• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Watching Horror Movies

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
What concerns me is the stuff that happens to the cast of scary movies.

The Exorcist
The Exorcist is probably the most well-known "cursed" film of all time — and with good reason.

The 1973 flick famously follows the demonic possession of a little girl, but its horror-story production has become as legendarily scary as the movie itself.


Max Von Sydow's brother died on the first day of filming - one of many deaths associated with the filmCredit: Kobal Collection - Shutterstock
A freak fire burned down the set being used as the family home at the heart of the story when a bird flew into a circuit box.

In a creepy twist, the only part to survive the blaze was the bedroom where the exorcisms are performed in the film.

The crew even called in a real Jesuit priest, Thomas M. King, to bless the set after the incident.

But arguably the biggest reason people believe the film is cursed is the number of chilling deaths associated with its cast.

Jack MacGowran and Vasiliki Maliaros, two actors whose characters die in The Exorcist, both died in real life soon after filming was finished.


Jason Miller, right, narrowly cheated death when he was struck by a motorcycle during the making of the filmCredit: Kobal Collection - Shutterstock
And even the stars were affected — Linda Blair's grandfather died during the shoot and Max Von Sydow's brother died the first day Max was on set.

Jason Miller, who played Father Damien Karras, had a brush with death too when he was hit by a motorbike during filming.

The Omen
Just two years after the nightmare of The Exorcist, filming began on The Omen.

The film follows the nightmare of Damien Thorn — an adopted boy who turns out to be the antichrist.


Harvey Spencer Stephens in The Omen (1976) - his antichrist character, Damien, became an icon of horror cinemaCredit: Alamy
Claims the film was "cursed" began two months before filming began in 1975 when lead actor Gregory Peck's son, Jonathan, shot himself dead.

His plane was then struck by lightning, which is an unfortunate and unlikely occurrence in itself.

But then executive producer Mace Neufeld’s plane was also struck in a completely separate incident during filming.

They'd also planned to hire a plane for aerial shots in Israel, but the airline switched the planes at the last minute.

That proved to be a lucky escape, as the original plane crashed on takeoff soon after, killing everyone on board.

But the chilling incident that really cemented The Omen's cursed reputation came in a horrific accident after filming wrapped.


Gregory Peck in The Omen's famous decapitation scene - which would have a horrific real-world recreation in the same year the film was releasedCredit: Alamy
Special effects designer John Richardson, who designed the famous decapitation scene, was in a car crash while sculptor Liz Moore was in the passenger seat.

Richardson survived the smash, but Moore was decapitated.

He even claimed that when he stumbled out of the car, he noticed a road sign saying he was 66.6 kilometres away from the town of Ommen.

The crash took place on 13th August 1976... Friday the 13th.

Poltergeist
Poltergeist (1982) follows the story of a family home being overrun with evil spirits seeking to abduct their young daughter.

The supernatural horror was accused of being cursed as revenge for the film's inclusion of real human remains.


Poltergeist (1982) - Heather O'Rourke stars as a young girl being lured by malevolent ghostsCredit: Alamy
In one scene, the actress JoBeth Williams is dragged into her family's swimming pool.

As she tries to get out, she bumps into decaying corpses and skeletons.

"I assumed that they were prop skeletons made out of plastic or rubber," Williams said.

"I found out — as did the whole crew — that they were using real skeletons, because it’s far too expensive to make fake skeletons out of rubber."


JoBeth Williams spent days filming in a muddy pool filled with real human skeletons that she didn't know were real until afterwardsCredit: Alamy
There were several disturbing deaths associated with the movie — including that of Heather O'Rourke, who delivered the film's most quoted line: "They're here!"

She shockingly died in 1988 aged 12 after suffering cardiac arrest and septic shock.

And 22-year-old Dominique Dunne, who played O'Rourke's character's older sister, was strangled to death by her ex-boyfriend just four months after the film was released.

Many years later, in 2009, Poltergeist actor Lou Perryman was hacked to death with an axe by an ex-convict who stole his car.


Heather O'Rourke died suddenly at the age of 12 after starring in Poltergeist IIICredit: Alamy
The Crow
The Crow (1994) was supposed to be the film that would be the big break for Bruce Lee's son, Brandon.

