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Quoting sentence fragments is far less persuasive than you think it is.
Yikes, good grief. What nonsense.His first evidence is that words exist?
Really?Then noticing that something exists: therefore God?
The height of ignorance.And the human genome is the longest word in the world? That’s ridiculous.
(Sorry Lennox. Not all physicists think "fine tuning" is that remarkable, or even present.)Then he just goes on about fine tuning? Arguments from incredulity?
Who ever heard of a narrow minded scientist? I thought it was scientists job to discover new truths. You don't do that by being narrow minded.
I don't really care. I'm not in your religion, so I don't care who gets labeled as a heretic or not.Chuck Missler is no heretic.
There's a lot of talk about string theory in that article. String theory has contributed nothing useful to physics in 40 years. At this point it's mostly just an annoyance now.The article that Chuck refrenced in the video is from Scientific American June 2005 and that was wrotten by two scientist guys. A blurb:
/"The constants are a tantalizing mystery. Every equation of physics is filled with them, and they seem so prosaic that people tend to forget how unaccountable their values are. Their origin is bound up with some of the grandest questions of modern science, from the unification of physics to the expansion of the universe. They may be the superficial shadow of a structure larger and more complex than the three-dimensional universe we witness around us. Determining whether constants are truly constant is only the first step on a path that leads to a deeper and wider appreciation of that ultimate vista.../(Scientific American June 2005)
Physics isn't a religion. It doesn't have "heretics".Are these guys heretics also?!
The electric universe is pseudoscience. It has nothing to do with tiny variations in the physical constants.There's even stuff to play with in the article for our Math Whiz. So...Psuedo Science? Really?
And why would that matter? SciAm is not the primary literature. It is a popular science publication for the masses.Has Hans been published in Scentific American?
Real *old* science. Just because some preacher talked about it in a talk to the OathKeepers long ago doesn't make it useful. It just demonstrates he is grasping for scientific support (such as it is) for his religious worldview. It's to badThis is real science, not something I made up. Or Chuck Missler! You have no clue.
Congratulations you have single handedly destroyed Missler's video by showing he has contradicted himself by referring to the Scientific American article.Chuck Missler is no heretic. The article that Chuck refrenced in the video is from Scientific American June 2005 and that was wrotten by two scientist guys. A blurb:
/"The constants are a tantalizing mystery. Every equation of physics is filled with them, and they seem so prosaic that people tend to forget how unaccountable their values are. Their origin is bound up with some of the grandest questions of modern science, from the unification of physics to the expansion of the universe. They may be the superficial shadow of a structure larger and more complex than the three-dimensional universe we witness around us. Determining whether constants are truly constant is only the first step on a path that leads to a deeper and wider appreciation of that ultimate vista.../(Scientific American June 2005)
Are these guys heretics also?!
There's even stuff to play with in the article for our Math Whiz. So...Psuedo Science? Really? Has Hans been published in Scentific American? This is real science, not something I made up. Or Chuck Missler! You have no clue.
In the video Missler states around the 17 minute mark onwards astronomers and mathematicians apparently don’t know the electromagnetic force is 10³⁶X greater than gravity and is therefore the dominant force in the universe including at cosmic scales.Variation in α of a few parts per million should have a completely negligible effect on the expansion of the universe. That is because electromagnetism is much weaker than gravity on cosmic scales.
Apart from the glaring contradiction is the sheer nonsense to think the article in anyway supports creationism.(4) Electromagnetic forces are “10³⁶" times greater than gravitational forces, doesn’t take into consideration is that electromagnetic forces are screened by a mechanism known as Debye shielding.
The visible matter in the universe in the intergalactic medium is composed of plasma at a number density of 1 nₑ(m⁻³) which screens the electromagnetic force and greatly reduces its range force down to around 10⁵ m which is insignificant at cosmological scales.
I don't really care. I'm not in your religion, so I don't care who gets labeled as a heretic or not.
There's a lot of talk about string theory in that article. String theory has contributed nothing useful to physics in 40 years. At this point it's mostly just an annoyance now.
The variation of physical constants discussed in the SciAm article is at best very small and very slow. A review of the more recent literature (this is a nearly 20 year old SciAm article based on 20-year-old scientific results), shows that there has been no definitive measurement of change and the error bars remain consistent with no change at all.
