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Here's what happened:

I was in my second year of Juilliard, studying to be an opera singer (which I am.. I got my bm and mm from there.) I was living with my girlfriend (now wife of 33 years). We would get into arguments about what religion my children would be raised if we got married. She wanted them "Christian" and I wanted them "Jewish". It was a sore point.

Meanwhile, going back in time, I didn't know this, but there were many people praying for me. I had won a talent competition run by a local newspaper called Newsday (Long Island, NY). People who knew me saw it an those who believed prayed. One wrote a letter to me, telling me that. My mother intercepted it when I was 14 and didn't show it to me until years later, way after I'd become a believer.

I always believed in God. I always wanted to know him and thank Him for the talent he had given me. It was funny. I had even worn tsit-tsit, for a week, when I was in sixth grade, as a way to show God that I loved Him. He was always "distant" to me, but I believed.

Skipping ahead to my second year of Juilliard, when I started my relationship with my wife... I'd go with her and her family to Christmas services at "Church" but felt very uncomfortable, like I shouldn't be there, but I went... reluctantly. Nothing there moved me.

Skipping a lot.. we were driving my in-laws back from "Jesus 78", because their Winnebago broke down. (My wife's brother and wife were into the Jesus movement and invited my mother and father in law to come with them).

On the way back my mother in law told me that she was at the Jews for Jesus booth and that they were praying for me. Huh. I thought. I never asked for prayer. How presumptuous!

On the long car ride home my mother in law asked me what I now know to be the CS Lewis question. Liar, lunatic or Lord? She asked me, if my philosophy allowed for Jesus to be a good teacher, what do I make of his resurrection. Well, I didn't know. I mumbled something and ended to conversation.

At that point, I realized I had NEVER READ THE NEW TESTAMENT! So, I sneaked a black leather bound bible downstairs where no one could see me reading it, where no one would know. I didn't want anyone to get their hopes up thinking I was becoming a gentile, because I wasn't. I just knew I wanted to educate myself so I could have an answer. I was curious to know what was in this book.

It was a translation called the Living Bible (paraphrased.. just as well, because had it used King James English, this might have been an entirely different testimony! :p)

I sat down and started reading. By the time I got to chapter 5-ish, The sermon on the mount, the words I was reading began to meet with agreement in the depths of my being. I was drinking it in. ... and deeply. I remember thinking that this was not an evil person, this Jesus. I remember thinking that the words I was reading were full of love and truth.

Just then (I kid you not), a presence hovered into the room and settled right above me (I was laying down on the couch reading). I couldn't see it, but boy could I feel it. I KNEW it was there. It was powerful, dangerous, and potentially threatening, yet brilliant, exciting and wonderful. That's the only way I could describe it at the time.

Just then, I had a genuine vision. Not one of those visions you get inside of your head when you're praying, this was out there. It was right in front of my eyes. It is as if someone rolled down two movie screens, one in the front of me to the right and the other in front of me to the left.

Then I saw it play out. On the left, I saw my family and friends totally rejecting me (which came to pass), and on the right I saw the Truth. (I'm still sobbing as I write this 35 years later... (Thank you, Lord for saving me. Thank you, Lord, for loving me enough to come into my darkness with eternal light and life. *sigh* Sorry... moving on.)

The Truth on the right was not just factual truth. It was true truth inside and out. It didn't have any gray area in it. It was perfect right-ness in a forever kind of way. It was truer than truth, it was THE Truth.

My response to that was.... I remember saying in my heart, "This is the truth, and if need be, I would die for it." I guess I was saying, I die to the left and live to the right? I don't know. God did/does.

Directly, at the time I uttered those words in my heart, that hovering presence entered my at my sternum in a flash. It was no longer outside of me. It was inside of me. I couldn't put the book down. I wanted more. Not just more knowledge of the book. I wanted more of that Presence. I was hungry. Very, very hungry.

I hid the book because I didn't want anyone to think I was a gentile. Honestly? I didn't know WHAT I was. I went upstairs and my girlfriend (now wife) took one look at me and said, "What have you been doing?" I said, "Nothing, why?" She said, "Your face. It's different." She said there was a calmness on it that she never saw before and there was actually a light coming off of it. (I tell you the truth. You can ask her.)

At that point, I had realized that she could see the glowing Being Who was not within me shining out, so I told her the truth. All of it. I told her I was going to live for Him and I did.

My parents rejected me, but came around to restoration of relationship later.. Many more miraculous testimonies there.

My girlfriend, who had been backslidden, rededicated her life to the Lord soon thereafter and we were married not to long after that.

That was a long time ago. Years later I'd received a miraculous calling to become a pastor. I am ordained and led a church plant for about 8 years. Lots of water under the bridge, but he we all are and He is Lord. You know what? I wish EVeryone would come to know the Living Lord in whatever way, so that they can also learn to have a relationship with the One True God.

