Was Jesus Married?

[Kris_J]

I recently read that Mormons believe that Jesus was actually married.

So, do Mormons actually believe this?

Thanks.

 

[CHARLES H]

I recently read that Mormons believe that Jesus was actually married. Is there any truth in this?

Thanks.

i have never read in the bible or outside history that supports this.

 

[simi]

NO NO NO and NO! If he was - it would be pretty important and it would have been mentioned in the bible. something like that would not be kept out if it was true. Also JEsus only had a limited time on earth. He was put here for a reason and it would have been selfish to get married then 3 years later say! "Oh by the way,,,,I'm going to be killed soon, and umm... yeah then ill goto heaven" sorry about taht ill just have to leave you here.

its pointless.

He had a purpose he fulfilled it. He didnt come to earth to enjoy it, but to offer himself as a sacrifice..

 

[CHARLES H]

NO NO NO and NO! If he was - it would be pretty important and it would have been mentioned in the bible. something like that would not be kept out if it was true. Also JEsus only had a limited time on earth. He was put here for a reason and it would have been selfish to get married then 3 years later say! "Oh by the way,,,,I'm going to be killed soon, and umm... yeah then ill goto heaven" sorry about taht ill just have to leave you here.

its pointless.

He had a purpose he fulfilled it. He didnt come to earth to enjoy it, but to offer himself as a sacrifice..

amen

 

[SayWhat???]

I recently read that Mormons believe that Jesus was actually married.

So, do Mormons actually believe this?

Thanks.

The LDS church has no official doctrine on the matter. It neither teaches that He was married, nor that he was not.

Now, some members of the LDS church believe that. Some even believe that the wedding He went to, where he changed the water to wine, was His own(from my limited knowledge of Jewish culture I think if He WERE to marry it would have been well before the age of 30, long before his first recorded miracle). It is important to note that this is their personal opinion, and not official doctrine. The Bible, which is silent on the subject, leaves much room for speculation. So, people speculate.

Incidentally, in my opinion it is also speculation to say He was not married. Maybe He was. Maybe He wasn't. To make a statement one way or the other is pure speculation/opinion.

Anyway, the answer to your question is:

There is no official doctrine in the LDS church regarding Christ's marital status.

 

[Wrigley]

The LDS church has no official doctrine on the matter. It neither teaches that He was married, nor that he was not.

Now, some members of the LDS church believe that. Some even believe that the wedding He went to, where he changed the water to wine, was His own(from my limited knowledge of Jewish culture I think if He WERE to marry it would have been well before the age of 30, long before his first recorded miracle). It is important to note that this is their personal opinion, and not official doctrine. The Bible, which is silent on the subject, leaves much room for speculation. So, people speculate.

Incidentally, in my opinion it is also speculation to say He was not married. Maybe He was. Maybe He wasn't. To make a statement one way or the other is pure speculation/opinion.

Anyway, the answer to your question is:

There is no official doctrine in the LDS church regarding Christ's marital status.

C'mon. Don't be so wishy-washy. Take a stand. I'll start. NO. Jesus was NOT married.

 

[SayWhat???]

C'mon. Don't be so wishy-washy. Take a stand. I'll start. NO. Jesus was NOT married.

Where exactly does it say that in the Bible?

 

[Wrigley]

Where exactly does it say that in the Bible?

The fact that Jesus being married is not in the Bible only strengthens the fact that He wasn't. We must look to the Bible as the ultimate authority. When we come across speculations like "Was Jesus Married?", look to the Bible. The Bible says "No" by silence. Speculations that He was lead to "The DaVinci Code" and other books. Speculations also lead to extra-Biblical books that lead people away from Christ. Like dianetics and the bom.

 

[Nehi]

Was Jesus Married? Several LDS Leaders Say He Was

Journal of Discourses 2:82, Orson Hyde, October 6, 1854

"Gentlemen, that is as plain as the translators, or different councils over this Scripture, are allow it to go to the world, but the thing is there; it is told; Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee, and he told them what to do... Now there was actually a marriage; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified."