Physics isn't a religion. It doesn't have "heretics".
The electric universe is pseudoscience. It has nothing to do with tiny variations in the physical constants.
And why would that matter? SciAm is not the primary literature. It is a popular science publication for the masses.
Real *old* science. Just because some preacher talked about it in a talk to the OathKeepers long ago doesn't make it useful. It just demonstrates he is grasping for scientific support (such as it is) for his religious worldview. It's to bad
The electric universe is pseudoscience. It has nothing to do with tiny variations in the physical constants.
I've read electric universe materials. I've watched their videos. It's all bunk.How would you even know?
You appaently do not have the knowledge to refute the science put forward scientiffically, or else you scientist would have.
[why-not-both.gif]Why are you more like a troll and less like a scientist?
I'm not paid to post here.That's not very professional, Professor.
It depends. If a colleague put forth the electric universe I would first ask if they were pulling my leg, but if they insisted on it, well. I would admonish them for falling for such obvious garbage and insert a few choice expletives and comments on their reasoning skills. (Face it, it would be well deserved.)Are you like that to your collegues also?
Wrong on all three counts. I'm still fully active in physics and I've never been married.I think you're retired, divorced and used to be in it.
It is pseudoscience that I despise because it damages the thing that I love -- actual science. You should really stop this psycho analysis. You are getting it all wrong.So you sit alone and lash out towards science since they prolly screwed you on your way out.
Your god doesn't interest me. I am not angry at the non-existent. (The Church on the other hand...)Oh and God, for some reason you seem angry at God. Not very much fun to talk to.
Your god doesn't interest me. I am not angry at the non-existent. (The Church on the other hand...)
Your god doesn't interest me. I am not angry at the non-existent. (The Church on the other hand...)
I hate the way The Church teaches its members that it alone has the path to salvation.So what are you mad at the church for?
I already told you. I am at CF for the pseudoscience take-downs. Especially that electric universe fantasy.Is that why your here?
I hang out on a science, politics, and current events discussion board run by Christians that also has a whole bunch of sections I've never even tried reading. (None of which I can participate in.) Those parts don't interest me in the slightest. I do like the smaller nature of this site and broad discussions over some of the larger venues or more focused ones. CF is the weird place where I am forced to make a selection about my religious preference. I chose to be honest in my total non-belief. What I get for that choice is Christians making assumptions about me and attacking me for my non-belief when it is completely unrelated to the topic of the thread or post.I've often wondered why do Atheists like to hang out on the Christian boards?
[Snip] I don't do bible, and definitely not that poor translation.Taking out some anger on the Christians are you? Is it because we speak the truth? Here's a truth for you right out of the Bible:
Stop with the psychoanalysis, your just dodging the questions on the electric universe fraud. (And it would be odd to be angry at what one does not believe exists.)Ok now wer're getting somewhere. You are angry at God.
I already told you. I am at CF for the pseudoscience take-downs. Especially that electric universe fantasy.
just dodging the questions
So you're just here to be a troublemaker. And you refuse to academically refute anything, makes sense.
So why would a scientist spend his off time insulting Chritians and their faith? Busniess must be slow for you. Nothing more than a troll who is not worth talking to.
I don't insult your faith, I just don't care about it. It means nothing to me.
Do you want to discuss the claims of the electric simulation thing or do you even understand it?
We're done until you want to post something scientific. On this thread that would be related to the electric universe/simulation notion of the thread title.Haha, that's funny. A little while ago you said it was too involved and you dont want to do it.
I believe that...if you really didn't care about my faith, you wouldn't be so obnoxious. You're angry and are admittedly here to cause trouble for Christians. That's pretty lame buddy. I'm starting to doubt that you are a real scientist. From your words.
We're done until you want to post something scientific. On this thread that would be related to the electric universe/simulation notion of the thread title.
We're done until you want to post something scientific.
Hardly. Now where is the evidence if it is true?It's already been proven now that we live in an electrial smulatton.
You are a silly little man with a big chip on your shoulder with your personal attacks on individuals whose only fault is to be more educated and knowledgeable on the science than you can ever possibly hope to be.One down maybe 3 to go, lol.
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