But Brandon was infamously killed in one of Hollywood's most notorious on-set freak accidents.

The 28-year-old plays a murdered rock musician who returns from the dead to avenge the rape and killing of his fiancée as well as his own slaying.


Brandon Lee starring in The Crow (1994), the movie in which he was tragically killed during filmingCredit: Alamy
Just over a week before the film was finished, Brandon was involved in a scene where another actor had to fire blanks at him from a .44 Magnum.

A dummy bullet from a previous scene was lodged in the barrel of the prop gun without anyone realising.

When the blank round was fired at Brandon, it shot the dummy bullet at him with virtually the same speed as a live round.

Brandon was hit in the abdomen and, despite six hours of emergency surgery, Brandon died on the operating table.

But Brandon's death wasn't the only terrifying accident on set.


Brandon Lee's death was one of several disturbing accidents on the set of The CrowCredit: Alamy
On the first day of shooting, an electrician on a cherry-picker hit power lines and caught on fire.

He survived, but suffered third degree burns and his ears had to be removed.

Shortly after, a hurricane destroyed The Crow's backlot.

With Brandon's family's permission, the film was ultimately finished with a rewritten script and CGI — but it's considered one of the most cursed movies of all time to this day.
I’ve watched cursed films 1 and 2. Ultimately everything had to do with either personal mistakes someone made or just coincidence. You can find things that went wrong with tons of films. None of it has to do with actual supernatural curses though. No more than the same bad stuff that happens to billions of people a year.
 
Upvote 0

Jermayn

Well-Known Member
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Site Supporter
May 22, 2019
1,255
659
Northwest Florida
✟190,146.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Do you think its ok for a Christian to watch Horror films?
I do sometimes in the knowledge that they are not real but there was on that made me scared of satan, Hereditary. It explored the occult and for the first time ever I felt genuinley scared of satan even though I knew God was with me. It got to some points where I had to avoid looking at occult images and cover my ears to block out the chants that were appearing on screen.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that are there some films a good Chrisitian should never watch and are there some that ok? Let me know your opinions

Take care and God bless

How does horror movies benefit you or your walk with Christ? If movies were available 2000+ years ago, would Jesus be caught watching horror films? If it has no benefit, and in this case negatively affects you, the just get rid of it from your life because it is just a distraction. As far as if it's a sin or not, I feel that's really a matter or whether you're feeling convicted of it. The fact that you're asking the question is probably a sign that the Holy Spirit is trying to move you away from something that is offensive and ultimately damaging to your relationship with him.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Skye1300
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
How does horror movies benefit you or your walk with Christ? If movies were available 2000+ years ago, would Jesus be caught watching horror films? If it has no benefit, and in this case negatively affects you, the just get rid of it from your life because it is just a distraction. As far as if it's a sin or not, I feel that's really a matter or whether you're feeling convicted of it. The fact that you're asking the question is probably a sign that the Holy Spirit is trying to move you away from something that is offensive and ultimately damaging to your relationship with him.

while horror movies, along with any movie, was not around then there as horror stories and Jesus would have definitely read them. Jesus was just as human as us. He was not this robot void of personal experiences and preferences. He would have had favorite food, drink, biblical and non biblical stories. He even would have recognized who he thought was the prettiest local girl. What he did not do is sin.

so how would I know he most likely read horror stories? Well for one he used Greek references that often showcased horror elements. He read the Tanakh which was full of horror and fantasy. Psalms 74 is a battle between Yahweh and a muktiheaded dragon.

now what the OP is probably not feeling is conviction of the Holy Spirit. What they are feeling is most likely personal preferences and typical “ satanic panic “ often used as propaganda by the church. She’s probably feeling guilty in the same way some women feel guilty over lipstick or swimming suits. Their immediate congregation and Christians that dominate their lives are peer pressuring the through moral gate keeping they made up.

when I was 20 and started wearing T shirts and shorts to church I felt guilty for a while. I let guilty because I was being told by others it was the Holy Spirit wanting me to wear suits. That if I dress up for interviews and meeting clients then surely I love God enough to dress my best. However, as I matured I realized that’s all a lie.

Horror, not even occult horror is evil. If it was then so would similar stories in the Bible. Just like Harry Potter and Star Wars is not evil.
So while we have to heed our personal convictions we also have to examine the to make sure they are actually our own convictions and not simply the byproduct of cultural brainwashing based on personal preferences of others.
 
