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Predetermination...

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  • ...provokes the Devil to fear us, even before he sees us

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  • ...binds in scripture, releases in Word

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  • ...characterizes the Holy Spirit, in us

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  • ...renews the spirit, strengthens knowledge of scripture

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  • ...empowers the Work of God, in us

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  • ...delays the enemy in coming to us

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  • ...raises the Cross and us on it, in the end

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  • ...develops more than the old life, can contain

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Gottservant

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Hi there,

So yes, it took me a long time to get perspective behind Jim Brown's much vaunted concept of "predeterminism" - the idea that our steps are ordered by God - and having finally got that perspective, I wanted to share with you how to progress through it. It starts with accepting that God has predetermined us.

Once you have accepted that God has predetermined us, you start to become aware that the Devil has not agreed, with your predetermination - for this you need intercession from the Holy Spirit. In other words, as long as you keep the Devil from knowing why you are happy to be predetermined, he will continue to be against you. But the Holy Spirit will deliver you. The second step is to acknowledge that all of your brothers and sisters in Christ, are predetermined too. Now there may be some shock, denial or confusion here, because some of the brethren sleep, in one way or the other, and they may not have been ready to hear from the Holy Spirit in this way: but the fact remains the same "it is appointed to man once to die and after that the judgment" (from memory, letters) - you cannot simply pick and choose when your predetermination will matter, as far as God is concerned, it has mattered already ("He calls things that were not, as though they were" again from memory, letters). In time the Holy Spirit will speak to them, so it is no great concern that they are slow to wake up.

The third step is to intercede in the Spirit or ask the Holy Spirit to intercede, for the whole of us, to be predetermined as One. This is a big ask, since it requires the knowledge of God, to be done in faith, effectively, not only for ourselves, but for everyone that has even just begun to have faith. The promise however is great, for together we can put the Devil to flight, that the whole Earth begin to be free of his coming and going. Sin will subside. Righteousness will begin to be recognized ahead of time. There is power in this! So it is that as the Bible said "we will be known, as we know ourselves" (from memory, letters). Our relationship with God, will be one predetermination, from now to eternity.

This is in principle the revealing of the Sons of God, from among the sons of men. Our predetermination being known as One for God. The law of God, will be emblazoned on our hearts, our Spirit for God being known as One in being One for God. We will develop spiritual character - our enemies will have dreams and visions of us, being One with God. Between us, our predetermination will be greater and much greater, as we each help each other in the Spirit of the Law, for the Glory of God. The Holy Spirit will be empowered through us, to speak to the nations - fear will cease, pain will dull and choice will be prophesied. There will be a coming time of celebration as God brings all things to an end, through Jesus Christ, in the Holy Spirit.

The Devil's hate, be nothing; Hell and Death stand aside for the Coming of the King.