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We can't reverse manmade climate change.
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<blockquote data-quote="FrumiousBandersnatch" data-source="post: 73786105" data-attributes="member: 241055"><p>Not necessarily; the stats say it's a long-term trend.</p><p></p><p>The stats show an obvious downward trend.</p><p></p><p>I don't think an intelligent person would expect violent crime to fall to zero (short of humans going extinct).</p><p></p><p>The Eisner paper is considered the 'go-to' aggregation of historical sources; which of his data sources do you not think trustworthy - all of them? There are other sources, Ted R. Gurr's <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1147382" target="_blank">Historical Trends in Violent Crime</a>, or on more recent times: <a href="https://www.brennancenter.org/publication/crime-trends1990-2016" target="_blank">Violent crime in the U.S. over the past 25 years</a>. Here's one on homicides with <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/homicides" target="_blank">data from Eisner and other sources</a>.</p><p></p><p>What principle is that? The data is what it is. </p><p></p><p>Oh, wait... maybe Eisner and his sources, Pinker and his sources, national record gatherers in countries around the world, the FBI, the Bureau of Justice, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, are in a giant conspiracy to fake a decline in violence! <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/doh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":doh:" title="doh :doh:" data-shortname=":doh:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrumiousBandersnatch, post: 73786105, member: 241055"] Not necessarily; the stats say it's a long-term trend. The stats show an obvious downward trend. I don't think an intelligent person would expect violent crime to fall to zero (short of humans going extinct). The Eisner paper is considered the 'go-to' aggregation of historical sources; which of his data sources do you not think trustworthy - all of them? There are other sources, Ted R. Gurr's [URL='https://www.jstor.org/stable/1147382']Historical Trends in Violent Crime[/URL], or on more recent times: [URL='https://www.brennancenter.org/publication/crime-trends1990-2016']Violent crime in the U.S. over the past 25 years[/URL]. Here's one on homicides with [URL='https://ourworldindata.org/homicides']data from Eisner and other sources[/URL]. What principle is that? The data is what it is. Oh, wait... maybe Eisner and his sources, Pinker and his sources, national record gatherers in countries around the world, the FBI, the Bureau of Justice, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, are in a giant conspiracy to fake a decline in violence! :doh: [/QUOTE]
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