Upvote 0

Jermayn

Well-Known Member
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Site Supporter
May 22, 2019
1,255
659
Northwest Florida
✟190,146.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
while horror movies, along with any movie, was not around then there as horror stories and Jesus would have definitely read them. Jesus was just as human as us. He was not this robot void of personal experiences and preferences. He would have had favorite food, drink, biblical and non biblical stories. He even would have recognized who he thought was the prettiest local girl. What he did not do is sin.

so how would I know he most likely read horror stories? Well for one he used Greek references that often showcased horror elements. He read the Tanakh which was full of horror and fantasy. Psalms 74 is a battle between Yahweh and a muktiheaded dragon.

now what the OP is probably not feeling is conviction of the Holy Spirit. What they are feeling is most likely personal preferences and typical “ satanic panic “ often used as propaganda by the church. She’s probably feeling guilty in the same way some women feel guilty over lipstick or swimming suits. Their immediate congregation and Christians that dominate their lives are peer pressuring the through moral gate keeping they made up.

when I was 20 and started wearing T shirts and shorts to church I felt guilty for a while. I let guilty because I was being told by others it was the Holy Spirit wanting me to wear suits. That if I dress up for interviews and meeting clients then surely I love God enough to dress my best. However, as I matured I realized that’s all a lie.

Horror, not even occult horror is evil. If it was then so would similar stories in the Bible. Just like Harry Potter and Star Wars is not evil.
So while we have to heed our personal convictions we also have to examine the to make sure they are actually our own convictions and not simply the byproduct of cultural brainwashing based on personal preferences of others.

I could deconstruct your whole argument for watching horror, but I'll just ask you, how does it benefit your and your walk with Jesus Christ? Also, for the OP, you follow the Holy Spirits leading. Romans 3:4 states "Let GOD be true, but every man be a liar, as it is written, That thou mightiest be justified in Thy sayings and mightiest overcome when thou art judged."

1 John 4:18: There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
Why w
I could deconstruct your whole argument for watching horror, but I'll just ask you, how does it benefit your and your walk with Jesus Christ? Also, for the OP, you follow the Holy Spirits leading. Romans 3:4 states "Let GOD be true, but every man be a liar, as it is written, That thou mightiest be justified in Thy sayings and mightiest overcome when thou art judged."

1 John 4:18: There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

why does it need to benefit my walk with Jesus? That’s silly. Does hikes, reading comics, watching super hero movies, riding a bike, going to a dog park and ect have to make my walk better? Is pancakes or eggs better for your walk with Jesus?

I bet you can’t deconstruct it…. I would like to see you even actually counter it.

I’m curious in what way are you taking that verse out of context and trying to apply it as a form of counter argument?

Where in the Bible does it say that something needs to be black or white on improving faith versus what it actually says about fruit of the spirit and fruit of the flesh in how you treat others?

again, if horror is bad then so is a lot of the Bible.

also can you tell me how horror would negatively affect my ability to bear fruit of the spirit, love others, choose goodness over evil and so on?
 
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,524
20,532
29
Nebraska
✟751,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
Do you think its ok for a Christian to watch Horror films?
I do sometimes in the knowledge that they are not real but there was on that made me scared of satan, Hereditary. It explored the occult and for the first time ever I felt genuinley scared of satan even though I knew God was with me. It got to some points where I had to avoid looking at occult images and cover my ears to block out the chants that were appearing on screen.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that are there some films a good Chrisitian should never watch and are there some that ok? Let me know your opinions

Take care and God bless
It's totally up to you and your conscience. If it makes you uncomfortable and harms your relationship with God, don't watch it!

There are certain films- like The Human Centipede, Cannibal Holocaust, which I never watched and have no intention of watching. Those types of films should be avoided because they are (apparently) very grisly.

Also, if you watched some bad stuff in the past, keep in mind your brain is like a muscle. Use it or lose it. Fill the mind with good, holy things instead.

