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I guess i must be pretty despereate to post something like this online but i'm running out of options. This site looked like a welcoming place with lots of active people so i'm REALLY hoping that you guys can help me! I think i'm going insane!!!

I've been dating this girl for the past 8 months, and before that we were best friends for about 5 years. I know it doesn't sound very long but it feels like we've known eachother for a lifetime. We got along with eachother so well, it was like nothing i had ever experienced in a relationship before. She is a very devoted christian and recently i confessed that i don't really believe in god. I come from a Lutheran family but i've never told them that i don't honestly beleive what they do. Since my girlfriend found out that i wasn't a christian, we've grown so far apart from eachother.

Many times i've told her that i want to beleive and she tries to tell me why she beleives. She ends up saying something like, "see all the good in the world, how could that happen without God?" I'm sure this means a lot to her, but it's not enough to persuade me. If i'm going to find God, i need some REAL answers!

I guess my biggest obstacle is the Bible. I'm actually pretty familiar with it, as i had to learn it as a child. But how do you know its the truth? The book is so old, and i find many parts to be confusing and self-contradicting to other parts. I just can't so easily beleive that it is all true.

We are growing further apart by the day, and i'm sure it will come to an end soon if i can't get on the same page as her. It seemed like such a perfect relationship, i don't want to give up on it so soon! PLEASE HELP!!!

All i need is a solid reason to beleive that God is real. I'm sure there's something solid out there somewhere. Huge thanks to anyone that can help! :help::help::help::help:
 

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I don't find it likely you'll become a Christian again, but I wish you good luck. Welcome to life as an admitted non-believer, however short your stay may be. If you do become a Christian again, please make an effort to not treat atheists and agnostics differently. As you can see from your personal experience here, it's much better if you don't. Everyone will be happier. Edit: Oh, and welcome to the forum. I expect some Christians will be by soon to help you where I can't.
 
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Roger516 said:
I guess i must be pretty despereate to post something like this online but i'm running out of options. This site looked like a welcoming place with lots of active people so i'm REALLY hoping that you guys can help me! I think i'm going insane!!!

I've been dating this girl for the past 8 months, and before that we were best friends for about 5 years. I know it doesn't sound very long but it feels like we've known eachother for a lifetime. We got along with eachother so well, it was like nothing i had ever experienced in a relationship before. She is a very devoted christian and recently i confessed that i don't really believe in god. I come from a Lutheran family but i've never told them that i don't honestly beleive what they do. Since my girlfriend found out that i wasn't a christian, we've grown so far apart from eachother.

Many times i've told her that i want to beleive and she tries to tell me why she beleives. She ends up saying something like, "see all the good in the world, how could that happen without God?" I'm sure this means a lot to her, but it's not enough to persuade me. If i'm going to find God, i need some REAL answers!

I guess my biggest obstacle is the Bible. I'm actually pretty familiar with it, as i had to learn it as a child. But how do you know its the truth? The book is so old, and i find many parts to be confusing and self-contradicting to other parts. I just can't so easily beleive that it is all true.

We are growing further apart by the day, and i'm sure it will come to an end soon if i can't get on the same page as her. It seemed like such a perfect relationship, i don't want to give up on it so soon! PLEASE HELP!!!

All i need is a solid reason to beleive that God is real. I'm sure there's something solid out there somewhere. Huge thanks to anyone that can help! :help::help::help::help:

I'll try to do my best to answer, who God is, what it is to be saved/christian, and how to me saved and the reason why you must be saved to enter into the kingdom of Heaven.

