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Was Jesus a Black Man?

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I heard from a friend that Jesus had to be dark skinned because of the region he grew up in, and thus all the pictures painting him as white are false.

Two questions:

1) Does anyone know what is the first painted picture of Jesus?

2) Do you think Jesus is black?

(1) I do not know for sure.
(2) no, very unlikely.
 
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Black and white is a sadly racistly implemented catagorization we have all been infected with. People span the entire spectrum of possible shades and though I have met an actual "white" man once (an albino) he was of African descent not European.

Many Jewish people today are of European stock and one cannot rightly assess what a Jewish person from the 1st century looked like. My guess is as said already what we call olive skinned and then sun baked to a brownish tint. Because He is of the house of David (regarding His physicality) He probably had more wirey bushy black hair and a beard, but even if He were an albino or like the darkest congolese, that means nothing...He was the Son of God...who gave Himself for us...Amen

In His love

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I heard from a friend that Jesus had to be dark skinned because of the region he grew up in, and thus all the pictures painting him as white are false.

Two questions:

1) Does anyone know what is the first painted picture of Jesus?

2) Do you think Jesus is black?

Jesus would have been dark. And it would be appropriate to say Jesus was a brown man. But it would be just as erroneous to say Jesus was black as to say Jesus was white.

It's impossible to say exactly how dark Jesus was simply because we can't know. But chances are He was more dark than light (either way He would have been "brown") if only because if you grew up as a carpenter's son and spent most of your time outside under the hot Judean sun, you're gonna have a pretty significant tan.

The earliest pictures of Jesus show up in the catacombs, these depict a figure known as the Good Shepherd, a beardless youth carrying a lamb over his shoulders. It is a very typically Roman depiction and certainly does not offer us any clues as to what the Lord actually looked like. Starting in the 4th century the more familiar image of Christ shows up, such as this:

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But no, we don't know what the Lord looked like.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Hey OC, do you have any Jewish friends? Are they black?

--David

That's not necessarily very helpful.

Just take a look at these Yemeni Jews

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Or how about the historic Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews)

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The Diaspora means Jewish populations the globe over run across the entire human rainbow.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Oh, I know. I am, of course, used to family and friends who are, as Paul just stated above, of European descent, so they all have skin color and facial features of someone along the lines of Benjamin Netanyahu (see the photo below). I also went to a high school with the interesting distinction of being approximately 85% Jewish and 15% Black, and I don't remember anyone ever being mistaken for being part of the wrong 'group' .. ^_^

Probably the most helpful thing I could offer this discussion at this point would be the family my cousin married into of Christian Egyptians, who trace their family heritage all the way back to the 1st Century Copts. While my cousin-in-law has skin just slightly darker than I do now, he tans to a color dark enough to pass for a dark-skinned African, but he still doesn't 'look' like a black man. He looks Egyptian, very dark, but Egyptian (not unlike the the dark-skinned Yemeni Jews in the picture you posited for us).

Thus my point, I suppose. Jesus, who got His human DNA from a Middle Eastern Jewish woman (a direct descendant of Abraham and Sarah), was never ostracized for looking "different" when He grew up in the land of Israel. It is, of course, conjecture, but I assume, based upon the facts we know, that Jesus looked like a Middle Eastern Jew, not an African black.

--David

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Prime Minister of Israel
 
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He probably had a darker complexion than Europeans suppose, darker than the average Israeli today, but there is no basis for thinking he was black or Negroid.

BTW, it is interesting to note the line of argument taken by some African-American preachers who teach that Jesus was black. One that I heard recently held that because the Israelites were in Egypt in Moses' time, and because Egypt is on the African continent, he had to have been black. The more frequently heard argument relies upon the Book of Revelation wherein John says he saw Jesus girded about the paps, etc. and describes him as having hair white as lamb's wool. But that obviously refers to the color of his hair, not to the texture (although the speaker went on to say that this was the meaning)!
 
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Why not just look at the beginning in the Bible? All mankind descended from Japheth, Ham, and Shem. As one traces the migration of each (as the Bible shows) as is apparent also today, one can see that Jesus was of Shem lineage. That would be medium between very light and very dark --likely of light brown tones. The only reason one might be occupied with this, I suppose, is that one has trouble accepting one's self. In Heaven it won't matter.
 