God bless
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Skye1300
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,524
20,532
29
Nebraska
✟751,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
I like horror movies or scary movies but not the kind based on reality. I like alien invasion movies and monster movies like non existent creatures type scary movies. But stuff based on sick sadistic serial killers terrorizing people or possession movies or dealing with dark evil forces, I don't like those. I don't like scary movies dealing with the devil or ghosts or spirits or movies dealing with crazy people kidnapping and torturing people. Godzilla, big foot, movies like that are fine because it's not based on reality. I also like end of world type movies like extinction level events being avoided or prevented. I have never seen The Exorcist and don't plan to. I believe just watching things like that could invite dark forces into a person's life.
Fun fact: The author of The Exorcist was a devout Catholic and the book was based on an exorcism of a Lutheran boy by a Catholic priest in the midwest.

I've seen The Exorcist multiple times, but I HATE the crucifix scene for obvious reasons.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Skye1300
Upvote 0

Jermayn

Well-Known Member
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Site Supporter
May 22, 2019
1,255
659
Northwest Florida
✟190,146.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Why w


why does it need to benefit my walk with Jesus? That’s silly. Does hikes, reading comics, watching super hero movies, riding a bike, going to a dog park and ect have to make my walk better? Is pancakes or eggs better for your walk with Jesus?

I bet you can’t deconstruct it…. I would like to see you even actually counter it.

I’m curious in what way are you taking that verse out of context and trying to apply it as a form of counter argument?

Where in the Bible does it say that something needs to be black or white on improving faith versus what it actually says about fruit of the spirit and fruit of the flesh in how you treat others?

again, if horror is bad then so is a lot of the Bible.

also can you tell me how horror would negatively affect my ability to bear fruit of the spirit, love others, choose goodness over evil and so on?

I thank and praise God when I'm able to ride my bike and walk though nature to observe the beauty he has created. I do the same when I get to enjoy some delicious pancakes and eggs. These things are great blessings we often take for granted. I don't watch or read super hero stuff either so I can't relate to those things. I can't thank God for watching someone get hacked to death with an axe or become possessed by Satan, nor does it help me in any way grow closer to him. 1 Corinthians 10:23 states: All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Maybe watching for you isn't a sin, but you're only limiting your own spiritual growth by doing so. If you want proof of that, read your own words; "if horror is bad then so is a lot of the Bible." I can assure you the morality of watching horror has no bearing whatsoever one whether the Bible is good.
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
I thank and praise God when I'm able to ride my bike and walk though nature to observe the beauty he has created. I do the same when I get to enjoy some delicious pancakes and eggs. These things are great blessings we often take for granted. I don't watch or read super hero stuff either so I can't relate to those things. I can't thank God for watching someone get hacked to death with an axe or become possessed by Satan, nor does it help me in any way grow closer to him. 1 Corinthians 10:23 states: All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. Maybe watching for you isn't a sin, but you're only limiting your own spiritual growth by doing so. If you want proof of that, read your own words; "if horror is bad then so is a lot of the Bible." I can assure you the morality of watching horror has no bearing whatsoever one whether the Bible is good.
Well I am appreciate the beauty of human creativity by watching horror and seeing us using the brains we have to do it……

again. The Bible contains a lot of writing styles. One of those styles is horror stories. From floods killing everyone, god battling multiheaded dragons, a prostitute being hacked to pieces, demons possessing peolle and snapping chains, to the horror elements used in revelation and imagery of the second death.
I mean the arguments you used can be used for anything.
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
You say it’s limiting my spiritual growth? That’s a very arrogant and ignorant statement based off of nothing but your own terrible preconceived concepts and loopy logic.

By pointing out the Bible using horror as evidence of horror not harming a person’s faith is not stunted faith but using basic logic versus statements like yours that shows spiritual immaturity.

also this is a perfect example of you so asking what my original statement was to you. It’s not based on convictions of the Holy Spirit
When someone feels bad for horror but instead it’s built off of the peer pressure of judgmental people who thinks what they like is equivalent with what God likes.
 
Upvote 0

Jermayn

Well-Known Member
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Site Supporter
May 22, 2019
1,255
659
Northwest Florida
✟190,146.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Well I am appreciate the beauty of human creativity by watching horror and seeing us using the brains we have to do it……

again. The Bible contains a lot of writing styles. One of those styles is horror stories. From floods killing everyone, god battling multiheaded dragons, a prostitute being hacked to pieces, demons possessing peolle and snapping chains, to the horror elements used in revelation and imagery of the second death.
I mean the arguments you used can be used for anything.