[When Joseph Fielding Smith was asked if this meant that Christ had children, Joseph Fielding Smith wrote] "Yes! But do not preach it! The Lord advised us not to cast pearls before swine!" (Letter to J. Ricks Smith, dated March 17, 1963]

Journal of Discourses 2:210, Orson Hyde, March 18, 1855

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."

Journal of Discourses 4:259, Orson Hyde

"It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it."

The Seer, p. 172, Orson Pratt

"We have now clearly shown that God, the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born... We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings' daughters and many honorable Wives to be married."

and you say...

Now, some members of the LDS church believe that.

... are these the "some members" you had in mind ??? Tell us... what was the highest office held by each of these "some members."



Read these statements. They are not simple musings. they are presented as foundational to LDS theology.



~ NEHI (just loved that "some members" comment. )

 

[simi]

i got this from a mormon website [Staff Edit]

There are many who say that Latter-day Saints believe in a 'different Jesus' than do other Christians and that we are therefore not 'Christian.' . . . We believe in the Jesus of the New Testament, and we believe what the New Testament teaches about Him. We do believe things about Jesus that other Christians do not believe, but that is because we know, through revelation, things about Jesus that others do not know. . . . "What we want most of all is for Christian and non-Christian alike to understand that we love the Lord Jesus Christ. We revere His name. We count it a great honor and privilege to take upon ourselves the name of Christ as Christians and as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

If they know this speical knowledge of Jesus...why dont we know it? if its soo special will God leave it out of his bible..i think not!

 

[Nehi]

LDS = Latter Day Saints as in the Mormon Church

~NEHI (glad to help)

 

[simi]

lol i just figured it out so i edited my post =) thanx for the help

 

[Swart]

Read these statements. They are not simple musings. they are presented as foundational to LDS theology.

Poppycock.

You obviously have not understood a word of what any LDS has said here. What if we applied this logic to OCy in general?

"The road to hell is paved with the skulls of unbaptized children"
- Jonathan Edwards

“The west LA area is a tremendous area for the upward mobile type of people, yuppie type of people. Yet, as I looked at the West sector, it was made up of the weak and the weird. I said, ‘Listen, if you’re a white-collar person, don’t you ever bring in another blue-collar person. You reach out to white collar people. If you’re a blue-collar person, don’t you come in here with someone who doesn’t have a job. You reach out to blue-collar or white-collar.”
- Marty Fuqua, The Cutting Edge, Boston Leadership Conference, International Churches of Christ, Aug 92 source

"Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?"
- John Calvin, citing Ps. 93:1 in his Commentary on Genesis

"A major function of fundamentalist religion is to bolster deeply insecure and fearful people. This is done by justifying a way of life with all of its defining prejudices. It thereby provides an appropriate and legitimate outlet for one's anger. The authority of an inerrant Bible that can be readily quoted to buttress this point of view becomes an essential ingredient to such a life. When that Bible is challenged, or relativized, the resulting anger proves the point categorically."
- Bishop John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism, (San Fransisco: Harper Collins, 1991), p. 5.

Now back to the topic. Who cares if Jesus was married or not? For a 1C Jewish man aged 30, it would be unusual for him not to have been. Little is said about the Apostle's wives, but that doesn't mean they weren't married. It is ludicrous to say that just because the Bible doesn't mention it, then it didn't happen.

I assume that he was. Not because of Orson Hyde's opinion on the matter, but because it seems logical to me that he was.

 

[Soul Searcher]

NO NO NO and NO! If he was - it would be pretty important and it would have been mentioned in the bible. something like that would not be kept out if it was true. Also JEsus only had a limited time on earth. He was put here for a reason and it would have been selfish to get married then 3 years later say! "Oh by the way,,,,I'm going to be killed soon, and umm... yeah then ill goto heaven" sorry about taht ill just have to leave you here.

its pointless.

He had a purpose he fulfilled it. He didnt come to earth to enjoy it, but to offer himself as a sacrifice..

Actually that may not be the case, I mean it would be considered pretty normal for a Jewish man in his 30s to be married, nothing that would really need to be said, I don't recall seeing it talk about the desciples being married either. Wouldn't it seem a bit odd for a group of men to hang out together all the time with no wifes? That might be worth mentioning, but instead they didn't say anything about if he was married or not, could go either way, there are many years unaccounted for.