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I heard from a friend that Jesus had to be dark skinned because of the region he grew up in, and thus all the pictures painting him as white are false.

Two questions:

1) Does anyone know what is the first painted picture of Jesus?

2) Do you think Jesus is black?

No one made any portraits of Jesus during his lifetime that anyone knows of.

However, just knowing that Jesus was a native of Israel tells us that he looked like what just about any person native to that region would look like in complexion. And I don't really think Middle-Eastern people can be considered as being primarily black or white.

But no, Jesus most likely did not look like this:

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Albion noted that because the Israelites were in Egypt some might conclude that they were, therefore, "black" (we need to keep in mind that terms like "white" and "black" are largely modern constructs). This can get tricky, though I would agree that it is, at best, a supreme oversimplification. Because Egypt's long history as a civilization did have many Nubian influences. Nubia (roughly corresponding to modern Sudan) and Egypt have a very long and ancient history involving both conflict and cooperation. At certain points in ancient Egyptian history Nubians were the ruling class, and there were Nubian dynasties.

Whereas Egypt generally shares most with North Africa and the Western Levant, the Nile River allowed a more open connection between East North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa. Hence the relationships with Nubia and also Ethiopia to Egypt's south.

It's tricky because there certainly would have been what we call black Egyptians (as noted above). Black here corresponding to peoples from the Sub-Sahara.

But it's also probably important to talk about ancient human migratory patterns. We typically think of the out-of-Africa migration as one event, but was actually a series of migrations (demonstrated by genetic studies). These ancient migrations out from Africa corresponded to climate changes. The Sahara over the last couple hundred thousand years has gone through wet and dry periods. We are currently in a dry period, but during wet periods the Sahara was fertile. We know these periods existed because humans used to inhabit the Sahara in larger numbers and recorded their existence through tool and painting discoveries--paintings of giraffe, elephant, etc. During these periods the Sahara was much like the rest of central Africa, filled with savanna grasslands with herds of elephant, buffalo, and the like. During these wet periods it was far easier for humans to migrate north and across the region across Sinai into Mesopotamia and beyond.

Egyptian civilization, or rather proto-Egyptian civilization--agrarian society centered around the Nile--likely was fostered by Saharan people who, during the last drying up of the Sahara, migrated to stable sources of water--the Nile. And gathered there, and like also during the drying out of Mesopotamia resulting in organized human communities around the Tigris and Euphrates, was borne what we call civilization.

So to that extent, Egypt largely was inhabited by waves of Saharan nomads seeking to survive, with the last drying up of the Sahara largely cutting North Africa off from the rest of the continent, except as already noted the Nile providing an exchange between Egypt in the north and Nubia in the south.

So have there been black Egyptians? Absolutely. Would the Israelites have been black? Probably not. But it's impossible to talk about roughly a million people, while a foreign people from the Levant in Egypt there were four hundred years of integration in Egyptian society. So let's expect that DNA studies would show that these people shared much in common with both local Egyptian and Nubian peoples.

So let's put it this way: Was Jesus African? No. Did Jesus have Sub-Saharan African ancestry? Yes, in the same way every last human being on this planet has African ancestry. Did Jesus also have more recent African ancestry (that is within two or three thousand years)? Probably.

So what does all this actually mean? Well nothing really. It's only interesting if you're a nerd like I am and find anthropology and human phylogeny interesting. Because when it comes to the Gospel the only thing that matters is that the Word became man, His name is Jesus, and He is our Lord, raised from the dead. And His promise of eternal life is for all people, regardless of race, tribe, or tongue.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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After all of this, a good point to make is that it is a good question for us all to think about. Because we have all seen the white depictions of Jesus that pretty much dominate the western world, and those who never think anything of it, and go forward with their lives picturing Jesus as white will be very surprised if not dismayed, when He looks totally different when He returns. This could even cause a lot of them to fall for a false Jesus if one is presented before Jesus' actual return.
 
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