Watching a demonic clown bite a child's arm off is beautiful? Please explain. Also, there's two writing styles in the Bible, at least in the context we are discussing them. Things that have happened and things the will happen (prophecy). Some gruesome things happened in history and they are recorded, not for your entertainment, but because they are important for the overall message of the text they are found in. The prophetic writings refer to beasts, rivers of blood, etc. because John didn't know what Russia, America, a Tomhawk missle, or an F-35 fighter jet was.

You say it’s limiting my spiritual growth? That’s a very arrogant and ignorant statement based off of nothing but your own terrible preconceived concepts and loopy logic.

By pointing out the Bible using horror as evidence of horror not harming a person’s faith is not stunted faith but using basic logic versus statements like yours that shows spiritual immaturity.

also this is a perfect example of you so asking what my original statement was to you. It’s not based on convictions of the Holy Spirit
When someone feels bad for horror but instead it’s built off of the peer pressure of judgmental people who thinks what they like is equivalent with what God likes.

All I can say here is that I've posted quotes from the Bible to back what I've said. Also, peer preasure didn't cause the OP to develop fear of Satan, it was a horror movie.
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
Watching a demonic clown bite a child's arm off is beautiful? Please explain. Also, there's two writing styles in the Bible, at least in the context we are discussing them. Things that have happened and things the will happen (prophecy). Some gruesome things happened in history and they are recorded, not for your entertainment, but because they are important for the overall message of the text they are found in. The prophetic writings refer to beasts, rivers of blood, etc. because John didn't know what Russia, America, a Tomhawk missle, or an F-35 fighter jet was.



All I can say here is that I've posted quotes from the Bible to back what I've said. Also, peer preasure didn't cause the OP to develop fear of Satan, it was a horror movie.

None of the scriptures you’ve posted is even remotely relevant to “ is horror sinful of bad”.

How is a wolf tearing apart a baby deer beautiful? It’s part of Gods “creation”? Is the morphologically unique leaves of a pitcher plant filled with insect corpses part of gods creation?

what made the OP fear the devil over a horror movie is not verses from the Bible, it’s not the whispers of the Holy Spirit or her soul screaming out because of a red flag. It’s them feeling bad as worried because of a specific paradigm. A paradigm you are repeatedly , and perfectly, showcasing. A outlook born out of conservative self righteousness.

Now I’ve mentioned a bunch of scripture as well. I just don’t have to copy and paste or state the exact verses to somehow make it more presentable or true.

Do you know what genre is? I’ll post a definition.

” a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.”

So certain tropes , concepts and patterns used by a artist to shape the overall theme is part of what’s analyzed to understand context.

You mentioned there are two types … blah blah …. What has happened and what has not happened. Sure…. And there is also dozens of other ways to categorize scripture.

for example let’s try these verses.

Psalm 74:13-14
New American Standard Bible


13 You divided the sea by Your strength;
You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters.
14 You crushed the heads of Leviathan;
You gave him as food for the creatures of the wilderness.

That’s poetic. That’s mythological. It’s not historical and it’s not prophecy. It’s narrative is not literal. Yahweh was not like Thor battling Jörmungandr.

Its fantasy. It’s horror. It’s hyperlinking a theme. Do you know what the theme is? Chaotic waters and it’s monstrous beasts. You may or may not be up to date on the work of scholars teasing this stuff out but I’ll toss a bit in. How does this horror scene connect to the Bible?

well it begins in genesis 1 in multiple places.

“ And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.”

Now the words in Hebrew here for formless is “ tohu “ and it means chaos as in a confused unreality and “ bohu “ which means nothing ot emptiness. It’s also ancient Mesopotamian symbolism based on their understanding of cosmology. It’s a nightmare world of watery darkness that’s counterproductive to all life. This chaos is brought back up several verses later in verse 21.

“So God created the great creatures of the sea…”

in Hebrew this is again something very interesting.

The words for great sea creatures often is translated sea monsters because in Hebrew it’s “ tannin “ which means sea dragon. It’s a serpent like monster. It’s the same serpent like monster brought up in psalms 74 which means it’s about the Leviathan of Job. A giant multi headed fire breathing sea dragon. In these horror fantasies we see water, serpent and dragon used repeatedly to indicate terrifying and confusing events that should not exist.

