War On Terror

[DJ B.K.]

What mistakes has Bush personally made?

I hope your not going to pin faulty inteligence or abuse scandals as an error of the President.

OK, I'll admit that I didn't think before I posted. I don't really have anything to say about him that couldn't be easily refuted. I'm sure there is some stuff that could be debated and maybe someone else will bring something up. I guess I just wanted to get that off my chest.

 

[Veritas]

I just wish that Bush would admit the mistakes he made in this war.

Just like the terrorists admit their mistakes??? Ain't never happenin'.

 

[Dream]

OK, I'll admit that I didn't think before I posted. I don't really have anything to say about him that couldn't be easily refuted. I'm sure there is some stuff that could be debated and maybe someone else will bring something up. I guess I just wanted to get that off my chest.

Well I think I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were blaming the President for things he had no control over.

Even though I am against the war, it just agrivates me when people blame the whole weapons of mass destruction thing on Bush. He was given information and took the course of action which he felt was the most appropriate. I don't think it was the right decision, but he can't be blamed for faulty intelligence that was given to him.

But thank you for your humble response POD. I am the one who should be blamed for putting words into your mouth.

 

[Benedicta00]

I find your wanton neglect for the plight of the iraqis disturbing to say the least...

NO, I find your wanton neglect over being content with them continuing to live under Sadam’s rule disturbing.

Whether you or anyone else for that matter wants to admit it, Bush did Iraq and consequently the rest of the east a favor by ridding the Iraqis of their dictator but you see, this is the issue at hand, they can not ever recognize that because they live by a ideology that is not free. They can not comprehend what freedom is; this is exactly why they are against it and us.

The only true freedom is Christianity- it so free that under a Christian rule, one can be free to be Muslim. This is what they can not grasp, because their ideology teaches them that we are not free, that we are slaves to Islam and that the world is supposed to be Muslim and by violence they spread their message.

This is what the war is all about- this is our enemy, those who believe Christians and Jews should not be allowed to live peacefully in their world that they believe God gave them. It does not matter what soil we fight them on, so why not Iraq? They needed to be freed from the torturing and the starvation.

The only suffering that any Iraqi is doing over there now, is at their own hands, not due to the armed forces but due to the resistance not letting this country go, not letting freedom and peace reign there because they have no idea what that is.

And this is all I have to say about that, I do not like discussing politics with anyone for a reason and this is the reason. It always ends up bad.

 

[Benedicta00]

Exactly, DT. But you needn't add "radical". Islam itself is fundamentally anti-infidel. That doesn't mean most Moslems know it or live that way. In fact, "most Moslems" must make it clear to the extremists that they reject aggression as a part of Islam. That is the ONLY non-miltary solution to the problem.

There is some movement in that direction. Guess who has called for and facilitated "most Moslems" discussing this issue? Answer: Pope John Paul.

double post

 

[Benedicta00]

Exactly, DT. But you needn't add "radical". Islam itself is fundamentally anti-infidel. That doesn't mean most Moslems know it or live that way. In fact, "most Moslems" must make it clear to the extremists that they reject aggression as a part of Islam. That is the ONLY non-miltary solution to the problem.

There is some movement in that direction. Guess who has called for and facilitated "most Moslems" discussing this issue? Answer: Pope John Paul.

Very true, there is no radical Islam, there is only Islam and it is in no way a peaceful religion. There are peaceful Muslims, but the religion of Islam is not peaceful nor will it ever be.

 

[Benedicta00]

OK, I'll admit that I didn't think before I posted. I don't really have anything to say about him that couldn't be easily refuted. I'm sure there is some stuff that could be debated and maybe someone else will bring something up. I guess I just wanted to get that off my chest.

We all make mistakes, I guess he doesn’t think he has and should not be brow beaten in to admitting to he has if he does not feel he has. It is his prerogative to believe he did/is doing the right thing.

I get why he is doing this, I don’t think it will work right now but I do get it. But what kills me is, would him admitting a mistake make any thing that has taken place go away?

 

[D'Ann]

Greeting Shelb5,

We all make mistakes, I guess he doesn’t think he has and should not be brow beaten in to admitting to he has if he does not feel he has. It is his prerogative to believe he did/is doing the right thing.

I get why he is doing this, I don’t think it will work right now but I do get it. But what kills me is, would him admitting a mistake make any thing that has taken place go away?

Nope, the President of the U.S.A. does not believe that he has made a mistake by setting free the Iraqi people, and neither do I, nor do most of the military who volunteered to fight on behalf of the Iraqi people.

Even if the Democrats and/or Republicans admit that they have made mistakes... whatever those mistakes might have been or will be... will not effect what has already occurred in Iraq. What has been done, is done...

What would be nice at this point of time would be a joining of hands and all of us work together to accomplish the goal of giving Iraq a "FREED" AND DEMOCRATIC" nation. After all, isn't that what the Democrat and the Republican parties both stand for? - Freedom of Expression, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Religion...

God's Peace,

D'Ann

 

[Benedicta00]

Greeting Shelb5,



Nope, the President of the U.S.A. does not believe that he has made a mistake by setting free the Iraqi people, and neither do I, nor do most of the military who volunteered to fight on behalf of the Iraqi people.

Even if the Democrats and/or Republicans admit that they have made mistakes... whatever those mistakes might have been or will be... will not effect what has already occurred in Iraq. What has been done, is done...

What would be nice at this point of time would be a joining of hands and all of us work together to accomplish the goal of giving Iraq a "FREED" AND DEMOCRATIC" nation. After all, isn't that what the Democrat and the Republican parties both stand for? - Freedom of Expression, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Religion...

God's Peace,

D'Ann

Yeah, I’m having trouble understanding just what the complaint is, people are dying yes, but it’s a war. People were dying before and for no good reason, at least now they are dying for a future generation to live free even if they never do, someday this will pave the way for freedom in all of the east, not just in Iraq.

As much as I respect and love the pope, I can’t understand why JP is not for the removal of Sadam, maybe he is, I really don’t know and I do see how the overall war may not meet the just war doctrine but I still am not having trouble accepting it.

 

[Sil's Brother]

NO, I find your wanton neglect over being content with them continuing to live under Sadam’s rule disturbing.

Whether you or anyone else for that matter wants to admit it, Bush did Iraq and consequently the rest of the east a favor by ridding the Iraqis of their dictator but you see, this is the issue at hand, they can not ever recognize that because they live by a ideology that is not free. They can not comprehend what freedom is; this is exactly why they are against it and us.

The only true freedom is Christianity- it so free that under a Christian rule, one can be free to be Muslim. This is what they can not grasp, because their ideology teaches them that we are not free, that we are slaves to Islam and that the world is supposed to be Muslim and by violence they spread their message.

This is what the war is all about- this is our enemy, those who believe Christians and Jews should not be allowed to live peacefully in their world that they believe God gave them. It does not matter what soil we fight them on, so why not Iraq? They needed to be freed from the torturing and the starvation.

The only suffering that any Iraqi is doing over there now, is at their own hands, not due to the armed forces but due to the resistance not letting this country go, not letting freedom and peace reign there because they have no idea what that is.

And this is all I have to say about that, I do not like discussing politics with anyone for a reason and this is the reason. It always ends up bad.

What arrogant, ignorant, racist nonsence.

So by your reckoning the Iraqi people are too dumb to know freedom? The only true freedom is through Christianity? The American invasion and occupation resulting in the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis is a good thing and the widows and orphans should be grateful?

You bring the name of the Catholic faith into disrepute with such views...