There you go... :)

That was wonderful! Thank you for sharing. (And I understand about the outer Presence becoming an inner Presence and it actually being noticable.)
So glad the Lord led you here. I pray you stay and share with us more.
 
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Steven,
Can I ask you a question? (I'm going to assume you're sitting there nodding your head "yes.")
Are you a Jewish believer hanging onto your Jewishness? I think I read that in your OP, but I'm not positive that's what you said. (I have a habit of "seeing" things sometimes that aren't there, so I'm just asking for clarification.) If so, good for you! And your family will follow right along when they see that the most Jewish thing they could do is to accept their Jewish Messiah who never stopped being Jewish and who never taught against what Moses taught. Just pray 'em on in.
 
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Steven,
Can I ask you a question? (I'm going to assume you're sitting there nodding your head "yes.")
Are you a Jewish believer hanging onto your Jewishness? I think I read that in your OP, but I'm not positive that's what you said. (I have a habit of "seeing" things sometimes that aren't there, so I'm just asking for clarification.) If so, good for you! And your family will follow right along when they see that the most Jewish thing they could do is to accept their Jewish Messiah who never stopped being Jewish and who never taught against what Moses taught. Just pray 'em on in.

May i ask why you believe his family will also convert because he did?
 
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You mentioned they totally rejected you. Do you have connect with anyone? Siblings..cousins? Anything?
If I can add a question too, Steve....it seems as if you came from a secular background. I find it interesting that they reacted as they did when you converted. Do you know why they would cut you off? Did it take awhile
before they came to accept your decisions?
 
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I am not surprised at the reaction of the family. They saw in you not a religion but a changed being and they were afraid.
What do you mean by "a changed being"?
 
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You mentioned they totally rejected you. Do you have connect with anyone? Siblings..cousins? Anything?

I meant they disowned me. I was in Juilliard in NYC. They stopped supporting me and wouldn't talk to me.

If I can add a question too, Steve....it seems as if you came from a secular background. I find it interesting that they reacted as they did when you converted. Do you know why they would cut you off? Did it take awhile
before they came to accept your decisions?

I was brought up conservative Jewish.. and for a time we were orthodox.. Milk and Meat dishes for regular and Passover sets... The whole 9 yards, actually... Things changed over the years, though. They fell away from it and followed a new agey quasi-Jewish rabbi. They became interfaith ministers, oddly enough. That's quite another chapter.. we're talking a span of decades.

I am not surprised at the reaction of the family. They saw in you not a religion but a changed being and they were afraid.

Spot on. They even said so later.



What do you mean by "a changed being"?

2 Corinthians 5:17
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17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, [a]he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
 
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-offtopic- yet again :blush:
I wonder about that picture/signature thingy of the arm wrestle .
I would l love to find one that depicts the result of that wrestle .. you know - the one
where Yeshua has his heel on the head of the adversary ,absolute in his victory.
Genesis 3:15
 
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-offtopic- yet again :blush:

I wonder about that picture/signature thingy of the arm wrestle .
I would l love to find one that depicts the result of that wrestle .. you know - the one
where Yeshua has his heel on the head of the adversary ,absolute in his victory.
Genesis 3:15
What about one with His feet on the serpent's head?
[you have to look really close to see the head of the serpent tho] :angel:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7238619/#post59593329
Picture: The Scroll, the Serpent, and our Salvation


Originally Posted by GeratTzedek Get on your analytical "art appreciation" hats:
Little Lamb of Jesus has included in his tagline area a picture called, "The Scroll, the Serpent, and our Salvation." It got my interest. It is highly controversial due to some of its interpretations. For many people, none of these deeper meanings are readily apparent.

You never know why someone likes or hates this picture, and I thought it would be a good subject for discussion. Can you tell me what the images in the picture and their relationship to each other means to you?

5491435.jpg
 
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I meant they disowned me. I was in Juilliard in NYC. They stopped supporting me and wouldn't talk to me.



I was brought up conservative Jewish.. and for a time we were orthodox.. Milk and Meat dishes for regular and Passover sets... The whole 9 yards, actually... Things changed over the years, though. They fell away from it and followed a new agey quasi-Jewish rabbi. They became interfaith ministers, oddly enough. That's quite another chapter.. we're talking a span of decades.



Spot on. They even said so later.





2 Corinthians 5:17
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, [a]he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
thank you so much for testifying openly and freely .

folk can debate theory until their face turns blue .
but what happened to you - happened to you- and you have testified of it .

God bless you ever increasingly in Yeshua -his word made flesh now glorified in resurrection forever .
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LittleLambofJesus;61382103 i'll pm u re pic :)
 
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Dropping in for a moment (hey everyone! New granddaughter - 1 week today - keeping me busy!) Welcome Steve. Thanks for sharing. Slowly but surely our People are meeting Messiah. I love how He reveals Himself.


Congratulations!!
 
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