We see the serpent like dragon with some special power mentioned many times throughout the stories.

1. the leviathan I just mentioned.
2. the serpent in the garden.
3. Even Goliath is connected to this. In 1 Samuel 17:5 Goliaths armor is described as “mail” or scale like. It’s specifically scales like a fish ( giant sea creature with scales is the hyperlink ). It’s qasqeseth. Same type of scales as for fish and snakes in the Bible. So it’s giant man covered in scales hyperlinking back to this giant sea dragon covered in scales which was a manifestation of the chaos of the sea. In genesis 1 how was the chaos of the sea overcome? By land appearing. Like a large rock ( dry land ) defeating the chaos of the water and its monsters. How was this giant scaly man defeated? By rocks ( dry land) plucked up from the water.

1 samuel 17
40 Then he took his staff in his hand and chose for himself five smooth stones from the brook, and put them in the shepherd’s bag which he had, that is, in his shepherd’s pouch, and his sling was in his hand; and he approached the Philistine.

We see this story echoing in other places as well. This water and dry land. This proto symbolism of baptism. Where the waters are murderous but we are brought safely though them. We kill our old self and are reborn like land coming up out of the oceans.

That’s why in the story of Noah’s flood we see the waters washing away evil but Yahweh preserving his chosen through the ark.

We see baby Moses placed into the dangerous crocodile infested Nile and brought safely through it all in his mini reed ark.

it’s why we see the Hebrews moving through the parted sea ( using his staff just like David picked up along with the stones ) while the sea washed away the Egyptians.

All of culminates in revelation in story of restoration. “ The sea gave up its dead “. The dragon “ old serpent “ ( serpent like dragon that makes its home in the dark wet chaotic ocean ) is tossed into a lake but this lake is not of water, it’s fire. It’s also why we we this seemingly random verse in revelation.

Revelation 21:1
New American Standard Bible
The New Heaven and Earth

21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.

“ no longer any sea “ . It’s symbolism for the end of the reign of chaos and it’s monsters.

we even see this story played out with Paul.

Acts 9:18
18 And immediately something like fish scales fell from his eyes, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized;

Paul was the enemy. He was confusion and hate and murder. But he repented and those scales feel from his eyes. He was no longer a scaly son of the serpent but a born again “ blind will see ( ehh ) “ man who was brought safely though the waters of baptism.

so we can see a lot of literary techniques used in the Bible. A lot of it touches on horror. All he stories I just shared , regardless if it’s poetry, history, symbolism, or mythological are all written as horror stories.
 
Upvote 0

Skye1300

Vegan Pro life Mom
Mar 19, 2022
1,423
861
West Coast USA
✟54,564.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Fun fact: The author of The Exorcist was a devout Catholic and the book was based on an exorcism of a Lutheran boy by a Catholic priest in the midwest.

I've seen The Exorcist multiple times, but I HATE the crucifix scene for obvious reasons.

Wow I didn't know that! So it was based off a true story? Interesting! I'm scared to ask what happened in the crucifix scene. LOL
 
Upvote 0

Skye1300

Vegan Pro life Mom
Mar 19, 2022
1,423
861
West Coast USA
✟54,564.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Well I am appreciate the beauty of human creativity by watching horror and seeing us using the brains we have to do it……

again. The Bible contains a lot of writing styles. One of those styles is horror stories. From floods killing everyone, god battling multiheaded dragons, a prostitute being hacked to pieces, demons possessing peolle and snapping chains, to the horror elements used in revelation and imagery of the second death.
I mean the arguments you used can be used for anything.

Where was a prostitute hacked to pieces in the Bible?
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
Where was a prostitute hacked to pieces in the Bible?
It’s part of the description in Ezekiel 16. There are others too. We also read of a concubine being killed by her owner after she was raped and crawled to him for help. But instead he cuts her into 12 parts in Judges 19.
 
Upvote 0

Jermayn

Well-Known Member
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Site Supporter
May 22, 2019
1,255
659
Northwest Florida
✟190,146.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
None of the scriptures you’ve posted is even remotely relevant to “ is horror sinful of bad”.