First, who is God. God is all good. What is good? Good is the right/perfet thing where only the best comes out of it. Perfect is where if its done perfect/right way (Gods way as God is all good) you will get good out it. Example, you plant two tree's, one you water everyday, feed it, take care of it (as this would be all good) and fruit comes out of it you can eat and taste good. You planted (which is good), you watered it/took care of it which is good), the result you get sweet juicey fruit to eat (which is good).
Another example, you drive by a person and wave to them (which is good)- result, you get a smile or a wave back (which is good) and you both feel good inside (which is good). Or you flip them off (which is bad/evil), result, they flip you back or worse, (which is bad/evil) leaving both anger, hateful and bitter, filled with evil (which is bad)
God being prefect/all good, what would he have done? So as one that is saved, to be christian is to be Christ like, all good, perfect (we are not perfect as we are still sinners as everyone is a sinner) but when we are given the choice we are to fellow Christ, to be like him and be good/perfect, to do the right thing. God never sinned, he allways and will forever be perfect, do good as this is who God! smiling To answer what it is to be saved or a christian is someone knowing and eyeing this true, that good only comes from good and God being all good is to be christian like and do good. Good is better then evil. Everything that is not of God is no good, no good can come from it, because its from God. Hence, stealing, lying, cheating, other gods/beliefs/religions and ect. Ever lie to your mom or dad, didn't feel right, like it was wrong and you felt ashamed. Not of God, it was no good, hence a sin. Ever steal, and ect. No good, evil/a sin. God hates sin, he must punition (sp) sin, we as people (do to Adam and Eve disobeying God (sinned) we all know are born sinners. (more too it then that, just giving you the short version) Not we are dead to God as we are sinners, to be with God again as Adam and Eve was before they sinned/disobeyed God, we must be forgiven. The only way we are able to be forgiven was to have a perfect sacifice. This was Jesus, Jesus came and died on the cross you all sins, why, so we can be with God again. There is one God, three person, as God is the father, God/Jesus the son, God the Holy Spirit. To have a relationship with the father our sins have to be pain for/forgiven. Jesus was perfect and died for our sins so know our sins are wiped away. Why did Jesus do this? Because God loves us. So we maybe with him. There much much more i would like to say, but i think you shoulder stand the reason to be saved and why we needed to, if you have more questions, please ask away.
Now, last but not least! What do you have to do to be saved? Easy, or i should say, Jesus made it easy, as he did everything, he took our place and said, this is a gift to you. Its a free gift and all you have to do is except it.
There are many ways you can do it, but its what in the heart that counts. Example, do you believe your a sinner? Yes, good, tell God your a sinner and ask for forgiveness, tell Jesus you except his free gift. Then repent, repent means, now instead of doing evil/sinning you want to do it Gods way, the good way, you be Christ like. Its not easy but you trust/have faith in God for the things you don't stand is the right way. (Gods way) and you fallow christian. smiling
Hope that explains it, God Bless you and hope to see you in Heaven. John

P.S. There is a differance in being saved (christian is another word for being saved) and a christian religion. I won't get into that but a religion is a belief you have to do this or do that to be saved. Jesus never said this, he said it was a free gift to those that believe in him. To believe in him is to believe good (Gods way or God as God is all good) is the right way and to reject sin/evil/the wrong way and fellow good/Jesus the right way. Its to do as Christ would do, as Christ is all good, its to do as Christ would do!
 
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Roger516 said:
I guess i must be pretty despereate to post something like this online but i'm running out of options. This site looked like a welcoming place with lots of active people so i'm REALLY hoping that you guys can help me! I think i'm going insane!!!

I've been dating this girl for the past 8 months, and before that we were best friends for about 5 years. I know it doesn't sound very long but it feels like we've known eachother for a lifetime. We got along with eachother so well, it was like nothing i had ever experienced in a relationship before. She is a very devoted christian and recently i confessed that i don't really believe in god. I come from a Lutheran family but i've never told them that i don't honestly beleive what they do. Since my girlfriend found out that i wasn't a christian, we've grown so far apart from eachother.

Many times i've told her that i want to beleive and she tries to tell me why she beleives. She ends up saying something like, "see all the good in the world, how could that happen without God?" I'm sure this means a lot to her, but it's not enough to persuade me. If i'm going to find God, i need some REAL answers!

I guess my biggest obstacle is the Bible. I'm actually pretty familiar with it, as i had to learn it as a child. But how do you know its the truth? The book is so old, and i find many parts to be confusing and self-contradicting to other parts. I just can't so easily beleive that it is all true.

We are growing further apart by the day, and i'm sure it will come to an end soon if i can't get on the same page as her. It seemed like such a perfect relationship, i don't want to give up on it so soon! PLEASE HELP!!!

All i need is a solid reason to beleive that God is real. I'm sure there's something solid out there somewhere. Huge thanks to anyone that can help! :help:

:wave: Hello, my friend....sounds like you need some real help.....I'll do my best:

First, let me give you the main reason that you need to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour. It isn't to make your girlfriend happy - it is only for you....your soul which will live forever either in heaven or hell.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Romans 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 10:9 & 10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

You might think that you are pretty good, but no person is good enough to go to heaven without Jesus. All because of Adam and Eve when they sinned or disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden.....the Bible tells us that because of Adam's sin, we are all sinners and sentenced to death.....not death of the body only, but also of the soul. When we accept the free gift from God, then we will not experience the second death, or hell.

Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

Ephesians 2:8 & 9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

My prayer is that you will see the need for your soul to accept Jesus. Hope this helps you.....:prayer:
 
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You may want to think about what you consider evidence.

When people pray, they have experiences which they often ascribe to God. That's a kind of support for their beliefs, although it is probably not an infallible one.

But... My advice would be to approach this as a philosophical question, not a historical one. When someone says "it's bad to kill", we don't sit around tallying instances of killing in history, looking for confirmation and physical evidence, to try to verify it.

The teachings of Jesus are a good way to live. If you live this way, you will probably come to understand what people mean when they talk about God.

I recommend you browse writers like Real Live Preacher, who are able to deal with how faith can exist in people who have doubts. Many people never have much in the way of doubts, and have a hard time relating to the question.
 
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Roger516 said:
I guess i must be pretty despereate to post something like this online but i'm running out of options. This site looked like a welcoming place with lots of active people so i'm REALLY hoping that you guys can help me! I think i'm going insane!!!

Ahh. We all go a little insane sometimes. My first advice for you is to relax! Welcome to CF! :wave:

She is a very devoted christian and recently i confessed that i don't really believe in god. I come from a Lutheran family but i've never told them that i don't honestly beleive what they do. Since my girlfriend found out that i wasn't a christian, we've grown so far apart from eachother.

Would your belief in God draw you closer to her, do you think? Seriously think about the two situations you have going on here as seperate issues. While I understand that she may prefer to be with another Christian, wanting to believe in God to get closer to HER is probably not the best reason to go searching. Dig deep for your own relationship with The Lord. It needs to be even more important to YOU than it is for her that you do!

Many times i've told her that i want to beleive and she tries to tell me why she beleives. She ends up saying something like, "see all the good in the world, how could that happen without God?" I'm sure this means a lot to her, but it's not enough to persuade me. If i'm going to find God, i need some REAL answers

Have you considered going straight to the source and asking God for help in getting the answers? Have you prayed for His help with your unbelief? Would you consider going to church with your girlfriend to see if maybe it's not Christianity you're not buying, but the Lutheran approach to Christianity? Sometimes we find ourselves looking for the right thing in the wrong place. God gave you a free will. You can make a choice other than the one your family made with regard to which church you would attend. Has she invited you to attend with her?

I guess my biggest obstacle is the Bible. I'm actually pretty familiar with it, as i had to learn it as a child. But how do you know its the truth? The book is so old, and i find many parts to be confusing and self-contradicting to other parts. I just can't so easily beleive that it is all true.

I've run into a lot of people who fall into the trap of reading The Bible, interpreting it themselves, growing confused by what appear to be inconsistencies and contradictions, and giving up on faith altogether. In fact, I've stumbled through it myself.

In the Orthodox Church, we rely heavily on 2000 years of traditions, and the interpretations of the Early Church Fathers who were closer to the source of the writings, and therefore had a fuller understanding of what was actually written in The Bible. Remember, you are reading an English translation. Sometimes getting the lowdown on what was originally written in Greek can help clear up some of the confusion, which is what the Early Church Fathers did for us. The priests in our church are our guides, staying true to those interpretations, so as a Church, we are all reading and learning and KNOWING the very same Bible, and worshipping the exact same God, just as the Apostles taught us. Just like them. :crosseo:

Yes, the book is an old one, and it gets older every year. For those who DO believe, it has stood the test of time, and is still as relevant today as it was when it was compiled.

We are growing further apart by the day, and i'm sure it will come to an end soon if i can't get on the same page as her. It seemed like such a perfect relationship, i don't want to give up on it so soon! PLEASE HELP!!!

It may take awhile for you to get on the same page as her. If I were you, I'd set a short term goal of at least getting into the same BOOK as her. Seriously, bud, open yourself up to what the Lord can do. It's absolutely fair to ask questions. It is expected that, with this perfectly designed brain that we should try to create logical explanations for everything under the sun, but God is so far beyond what we could even pretend to be able to describe. He truly is indescribable. He is The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all of that. Three persons of one essence! How can we even wrap our heads completely around something this complex? He is everything you can imagine, and everything you can't! How do you describe an all-knowing, all-seeing, omnipotent Lord?

You don't really need proof. You need faith.

All i need is a solid reason to beleive that God is real. I'm sure there's something solid out there somewhere. Huge thanks to anyone that can help!

Here's one that worked for me. Do you really think human beings were accidentally created from muck?

