'We Have The Votes': The Senate Will Act This Week To Codify Same-Sex Marriage

[essentialsaltes]

There had been some action on this before the election, but now that GOP senators are free to vote their conscience, it looks like at least 10 of them will join the Democrats in making SSM the law of the land, assuming this report is accurate.

Same-sex marriage has been legal nationwide since 2015, when the Supreme Court ruled that same-sex couples are guaranteed the fundamental right to marry under the Constitution. But after the now-conservative court struck down Roe v. Wade in June ― tossing out nearly 50 years of precedent on reproductive rights ― Democrats and some Republicans are anxious about the court’s plans for weakening other civil rights.

And because the Senate plans to take the House bill [passed in July] and simply amend it, versus senators introducing an entirely new bill, the House only has to vote to accept the changes to their bill versus starting the process over again.

All 50 Democratic senators have said they’d support legislation to codify same-sex marriage. That means the Senate bill needs at least 10 Republicans to support it, too, in order to overcome a filibuster. So who are they?

So far, the only GOP senators saying anything about this week’s forthcoming bill are the three who are in the bipartisan group that helped get a deal on the bill in the first place: Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Thom Tillis (N.C.).

 

[SimplyMe]

To be fair, it only says that legal same-sex marriages will be recognized by the federal government and that states, under the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution, should also recognize any 2 people legally married. It does not prevent, should Obergefell be overturned, states from making same-sex marriage illegal. In essence, it removes DOMA from federal law (even though it is no longer binding since Obergefell) and gives all 2 person marriages similar protection under the law. For those interested in reading the bill, it is relatively short, straightforward, and easy to read.

 

[Desk trauma]

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LDS Church comes out for federal bill that recognizes same-sex marriage​

 

[essentialsaltes]

Still no hint of where the other 7 GOP yes votes are.

Still, it’s not yet certain whether Democrats have the 10 votes they need to overcome a filibuster Wednesday and get a bill through the 50-50 Senate. So far, at least three Republicans have said they would vote for the legislation and are working with Democrats to pass it: Maine Sen. Susan Collins, North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman.

Most Republicans have stayed quiet on whether they will support it, but those pushing the bill say they believe the 10 GOP votes are there. Democrats delayed consideration of the legislation until after the midterm elections, hoping that would relieve political pressure for some Republicans who might be wavering on the bill.

The new Respect for Marriage Act would also protect interracial marriages by requiring states to recognize legal marriages regardless of “sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin.”

 

[hislegacy]

Anything from a more center or reliable source?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Anything from a more center or reliable source?

LA Times article in post #4 [left-center with High Factual Reporting]

(or the original thread I can't find no more.)

 

[jayem]

Still, it’s not yet certain whether Democrats have the 10 votes they need to overcome a filibuster Wednesday and get a bill through the 50-50 Senate.

There is the “Nuclear Option.” It’s a Senate rules change that would allow a filibuster to be suspended on a specific type of bill. It only requires 51 votes. As I recall, it’s only been used twice. Once was to end debate on federal court judicial nominations.

The Senate and the Nuclear Option | Institution for Social and Policy Studies

 

[essentialsaltes]

There is the “Nuclear Option.” It’s a Senate rules change that would allow a filibuster to be suspended on a specific bill. It only requires 51 votes. As I recall, it’s only been used twice. Once was to end debate on federal court judicial nominations.

Possible, of course, but I don't see the Democrats 'going nuclear' just for gay marriage.

 

[Arcangl86]

There is the “Nuclear Option.” It’s a Senate rules change that would allow a filibuster to be suspended on a specific type of bill. It only requires 51 votes. As I recall, it’s only been used twice. Once was to end debate on federal court judicial nominations.

The Senate and the Nuclear Option | Institution for Social and Policy Studies

The Nuclear Option has never been applied to legislation, only advice and consent motions. Manchin and Sinema are both staunchly against eliminating the filibuster, even in a limited way.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Senate clears key procedural step on bill to protect same-sex marriage​

The Senate on Wednesday cleared a key procedural hurdle toward passage of the bipartisan bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage, voting 62-37 to break a filibuster to advance.

All 50 members of the Democratic caucus voted to start debate on the bill as well as 12 Republicans. The GOP senators who voted yes are:

1. Susan Collins of Maine
2. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
3. Rob Portman of Ohio
4. Mitt Romney of Utah
5. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
6. Roy Blunt of Missouri
7. Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming
8. Richard Burr of North Carolina
9. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
10. Dan Sullivan of Alaska
11. Joni Ernst of Iowa
12. Todd Young of Indiana

Looks like we'll have a bipartisan bill signed after the Thanksgiving recess.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Congress wasting time on problems that don't exist while ignoring real ones.

 

[Desk trauma]

Senate clears key procedural step on bill to protect same-sex marriage​

The Senate on Wednesday cleared a key procedural hurdle toward passage of the bipartisan bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage, voting 62-37 to break a filibuster to advance.

All 50 members of the Democratic caucus voted to start debate on the bill as well as 12 Republicans. The GOP senators who voted yes are:

1. Susan Collins of Maine
2. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
3. Rob Portman of Ohio
4. Mitt Romney of Utah
5. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
6. Roy Blunt of Missouri
7. Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming
8. Richard Burr of North Carolina
9. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
10. Dan Sullivan of Alaska
11. Joni Ernst of Iowa
12. Todd Young of Indiana

Looks like we'll have a bipartisan bill signed after the Thanksgiving recess.

A rare moment where my senators pop up in the news and don't result in a head ache, nice.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Congress wasting time on problems that don't exist while ignoring real ones.

Yesterday the Senate spent its floor time confirming a federal judge nominated by the president. That's what is alternatively on their schedule.

The Congress is also considering in the last 6 weeks that it meets (before the new one in January):

1. The annual "National Defense Authorization Act"
2. The FY23 budget
3. The Electoral Count Act reform legislation

and may consider:

4. a debt ceiling extension
5. supplemental military aid for Ukraine (might end up in #2, or #1)

 

[KCfromNC]

Congress wasting time on problems that don't exist while ignoring real ones.

The court has said they're hoping to visit the issue as soon as they can. Don't blame Congress for taking time to address the will of their constituents in the face of unelected activist judges.

 

[Desk trauma]

The court has said they're hoping to visit the issue as soon as they can. Don't blame Congress for taking time to address the will of their constituents in the face of unelected activist judges.

Tut, tut, you should know that line was retired when the conservatives got a majority on the court. Now it's the vile legislators subverting the will of the judges.

 

[Nithavela]

Nice to know what the next natural disaster will be blamed on.

 

[Desk trauma]

Nice to know what the next natural disaster will be blamed on.

Unless it hits Florida or the mid west.

 

[Nithavela]

Tut, tut, you should know that line was retired when the conservatives got a majority on the court. Now it's the vile legislators subverting the will of the judges.

You of course mean "the will of the founding fathers, as interpreted by their blessed prophets, the supreme court judges".

 

[Desk trauma]

You of course mean "the will of the founding fathers, as interpreted by their blessed prophets, the supreme court judges".

Of course, how silly of me, mea culpa.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Congress wasting time on problems that don't exist while ignoring real ones.

Yeah, they need to get back to being busy investigating Trump.