 

[Wrigley]

As long as we're recklessly speculating on wether Jesus was married or not, let's take it a step further.

Jesus is the Son of God. If Jesus were married, we can assume he had kids, since, you know, the Bible is silent about that too. That would make God the Father, Jesus' kids, Grandfather. Now, if Jesus was perfect, could he possibly have imperfect kids? So, since the Bible is silent about this, we can say that there were other perfect people out there besides Jesus. And since these kids are perfect, would they need a Savior.

C'mon, let's speculate togather.

 

[Nehi]

Poppycock.

You obviously have not understood a word of what any LDS has said here. What if we applied this logic to OCy in general?

"The road to hell is paved with the skulls of unbaptized children"
- Jonathan Edwards

“The west LA area is a tremendous area for the upward mobile type of people, yuppie type of people. Yet, as I looked at the West sector, it was made up of the weak and the weird. I said, ‘Listen, if you’re a white-collar person, don’t you ever bring in another blue-collar person. You reach out to white collar people. If you’re a blue-collar person, don’t you come in here with someone who doesn’t have a job. You reach out to blue-collar or white-collar.”
- Marty Fuqua, The Cutting Edge, Boston Leadership Conference, International Churches of Christ, Aug 92 source

"Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?"
- John Calvin, citing Ps. 93:1 in his Commentary on Genesis

"A major function of fundamentalist religion is to bolster deeply insecure and fearful people. This is done by justifying a way of life with all of its defining prejudices. It thereby provides an appropriate and legitimate outlet for one's anger. The authority of an inerrant Bible that can be readily quoted to buttress this point of view becomes an essential ingredient to such a life. When that Bible is challenged, or relativized, the resulting anger proves the point categorically."
- Bishop John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism, (San Fransisco: Harper Collins, 1991), p. 5.

I notice you didn't list the church position of the ones I cited.

As to your citations:

Jonathan Edwards: Edwards was the pastor of a Congregationalist church in Connecticut and the President of Yale College. Could you cite the source, please?

Marty Fuqua: Who the heck is he? And how is this quote relevant?

John Calvin: Clearly a leader of the Reformation. The quote is pretty much a "there's life on the sun" (you know that's Brigham Young's claim) type quote. Hardly tangent to eternal issues.



Bishop John Shelby Spong: Episcopalian bishop. Spong also said the following which hardly qualifies him to speak for mainstream Christianity:

[1] Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. God can no longer be understood with credibility as a Being, supernatural in power, dwelling above the sky and prepared to invade human history periodically to enforce the divine will. So, most theological God-talk today is meaningless unless we find a new way to speak of God;


[2] Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So, the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.

​

On the otherhand, I cited high leaders in your church making strong pronouncement and lnking these statements to the fabric of LDS theology.


Now, if you are saying these men are to LDS what Shelby Spong is to Episcopalianism.... that is an interesting admission

~ NEHI (would Mormonism's Heavenly Mother be Mary Magdalene's Mother-in-law ???)

 

[Rescued One]

The LDS church has no official doctrine on the matter. It neither teaches that He was married, nor that he was not.

Now, some members of the LDS church believe that. Some even believe that the wedding He went to, where he changed the water to wine, was His own(from my limited knowledge of Jewish culture I think if He WERE to marry it would have been well before the age of 30, long before his first recorded miracle). It is important to note that this is their personal opinion, and not official doctrine. The Bible, which is silent on the subject, leaves much room for speculation. So, people speculate.

Incidentally, in my opinion it is also speculation to say He was not married. Maybe He was. Maybe He wasn't. To make a statement one way or the other is pure speculation/opinion.

Anyway, the answer to your question is:

There is no official doctrine in the LDS church regarding Christ's marital status.

However, all Mormons know that the Mormon Jesus had to be married. The only way to be like the Mormon god and to have Mormon eternal life is to be married for time and eternity in a Mormon temple. To call it speculation or opinion doesn't change the fact that this type of marriage is a requirement and a commandment. The Mormon Jesus obeyed the commandments perfectly. He lived a "celestial law" to set an example for all LDS.