Do you think we have no purpose? :scratch:

For me, the Truth began to unfold when I had to admit that the human species was far too perfectly designed to have come about as a consequence to some cosmic or primordeal mishap. So, once I accepted that we didn't slither out of a swamp, I HAD to believe that we were created. Who would you think that Creator could be?

I have to allow for some mystery here. I can't even begin to tell you how I think God created ANY of His creation, and who am I to demand that He explain it to me? He gave us His SON so that we might follow Him and grow close to Him again!

Look what we (man) did to HIM while He was with us! Not believing in Christ God after what we did to Him as a Man is like crucifying Him all over again, every single day. Wasn't it enough that he died on the cross once? The earth SHOOK when that happened! Some 500 people witnessed the Resurrected Christ. Not 5, or 12. 500 believers saw Him. St. Thomas asked for proof that he was truly the Jesus and The Christ, and was allowed to place his hand in the pierced abdomen of The Lord. Christ showed him his pierced hands. Doubting Thomases have always existed. Could you really ask Christ to reopen a wound just so you'd be satisfied that He defeated death by death and was Resurrected? Didn't He prove it already? Doesn't He prove that God exists?

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A lot of good advice.

Anyhow- about the Bible.

The Bible is a collection of books written over thousands of years. It is written from peoples experiences of God. They share what God did with each other and us. The Bible isn't out to prove God but to tell what God did.

The early Church didn't have the Bible, it just had the Gospel (lit goodnews). The New Testament is a collection of memoirs about Jesus ife on earth, the adventures of the Apostles and advice on how to life in a new life.

The message that was taught was that we need to repent (lit turn away from) our sins (lit evil), and that Jesus died so that we might be be free of sin and encounter God. This is the first step and does not need the Bible as such. It is extremely helpful guide to the pilgrim who sets out on a new life.

We read the Bible and find that our expereinces are similar to others, and how to make the most of this new life. But proof is in the pudding, or our own expereinces,
 
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Roger516 said:
I guess i must be pretty despereate to post something like this online but i'm running out of options. This site looked like a welcoming place with lots of active people so i'm REALLY hoping that you guys can help me! I think i'm going insane!!!

I've been dating this girl for the past 8 months, and before that we were best friends for about 5 years. I know it doesn't sound very long but it feels like we've known eachother for a lifetime. We got along with eachother so well, it was like nothing i had ever experienced in a relationship before. She is a very devoted christian and recently i confessed that i don't really believe in god. I come from a Lutheran family but i've never told them that i don't honestly beleive what they do. Since my girlfriend found out that i wasn't a christian, we've grown so far apart from eachother.

Many times i've told her that i want to beleive and she tries to tell me why she beleives. She ends up saying something like, "see all the good in the world, how could that happen without God?" I'm sure this means a lot to her, but it's not enough to persuade me. If i'm going to find God, i need some REAL answers!

I guess my biggest obstacle is the Bible. I'm actually pretty familiar with it, as i had to learn it as a child. But how do you know its the truth? The book is so old, and i find many parts to be confusing and self-contradicting to other parts. I just can't so easily beleive that it is all true.

We are growing further apart by the day, and i'm sure it will come to an end soon if i can't get on the same page as her. It seemed like such a perfect relationship, i don't want to give up on it so soon! PLEASE HELP!!!

All i need is a solid reason to beleive that God is real. I'm sure there's something solid out there somewhere. Huge thanks to anyone that can help! :help::help::help::help:

I really hate to say this, because, in the end, I would like for you to find God, and all that fun stuff.

But, my advice to you, is find someone that shares your faith, do not try to "Make" faith, for a "Here and Now" realtionship.

I say this only because, if the relationship goes sour, then so will your "Faith".

Sorry I did not give you the answer I expect you were hopeing for.

God Bless

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Roger516 said:
Thank you all for your answers. I'll see what i can do with them. Maybe you are right that i'm trying to find god for the wrong reasons.
Maybe, your current search was provoked due to your relationship with her, but God has intended it for good. Now that you have eyes to see your intentions and difference between your intentions and the calling to hope and faith in God, choice in sincerity of heart to seek hope and faith in God because out of our relationship with him comes love, peace, and joy. I write this so that you might have harmony with God as a present reality.
 
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Roger516 said:
Thank you all for your answers. I'll see what i can do with them. Maybe you are right that i'm trying to find god for the wrong reasons.
I'm sure God doesn't mind. It is the one eternal taingle that really does work.

God would have you love Him as much as your girl friend. Loving God helps you love others better. Especially when the tough times arrive.
 
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It could be that you are wanting to know more about God because you see Him shining through your girlfriend.