How is a wolf tearing apart a baby deer beautiful? It’s part of Gods “creation”? Is the morphologically unique leaves of a pitcher plant filled with insect corpses part of gods creation?

what made the OP fear the devil over a horror movie is not verses from the Bible, it’s not the whispers of the Holy Spirit or her soul screaming out because of a red flag. It’s them feeling bad as worried because of a specific paradigm. A paradigm you are repeatedly , and perfectly, showcasing. A outlook born out of conservative self righteousness.

Now I’ve mentioned a bunch of scripture as well. I just don’t have to copy and paste or state the exact verses to somehow make it more presentable or true.

Do you know what genre is? I’ll post a definition.

” a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.”

So certain tropes , concepts and patterns used by a artist to shape the overall theme is part of what’s analyzed to understand context.

You mentioned there are two types … blah blah …. What has happened and what has not happened. Sure…. And there is also dozens of other ways to categorize scripture.

for example let’s try these verses.

Psalm 74:13-14
New American Standard Bible


13 You divided the sea by Your strength;
You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters.
14 You crushed the heads of Leviathan;
You gave him as food for the creatures of the wilderness.

That’s poetic. That’s mythological. It’s not historical and it’s not prophecy. It’s narrative is not literal. Yahweh was not like Thor battling Jörmungandr.

Its fantasy. It’s horror. It’s hyperlinking a theme. Do you know what the theme is? Chaotic waters and it’s monstrous beasts. You may or may not be up to date on the work of scholars teasing this stuff out but I’ll toss a bit in. How does this horror scene connect to the Bible?

well it begins in genesis 1 in multiple places.

“ And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.”

Now the words in Hebrew here for formless is “ tohu “ and it means chaos as in a confused unreality and “ bohu “ which means nothing ot emptiness. It’s also ancient Mesopotamian symbolism based on their understanding of cosmology. It’s a nightmare world of watery darkness that’s counterproductive to all life. This chaos is brought back up several verses later in verse 21.

“So God created the great creatures of the sea…”

in Hebrew this is again something very interesting.

The words for great sea creatures often is translated sea monsters because in Hebrew it’s “ tannin “ which means sea dragon. It’s a serpent like monster. It’s the same serpent like monster brought up in psalms 74 which means it’s about the Leviathan of Job. A giant multi headed fire breathing sea dragon. In these horror fantasies we see water, serpent and dragon used repeatedly to indicate terrifying and confusing events that should not exist.

We see the serpent like dragon with some special power mentioned many times throughout the stories.

1. the leviathan I just mentioned.
2. the serpent in the garden.
3. Even Goliath is connected to this. In 1 Samuel 17:5 Goliaths armor is described as “mail” or scale like. It’s specifically scales like a fish ( giant sea creature with scales is the hyperlink ). It’s qasqeseth. Same type of scales as for fish and snakes in the Bible. So it’s giant man covered in scales hyperlinking back to this giant sea dragon covered in scales which was a manifestation of the chaos of the sea. In genesis 1 how was the chaos of the sea overcome? By land appearing. Like a large rock ( dry land ) defeating the chaos of the water and its monsters. How was this giant scaly man defeated? By rocks ( dry land) plucked up from the water.

1 samuel 17
40 Then he took his staff in his hand and chose for himself five smooth stones from the brook, and put them in the shepherd’s bag which he had, that is, in his shepherd’s pouch, and his sling was in his hand; and he approached the Philistine.

We see this story echoing in other places as well. This water and dry land. This proto symbolism of baptism. Where the waters are murderous but we are brought safely though them. We kill our old self and are reborn like land coming up out of the oceans.

That’s why in the story of Noah’s flood we see the waters washing away evil but Yahweh preserving his chosen through the ark.

We see baby Moses placed into the dangerous crocodile infested Nile and brought safely through it all in his mini reed ark.

it’s why we see the Hebrews moving through the parted sea ( using his staff just like David picked up along with the stones ) while the sea washed away the Egyptians.

All of culminates in revelation in story of restoration. “ The sea gave up its dead “. The dragon “ old serpent “ ( serpent like dragon that makes its home in the dark wet chaotic ocean ) is tossed into a lake but this lake is not of water, it’s fire. It’s also why we we this seemingly random verse in revelation.

Revelation 21:1
New American Standard Bible
The New Heaven and Earth

21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.

