How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
<-----> Mark 2:23-28

Does this mean the following also now qualifies as handwritten " religious dogma " ?

Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defiles it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever does any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. <-----> Exodus 31:14

When The New Testament conveys a different emphasis than The Old , it makes good sense to prefer the more current writing ... does it not ?!

( See Hebrews Chapter 7 )

May The Lord Be Pleased to Bless !

wm

two things I want to point out to you in Col 2:16 it uses the word meat or food as the greek word Broma which is a definition as ritually clean or unclean and you'll notice "in respect to a holy day" respect being very important and holy also being very important as show that we are expected to show it holy.

Romans 14 is talking about veganism

You'll notice g1378 is also the main word Dogma.

Matthew 5:38-39: is not dogma, it is however a chance for us to show the Rabbi's up and defame them, even though we are still allowed to do the same back, just like the woman at the well, she should be stoned but if no viable (without sin) witnessess are there you cannot do it.

Matthew 5:31-32: he is asking us to spare her from becoming and adulteress, but we still have that right to divorce.

Mark 2:23: is not Dogma either, it wasnt against Torah, it was against Rabbinic law

Something I want you to see from Exodus is that some still do get diseased and die, but some do not live by the penalty of the law because it was executed in the flesh and is not present in spirit.

Read all of Isaiah 66 and Matthew 5:17-20.

If the Torah was nailed to the cross than that would mean the law is abolished. But what did Messiah say?
 
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Romans 3:21
21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:30
30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Faith is a law, it is a working grace, wherever it's in truth. By faith, not in the matter an act of obedience, or a good work, but forming the relation between Christ and the sinner, being proper that the believer should be pardoned and justified for the sake of the Saviour, and that the unbeliever who is not thus united or related to him, should remain under condemnation. The law is still of use to convince us of what is past, and to direct us for the future. Though we can't be saved by it as a covenant, yet we own and submit to it, as a rule in the hand of the Mediator.
What is the law but a set of traditions set down as a pattern of the better things to come, and like it or not we all must follow the pattern to acquire the knowledge of the will of God in the proper conduct of our lives; the government of our lives in fellowship with Him. If the holy days are conducive to a close relationship or a pattern of eating then begrudge that of nobody. But in your walk with God be very careful of the motives that you place on ordinances, for what your conscience allows you are held responsible for, just as in the law. Not for the matter of salvation but as pertains to future rewards. To worship in spirit and truth of the higher calling, bypassing the old wine to drink of the new, is to enjoy kingdom now as seated along with Him, not as servants to the earthly life.
 
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A thief will not foolishly steal knowingly in presence of the police. But many Christians will sin and disobey in the presence of God. Why is that?
^_^ because they are immature. Babies will hold their hands over their eyes and think no one can see them in much the same way.
 
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The simple truth is that Christians look at sin from the wrong point of view. It's not an act of disobedience when the indwelling sin is doing it's thing and the spirit has already acknowledged the wrong associated with it. If the spirit of regenerated mankind dwells with the HS then it's above that which takes place on the earth. The death that we carry around with us, if we are saved, doesn't go unacknowledged. If it does then that person isn't born again into a new creation. With the acknowledgement (the throne of grace) comes mercy. What most Christians don't do is separate themselves from sins. Those sins will carry on until the age of grace is over, so when it happens ignor it and carry on. If there's no bad motives and nothing to feel guilty about then why moop around condemning yourself. Pick up your cross and carry on.
Everything is done in the sight of God, if we didn't need to rise above it then that wouldn't have been provided. imo that's being saved out of sin.
 
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two things I want to point out to you in Col 2:16 it uses the word meat or food as the greek word Broma which is a definition as ritually clean or unclean and you'll notice "in respect to a holy day" respect being very important and holy also being very important as show that we are expected to show it holy.

Hi unkern , and all ,

I was aware of the old English usage of the word " meat " as meaning food in general . So basically , Paul was saying - " Let no man judge you in food and drink " . Where he wrote , " or in respect of a holy day " , the word respect here is being used to say - on behalf of ; not in reverence of . From the Greek -

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From an obsolete but more primary form of &#956;&#949;&#953;&#769;&#961;&#959;&#956;&#945;&#953; meiromai (to get as a section or allotment); a division or share (literally or figuratively, in a wide application): - behalf, coast, course, craft, particular (+ -ly), part (+ -ly), piece, portion, respect, side, some sort (-what).

In other words , Let no man judge you in food , drink or regarding the observance / non observance of holy days .

Romans 14 is talking about veganism

Which the passage from Romans 14 agrees ... it addresses not only the choice of vegetarianism , but also being omnivorous , " eating all things " . Also it describes some as esteeming certain days above others , and others esteeming every day alike , and that this is a matter of our own persuasion , one we should not be judged or despised over . And this theme is repeated several more times in The New Testament .

In Acts Ch. 10 , Peter had a vision in which The Lord instructed him not to think of others as being unclean because they ate differently .

In Galatians Ch. 2 , Paul rebuked Peter for fearfully withdrawing from eating with Gentiles , when other Jews arrived .

To those in Corinth Paul wrote -

Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:
For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.
<-----> 1st Corinthians 10:25+26

To Timothy ( who was half Jew / half Greek ) Paul wrote -

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
<-----> 1stTimothy 4:4+5

This echos Jesus' declaration -

Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man. <-----> Matthew 15:11

And again -

Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them.... <---> 1st Corinthians 6:13

This is not to say we should eat foolishly , or live irreverently ; it is to say that our choice of physical food or persuasion of esteeming days is not the big religious issue , some seem bent on trying to make it .


Matthew 5:38-39: is not dogma, it is however a chance for us to show the Rabbi's up and defame them, even though we are still allowed to do the same back, just like the woman at the well, she should be stoned but if no viable (without sin) witnessess are there you cannot do it.

Matthew 5:31-32: he is asking us to spare her from becoming and adulteress, but we still have that right to divorce.

Mark 2:23: is not Dogma either, it wasnt against Torah, it was against Rabbinic law

Oddly , my questioning of New vs. Old was not to suggest that the New was akin to " religious dogma " ... but rather that , some of the old is - As it is written :

The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
<-----> Matthew 19:3-8


If the Torah was nailed to the cross than that would mean the law is abolished. But what did Messiah say?

Galatians Ch. 3 spells it out rather well . Link to Galatians Chapter 3

As does Acts Chapter 15 . Link to Acts Chapter 15

It is the spirit of the law , which we are compelled from within to now follow . And not the letter of the law via external pressure .

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he lives?
For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
<-----> Romans 7:1-6

So now , instead of being dictated to by words set in stone , we have the opportunity to learn to walk in Christ's Spirit , where God writes His commands upon our hearts , so that we are transformed from within , which allows for a new and better way , where obedience is not an effort to comply that is born out of a sense of necessity or obligation ( mistakenly thinking we can unfailingly measure up); but where obedience comes from being won over through receiving the undeserved abundance of mercy , goodness , kindness , + love , which inspires us to embrace being likeminded with Christ , in the Spirit of Grace .

For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. <-----> Hebrews 7:19


For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.
<-----> Hebrews 8:7-13

Thankyou Lord Jesus !

wm
 
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