You will notice that there are certain LDS beliefs that the LDS don't come right out and admit. It's part of the PR. They have a tendency to just claim such and such belief isn't official doctrine.

 

[Wrigley]

However, all Mormons know that the Mormon Jesus had to be married. The only way to be like the Mormon god and to have Mormon eternal life is to be married for time and eternity in a Mormon temple. To call it speculation or opinion doesn't change the fact that this type of marriage is a requirement and a commandment. The Mormon Jesus obeyed the commandments perfectly. He lived a "celestial law" to set an example for all LDS.

You will notice that there are certain LDS beliefs that the LDS don't come right out and admit. It's part of the PR. They have a tendency to just claim such and such belief isn't official doctrine.

Good points GWIT.

 

[Rescued One]

Poppycock.

You obviously have not understood a word of what any LDS has said here. What if we applied this logic to OCy in general?

"The road to hell is paved with the skulls of unbaptized children"
- Jonathan Edwards

“The west LA area is a tremendous area for the upward mobile type of people, yuppie type of people. Yet, as I looked at the West sector, it was made up of the weak and the weird. I said, ‘Listen, if you’re a white-collar person, don’t you ever bring in another blue-collar person. You reach out to white collar people. If you’re a blue-collar person, don’t you come in here with someone who doesn’t have a job. You reach out to blue-collar or white-collar.”
- Marty Fuqua, The Cutting Edge, Boston Leadership Conference, International Churches of Christ, Aug 92 source

"Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?"
- John Calvin, citing Ps. 93:1 in his Commentary on Genesis

"A major function of fundamentalist religion is to bolster deeply insecure and fearful people. This is done by justifying a way of life with all of its defining prejudices. It thereby provides an appropriate and legitimate outlet for one's anger. The authority of an inerrant Bible that can be readily quoted to buttress this point of view becomes an essential ingredient to such a life. When that Bible is challenged, or relativized, the resulting anger proves the point categorically."
- Bishop John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism, (San Fransisco: Harper Collins, 1991), p. 5.

Now back to the topic. Who cares if Jesus was married or not? For a 1C Jewish man aged 30, it would be unusual for him not to have been. Little is said about the Apostle's wives, but that doesn't mean they weren't married. It is ludicrous to say that just because the Bible doesn't mention it, then it didn't happen.

I assume that he was. Not because of Orson Hyde's opinion on the matter, but because it seems logical to me that he was.

Why don't you want to admit the truth? Temple marriage is a commandment.

Doctrine & Covenants 132

15 Therefore, if a man marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.

16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God forever and ever.

How could the Mormon Jesus be a god without a wife?

You want to know the “steps” by which one can have his life patterned to that fulness that makes him a worthy citizen or “saint” in God’s kingdom. The best answer may be found by a study of the life of Jesus in the scriptures. … Christ came not only into the world to make an atonement for the sins of mankind but to set an example before the world of the standard of perfection of God’s law and of obedience to the Father. In his Sermon on the Mount the Master has given us somewhat of a revelation of his own character, which was perfect, … and in so doing has given us a blueprint for our own lives. …

 

[SayWhat???]

The fact that Jesus being married is not in the Bible only strengthens the fact that He wasn't.

Strengthens the fact? To be able to strengthen a fact, it must first be established as a fact. This particular "fact" of yours was never established in the Bible. How can one call it a fact? How can one then "strengthen" that "fact?"

We must look to the Bible as the ultimate authority.

I prefer to look to God as the ultimate authority. And what you are claiming is simply not in the Bible.

When we come across speculations like "Was Jesus Married?", look to the Bible. The Bible says "No" by silence.

Silence is not saying "No." Imagine how much I could "prove" about Christ, if I wanted to, with a really fertile imagination and the Bible's silence. Sorry... No dice on that one.

Speculations that He was lead to "The DaVinci Code" and other books. Speculations also lead to extra-Biblical books that lead people away from Christ. Like dianetics and the bom.

I'm not the one speculating here... Remember, I'm wishy-washy...