“ no longer any sea “ . It’s symbolism for the end of the reign of chaos and it’s monsters.

we even see this story played out with Paul.

Acts 9:18
18 And immediately something like fish scales fell from his eyes, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized;

Paul was the enemy. He was confusion and hate and murder. But he repented and those scales feel from his eyes. He was no longer a scaly son of the serpent but a born again “ blind will see ( ehh ) “ man who was brought safely though the waters of baptism.

so we can see a lot of literary techniques used in the Bible. A lot of it touches on horror. All he stories I just shared , regardless if it’s poetry, history, symbolism, or mythological are all written as horror stories.

The Bible isn't some made up horror story created to scare the living daylights out of people or to satisfy some sick, deep-seated desire to see other humans suffer. There may be accounts of bad things happening to people in it, but is it not enough to read about it and know that it happened and why? Why do you feel the need to have it recreated so you can see every gory detail with your own eyes? If you find beauty in watching people die in unspeakable ways over and over and over, then you've watched so much of that trash that you've seared your conscience to a crisp on this matter and there's really no point in arguing about it anymore because you're going to continue to go to any length to justify what you perceive as some kind of artistic endeavor. Do you watch porn and justify it by saying "The human body is a form of art?" Hopefully, we can agree that even though God created the human body to be beautiful, doing this would be sinful, right?

Now, let me tell you a REAL horror story. Standing in judgement and having to answer for telling someone the promptings of the Holy Spirit are all in their head and a result of some right-wing mind control conspiracy.

Romans 1:28-32
28Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.

32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
The Bible isn't some made up horror story created to scare the living daylights out of people or to satisfy some sick, deep-seated desire to see other humans suffer. There may be accounts of bad things happening to people in it, but is it not enough to read about it and know that it happened and why? Why do you feel the need to have it recreated so you can see every gory detail with your own eyes? If you find beauty in watching people die in unspeakable ways over and over and over, then you've watched so much of that trash that you've seared your conscience to a crisp on this matter and there's really no point in arguing about it anymore because you're going to continue to go to any length to justify what you perceive as some kind of artistic endeavor. Do you watch porn and justify it by saying "The human body is a form of art?" Hopefully, we can agree that even though God created the human body to be beautiful, doing this would be sinful, right?

Now, let me tell you a REAL horror story. Standing in judgement and having to answer for telling someone the promptings of the Holy Spirit are all in their head and a result of some right-wing mind control conspiracy.

Romans 1:28-32
28Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.

32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.


See that’s the peer pressure of insecurity and insanity I was talking about….. horror fans are depraved people who enjoy seeing people suffer…… you may want to look into horror as a social commentary….

man’s again….. the Bible uses horror…… s horror is either sinful or not…. And the answer is that it’s not. Ironically, contrary to what some here seems to believe, those anti horror instead of apathetic towards it seems to be the ones struggling with emotional intelligence.
 
Upvote 0

SkovandOfMitzae

Active Member
Apr 17, 2022
257
76
36
Southeastern USA
✟8,789.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Engaged
I’m worried about standing before God for telling the truth lol.

I guess satanic panic has struck around.

are you aware that a deprived mind is a mind that enjoys committing real evil and suffering right? It’s about rapists like David was. It’s about murders like Moses and Paul was. It’s not about scary stories.

for example I’m a vegan. I’ve been one for 15 years. I don’t use pesticides in my garden. I don’t kill animals such as snakes or spiders. ( they are actually my favorite wild animals and I handle them constantly ). I also do about 8-10 hours of volunteer work a week. My company takes a profit hit because spay 10% above a living wage. Most companies where I live pay around 12-15 and I start off at $23 now.

so in the end we can’t decide if something is a personal feeling or from the Holy Spirit. What we can do though is test it with scripture. Scripture simply does not condemn the literary style of horror. But as I’ve down repeatedly, it actually incorporates it into the Bible. Therefore, it can’t be a sin inherently. Not Christian horror. Not biblical horror. Not science fiction horror. Not real life crime horror.
 
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,524
20,532
29
Nebraska
✟751,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
Wow I didn't know that! So it was based off a true story? Interesting! I'm scared to ask what happened in the crucifix scene. LOL
It's very sacrileges and disgusting. Even more so in the book.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Skye1300
Upvote 0