Was Noah's Flood 15 cubits above the mountains, or just 15 cubits & above the hills?

[AV1611VET]

And yet those that were supposedly wiped out never noticed it... Go figure....

You were there?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

You were there?

Nope, and neither were you.

 

[Lethe]

Obviously it wouldn't because it didn't. Do you even have a clue how ignorant it sounds to say that the God who created the universe couldn't do this or couldn't do that because the physical laws He created prohibit it? It was God's intent to kill every living land dweller other than those on the ark, and that's what he did.

There is so much wrong with this I'm at a loss as to where to begin.

First, I think I'll invoke Poe's law.
Second,

Obviously it wouldn't because it didn't.

requires the premise to be externally validated (eg show it ever happened to begin with), something you haven't done.
Third,

Do you even have a clue how ignorant it sounds to say that the God who created the universe couldn't do this or couldn't do that because the physical laws He created prohibit it?

you have said that everything we know about how the world functions is null and void because, God. You have invoked magic. Therefore, why would God ever both with the flood to begin with? Why would God appear to create a natural cause of death, a flood, that is wholly unnatural and involves the violation of numerous laws via some yet unknown mechanism.

Fourth, the flood is dated to about ~2350 BC as claimed by creationists at Answers In Genesis. No Egyptians or Sumerians appear to have been affected by the flood. Amazing, eh?

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope, and neither were you.

I know Someone Who was, though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Therefore, why would God ever both with the flood to begin with? Why would God appear to create a natural cause of death, a flood, that is wholly unnatural and involves the violation of numerous laws via some yet unknown mechanism.

In order to give them time to repent before they drowned.

Have you ever heard of deathbed conversions?

Had God just winked their lives out of them, they would all be in Hell today.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

I know Someone Who was, though.

No, You Don't.

 

[KWCrazy]

First, I think I'll invoke Poe's law.

And I'll envoke the ignore button, since you are obviously not interested in or not capable of intelligent conversaton.

Second, requires the premise to be externally validated (eg show it ever happened to begin with), something you haven't done.

Validated to whom? To you? Who are you that the ways of God should be personally explained? Do you think your refusal to accept God's word has any cosmic significance? Maybe your ignorance of science is such that you think supernatural happenings can be explained through natual law? You don't know the state of the earth before the flood, or it's size, or the amount of water present, or its topography. Having never looked at a topographical map of the Middle East you rely on the words of others who try to say it was a local flood... with runoff to the oceans.... that left an ark at a mountain peak.

Third, you have said that everything we know about how the world functions is null and void because, God.

Blatant falsehood. I have said the hypothesies of science regarding origination are wrong and that God, who created the world, has dominion over it. He is not slave to the laws of sceince He created.

You have invoked magic.

Blatant lie. Do you even know what magic is? Do you understand what a miracle is? Can you comprehend the difference?

Why would God appear to create a natural cause of death, a flood, that is wholly unnatural and involves the violation of numerous laws via some yet unknown mechanism.

God's will isn't exactly an unknown mechanism, and who are you to question Him?

Fourth, the flood is dated to about ~2350 BC as claimed by creationists at Answers In Genesis. No Egyptians or Sumerians appear to have been affected by the flood. Amazing, eh?

No.
Also from Answers in Genesis:
With so little to work from, archaeologists have had to make copious assumptions. And modern scholars have developed a long chronology consistent with the idea that humans have evolved over millions of years.
All this has turned these wonders of the ancient world into something of an enigma. If the first human societies evolved from primitive hunter-gatherers, how could ancient artisans have built such amazing structures? If they began without technology or social organization, why do these incredible feats of engineering burst upon the ancient world? Some have even wondered if the technology was supplied by aliens.
But the pyramids of Egypt are no enigma when we use biblical history as our starting point. According to the Bible, the first settlers of Egypt migrated from the Euphrates River, the site of the Tower of Babel, where the languages were confused after the Flood. The modern chronology of Egypt is far too long because dynasties have been placed sequentially, whereas they were, to a greater or lesser extent, contemporary. In other words, the reigns were concurrent with each other. Also, some dynasties may not have existed at all.
It seems the first settlers of Egypt were descended from Mizraim, the son of Ham (Genesis 10:6, 13). That’s why, at the first dynasty, there bursts on the scene a people of culture and skill who already possessed a form of writing.

 

[AV1611VET]

It seems the first settlers of Egypt were descended from Mizraim, the son of Ham (Genesis 10:6, 13). That’s why, at the first dynasty, there bursts on the scene a people of culture and skill who already possessed a form of writing.

Hey, bro -- this is one of my favorite sites: The sixteen grandsons of Noah.

 

[Strathos]

He taught using parables so the people would understand the message. That's not the same thing ans making up stories of your own accomplishments, like so many do online.

If anything, God was being modest about his accomplishments in Genesis. He talked mainly about the Earth, along with the moon and the sun and a little about the stars, because those are what His target audience (humans) would be most concerned with for the next few thousand years. If He wanted to brag He would talk about how He created billions of billions of galaxies, each with billions of billions of stars, that made the Earth look like an insignificant speck in comparison.

 

[Lethe]

KWCrazy, you bring up the tower of Babel.

Creationists place the tower of Babel ~100 years after the flood.

Six people, to tens or hundreds of thousands of people in just 100 years. Yeah. Totally legit.

 

[AV1611VET]

Six people, to tens or hundreds of thousands of people in just 100 years. Yeah. Totally legit.

It's eight people, not six; and God blessed them with fertility that would have made Nadya Suleman jealous.

Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

 

[Lethe]

I forgot. More magic.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

I forgot. More magic.

Miracle Lethe, miracle. Miracles are what supernatural deities do, magic is what humans do.

 

[Cute Tink]

The devil is waging war on Christianity by convincing millions that natural law, not God's law, governs the universe.

If God created natural law, why wouldn't natural law govern the universe?

 

[AV1611VET]

If God created natural law, why wouldn't natural law govern the universe?

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is slowly but surely tearing God's creation down into a state of thermal equilibrium; like a fungus eating away at the Mona Lisa.

God did not create the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (as we know it today) during the creation week; it came about as a result of the Fall.

God is going to intervene at some point and recreate the universe, bringing it back to the state it was in before the Fall -- or close to it.

 

[Cute Tink]

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is slowly but surely tearing God's creation down into a state of thermal equilibrium; like a fungus eating away at the Mona Lisa.

God did not create the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (as we know it today) during the creation week; it came about as a result of the Fall.

God is going to intervene at some point and recreate the universe, bringing it back to the state it was in before the Fall -- or close to it.

OK, but that doesn't really answer my question.

 

[super animator]

Bringing me to one of my favorite trends in religious theology:

That got to be one of poorly made, arbitrary based scale I seen on the internet.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

That got to be one of poorly made, arbitrary based scale I seen on the internet.

I know what you mean. It's not just toast!

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[Lethe]

That got to be one of poorly made, arbitrary based scale I seen on the internet.

It's an ordinal ranking. The distances on the scale don't mean anything.

 

[super animator]

It's an ordinal ranking. The distances on the scale don't mean anything.

Based on what?