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You chose a definition to suit your (or some other wrong) purpose, not the TRUTH.
No worries.
YHWH can and will do as HE PLEASES.
No definition at all when used with a wrong motive will accomplish something good.That's the actual definition of the word. Want one from another dictionary?
No definition at all when used with a wrong motive will accomplish something good.
A bad tree cannot produce good fruit, can it ?
Why do you seem to want to insist that YHWH did something HE could not do ?
He could and did commit genocide using the flood. Anytime God decides to take a life or lives of MANY people he does so righteously. Why fight against something you know did happen during the flood?
Anyways, this is off topic to the Op so let's get back to that. I previously said God owns America and thus it was not wrong for America to be founded by Europeans.
I trust you realize the attitude of the North American 'native' people toward land ownership had nothing to do with the events in Acts or the advice to the Corinthians. That's very similar to saying John Wayne Gacy was 'Christian in spirit' because he took homeless boys into his house.W2L said:In that aspect alone, the natives seemed more Christ like than the Europeans.
No. W2L is right.I trust you realize the attitude of the North American 'native' people toward land ownership had nothing to do with the events in Acts or the advice to the Corinthians. That's very similar to saying John Wayne Gacy was 'Christian in spirit' because he took homeless boys into his house.
Funny how something supposedly "not scriptural" suddenly is scriptural.
King James Bible
A Psalm of David. The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
This is why God could and did take the land away from the occupants in Israel and gave it to Israel. It didn't matter who lived there because God decided to give the land to someone else. He did the same regarding America.
Written by a man and wife team of Earnest T. and Julia M. Seton in 1935 (that's when the copyright was established); published by Wisdom Tales, a subsidiary of World Wisdom.yeshuaslavejeff said:There's a small paperback book called "Gospel of the Red Man"...
This may seem like a silly question or a silly topic for a post, but I have not seen anyone else ask the question, or bring up the subject, or (hopefully) start a discussion thread about it......
I feel this question, as well as this subject, is a two-edged sword, so to speak.....
On the one hand, we can claim that it was "unchristianlike" and wrong and a terrible injustice for Europeans to come over to North and South America and take all the land from the Native Americans and reduce them all to minority status......
But, on the other hand, we could claim that, had Europeans not dominated the native peoples of North and South America, nations like the U.S., Canada, Brazil and the rest would not be a great and as prosperous as they are today.....
Nor as "Christian" as they are.......
However, I am not taking sides, one way or the other, on this subject......
I am simply asking was it "unchristian" for European settlers to have taken the land away from Native Americans??
The British Christians believed in "divine discovery". That is, if a Christian who is God's representative on earth moves into new land they have the right to conquer said land. And that includes killing resistant inhabitants.
Its the same colonial spirit that Constantine was under control of as he instituted his brand of religion and killed off dissenters.
All Americans need to remember that we all walk on stolen land stained with the blood of free human beings.
This may seem like a silly question or a silly topic for a post, but I have not seen anyone else ask the question, or bring up the subject, or (hopefully) start a discussion thread about it......
I feel this question, as well as this subject, is a two-edged sword, so to speak.....
On the one hand, we can claim that it was "unchristianlike" and wrong and a terrible injustice for Europeans to come over to North and South America and take all the land from the Native Americans and reduce them all to minority status......
But, on the other hand, we could claim that, had Europeans not dominated the native peoples of North and South America, nations like the U.S., Canada, Brazil and the rest would not be a great and as prosperous as they are today.....
Nor as "Christian" as they are.......
However, I am not taking sides, one way or the other, on this subject......
I am simply asking was it "unchristian" for European settlers to have taken the land away from Native Americans??
While your point is well taken about Christ not being happy with what some people do in His name, Most African slaves were sold to Europeans by Africans. They were the products of tribal warfare in Africa. (sorry, replying to a 5 year old message...I agree. And add to it taking people from Africa and selling them as slaves and tried to excuse it by saying that they would make Christians out of them. I have a sneaking suspicion that Christ often isn't very happy about what we do in His name, especially when it goes against everything that He taught!
The US wasn't entirely Protestant, you know...nor was Europe, at that time, controlled mostly by the Catholic Church or the Anglican Church. The world of the time was going very secular. Germany was controlled by the Lutheran Church, Switzerland was run by other Protestants, France was turning against all religion.This truly is a very touchy subject indeed. While the Israelites were "conquering" the promised land God told them to kill everything, everyone. and in some cases destroy the land. ALL great nations have become great through conquest. Was it God's will? Why did He command the Israelites to kill everyone? because they were idol worshipers and would not acknowledge Him. Would that hold true for the conquest of the native american indian tribes who worship the creature instead of the creator???
I believe that the USA is in bible prophecy, which is a study there is not enough room for here. I believe that the Lord blessed America, just like the saying God bless America, and in God we trust. Even though many of the founding fathers were atheists and agnostics they were fleeing from religious persecution that they wanted nothing ever to do with again and that is why the constitution was written to protect many God given rights of humanity. God needed a people to carry on His word and this could not happen in europe which at the time was controlled by the roman catholic church and the anglican church which both were very oppressive. Both of these monarchical organizations wanted to keep the peasants down, in ignorance and only the elite class had all the privileges. This is why God sent people to the new world to start His government. the greatest government there ever was, the Protestant Republic of the USA has lasted hundreds of years, and now God is letting the immoral and unethical stops to be pulled out to wake up His sleeping virgins to go out an give the battle cry, and blow the trumpet in Zion. Jesus is coming soon.
What "brand" of religion did Constantine have?The British Christians believed in "divine discovery". That is, if a Christian who is God's representative on earth moves into new land they have the right to conquer said land. And that includes killing resistant inhabitants.
Its the same colonial spirit that Constantine was under control of as he instituted his brand of religion and killed off dissenters.
All Americans need to remember that we all walk on stolen land stained with the blood of free human beings.
The US wasn't entirely Protestant, you know...nor was Europe, at that time, controlled mostly by the Catholic Church or the Anglican Church. The world of the time was going very secular. Germany was controlled by the Lutheran Church, Switzerland was run by other Protestants, France was turning against all religion.
Is that why Catholics signed on to the Declaration of Independence? Who says there is no 'freedom of choice' in a Catholic world. What does that even mean? Nobody was burned at the stake for 'not joining' the RCC. It was the Protestants who did the Salem witch trials, on the other hand. That's documented.Th US was not "entirely" Protestant, but the constitution was based on Protestant principles of freedom of conscience, which the RCC completely tries to remove. There is no freedom of choice in a catholic world. May were burned at the stake just for not joining the RCC.
Yes, this is true everywhere, in and over the world the prince of the power of the air does not give people freedom to choose except 'choices' within the system to give the illusion to them that they actually have some kind of choice.There is no freedom of choice
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