SoldierOfSoul
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The Pharisees called Him a drunkard as a hateful slur and the writers of the gospels recorded it, what are you talking about?
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Wanting a Tattoo
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The Pharisees called Him a drunkard as a hateful slur and the writers of the gospels recorded it, what are you talking about?
I think its a good scripture to prove that the wine Jesus drank was one that contained alcohol, although you are correct the pharisees were calling him a drunkard.......which He wasn't
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Sketcher
Born Imperishable
The problem with this article's stance, as well as yours, is it claims tattooing is evil without actually proving it. I don't care what a tattoo meant 4,000 years ago. What matters is what it means today. There are quite a lot of tattoos out there that don't have the least bit of paganism attached to them. This includes tattoos that have God-honoring designs. While the article is correct in that a genuine Christian witness makes much more positive difference than a spotty Christian witness plus a Jesus tattoo, this fails to show that actually getting the Jesus tattoo in and of itself is evil. It would be no worse than getting a Christian bumper sticker for your car, or a Christian T-shirt - neither of which are my cup of tea, but you certainly wouldn't call them sinful.
Again, this article is trying to claim that tattoos are still wrong even though the New Testament doesn't condemn them - which is a weak and legalistic position to have. The New Testament repeats much of the teaching of the Old Testament, but oddly enough, tattoos are not included. While it does teach that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit and we are to honor God with our bodies, the assertion that tattoos are graffiti rather than a decoration relies on the premise that a tattoo is bad already. To avoid circular logic, you would need to find a New Testament prohibition on tattoos, similar to the New Testament's prohibition on fornication. You won't find it.
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Bella Vita
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Like I said in the beginning of this thread. Tattoos are highly debated but it all comes down to the individual. Tatoos are not mentioned in the NT as bad or not to do them. So it all comes down to a heart issue and the motivations for why you want them in the first place. One should pray about it before getting one and really take time to get one not just rush into it. As long as you aren't getting anything satanic and you aren't putting it above God in your life that is what matters. After all we as Christians are called to be in the culture we aren't suppose to disconnect from it completely.No one is going to agree here it seems the line has been drawn so I think we should all walk away. Sadly though the original OP has already been driven away from a tat for fear of sin so I think this one is case closed. =[
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that wasn't the point. U said my remarks were a dishonest statement. That's a lie. U owe me an apology.
Christ was a drunk (not technically. I just meant he drank wine) but that DOESN'T mean ALL Christians can become alcoholics.
I was simply using a figure of speech from scripture (which you just verified exists...so how would that be wrong on any front???) and I did emphasize NOT technically in parenthesis. One apology coming up. The point was WE can't grant ourselves the same leniency that GOD granted to Christ bc, again, u kept making this highly irrational, illogical connection that the passage in Rev in which we will all have the mark of GOD superimposed on our forehead (I know bc I went through the same procedure...I wrote about it on my about me blog a long time ago...a white dove carrying a red seal [the seal of GOD. Hint hint] flew into my forehead like what happened with Christ...); however, you are the one who kept twisting scripture and tried to sell us on the falsehood that this passage meant GOD would approve of some man-made tattoos with permanent ink and needles if you got a cross or something which represented your faith and Christianity. <<<<<<<<NOW that is a dishonest statement.
SOS, u r the kettle calling the pot black. If u don't see how offensive it is to call someone (you don't know) dishonest for no apparent reason, u need to study scripture more. Treat others the way you'd want to be treated and I would never bandy about such a term.
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SoldierOfSoul
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I've been thinking about this today and I agree terene that this was not a good comparison and I admit my wrong.
I was only trying to make a point about a "mark", but it was not a good analogy and those verses I quoted have nothing to do with tattoos.
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SoldierOfSoul
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He may not need to, but the point I was trying to make was that if it could help the preacher witness in anyway then couldn't it be justified in the hopes of winning souls for the Lord? Paul said this about winning souls:
"For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. Now this I do for the gospels sake, that I may be partaker of it with you." (1 Cor. 9:19-23)
Paul said he would take on the culture of any so long as he could win souls, if a person who has led a rough life and his ministry is to reach gang members and drug addicts a good way to reach those people would be through Christian tattoos.
Terene, you are really missing my point here.
Yes, I agree with this, if getting a Christian tattoo causes someone to stumble in the faith and you can prove it, I will stop making a case for it.
And that's my point again, if someone gets a tattoo to honour Christ and in hopes of using the tattoo as a witness to the world (as in the world who admires such things). How does this contradict your statement?
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Terene
Bondslave of Jesus Christ
I hope you saw my apology brother:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7567385-14/#post57718999Sorry if my post to you is judgmental, I mean no harm and I apologise for being quick to point fingers at you.May God have mercy on us.
Really sorry again.
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Terene
Bondslave of Jesus Christ
Maybe then you should take a look at the articles I linked here earlier on?
http://www.christianforums.com/t7567385-4/#post57705069
The articles I linked in this earlier posts of mine involved works written by famous tattooing artists/historians who actually admitted the EVIL roots of tattooing and how this is even so in the modern tattooing industry. You would think otherwise after reading these articles.
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This is how this thread got here.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7567385/#post57705161
The indecision to get a tattoo almost caused him to stumble in his walk with Christ.
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SoldierOfSoul
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I said getting a CHRISTIAN TATTOO. That is what I'm defending here, nothing else. The poster said he was just getting a tattoo but not one to honour Christ or to use as a witness.
OP:
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Where is my apology SOS? I guess if A tattoo can cause someone to stumble then I would think that would apply to ANY and ALL tattoos. But that could just be me. Keep working out all that compartmentalization in ur head and twisting scripture to make this logic pan out for u. Good job so far. I'm sure this thread could cause someone to stumble. Bc of u, they'll say HEY I DIDN'T hear this from GOD and NOWHERE is it written in scripture but this guy told me on an online Christian forum I can get a cross tattoo and everything will be ok..... Bright idea SOS.
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SoldierOfSoul
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What apology? About you calling Christ a drunk? I have no idea what point your trying to make with that, but it's bizarre, uncalled for, strange and still, yes, a dishonest statement.
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