If you still live close to the church where you grew up, go back and speak with the pastor and ask questions. He would LOVE to talk with you! The scripture verses you learned as a child will come back to your mind and your pastor can give you insight to what Christianity is truly about.

Don't do this for your girlfriend and this is why I recommend you returning to your church instead of tagging along to hers. Do this because God is calling you back to Him.
 
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As far as the bible... on whether it is truth or not.

1. You have to first decide if it is the Inspired Word of God.

2. If yes it is the Truth, than all the Bible would be Truth. So you have to take or leave all of it, or it isnt the Truth.

Note: A truth never contradicts itself, so if you believe it is the Truth than maybe our understanding of the verse or the contexts makes it look contradicting.

3. If no it is not and is just another book. Things can be taken and others left.

4. If it is the Inspired Word of God it will have things in it that are only undestandable with the Spirit

1 Cor 2:7-14
"7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written:

“ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”[a]

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy[b] Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Gods word contains hidden wisdom that can only be obtained through his Spirit. And gain that knowledge and Spirit....

1. except Jesus as Lord and Savior of life, that you are a sinner, that he rose in three days. Holy Spirit is then imparted.

2. Ask for wisdom

3. Walk in that wisdom

remember we live in a 3-D world. God's Spirit and wisdom is 4-D. We must have and us the Holy Spirit[our connection to that 4-D] to know the things of God.

Also important!!

2 Cor 4:18
"18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal."

It seems you are looking for worldly understanding to solve a Godly problem. That is why faith is what pleases God because we have to step out of our brain and our understanding and ask in humility for a greater and fuller wisdom.

2 Cor 5:7
"7 For we walk by faith, not by sight."

Hebrews 11:6
"6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."

SO .... i am not going to go say.. GO PRAY AND READ YOUR BIBLE...... because you already know to do that. What i am going to say is many people here, even myself have been through the same thing.. and i am a pastor's kid. So what you need to do is start directing your studies and prayers or thoughts with faith rather than what you just see infront of you. I tell myself the same thing often.

because 2 Cor 10:3-5 "
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,"

2 Cor 4:3-4
"3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them."


SO claim with the name of Jesus your freedom, and that you eyes will become unveiled and that your gain Godly understanding and wisdom rather than man's understanding and wisdom. Just remember if you are saved you have all the power and authority in your mouth, so claim that freedom and understanding and press forward to the goal :)

~Natsumi lam~
 
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Roger516 said:
Thank you all for your answers. I'll see what i can do with them. Maybe you are right that i'm trying to find god for the wrong reasons.
If this woman can't accept you for who are (an agnostic), while its probably easier said than done, you need to let go. Otherwise, you'll end up resenting yourself and her ultimately.

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I am still learning new things from the Bible, and I have been reading and studing it for about 27-28 years. My first understandings and questions are completely different now, but I have found satisfactory answers to every question I ever had concerning the veracity of the scriptures. Over the years, and nearly every year since I first started, a new archeological find or scientific evidence would be revealed showing that what people used to believe as myth could now be considered as not only possible, but reasonable.
I have read many books written by PHDs and scientists who believe the Bible is accurate and as Holy, set apart, as the words within it claims. I have never been able to prove any part of scripture wrong, but have more often over time found it to be true and relable - especially all the parables envolving life scenes that we all encounter and play out in life.
Thge scriptures actually contain lots of information, but a simple message - telling us that true love towards a neighbor never lets him go hungry, without clothes, without shelter, or without fellowship and love. It tells us that we never lose our debt to all men to love.....a very simple message, yet one the world seems unable to comply with no matter what fancy new technology it comes up with. Evil - greed, selfishness, ego, fightings, war, death, merchandising for power, all that is against true love, seems to be what the world displays as normal, exactly match the desription given the world by the Bible.
I've come to read the words of God with awe and wonder in my heart even more now - especially now that I am begining to see how accurate the prophecies are in the Bible concerning the very days we live in since 1948, when Israel once again became the nation that the Bible said it would be. I found by going back and looking at the Old Testament again, that our roots as a nation blessed upon the earth, the "New World", was not an accident, but promised to Israel as the "pleasant place" they would dwell and have the freedom to become "sons of the Living God".
Take the words of God seriously and prayerfully, asking for God's Spirit to unlock what cannot be understood by the natural, carnal man that is dead spritually. What is of the Spirit can only be discerned by the spirit, and that is why Jesus told Nicodemus that we must be "born again" - born spritually. Ask God to be born again and see if you do not begin to understand and see better by faith, growing in faith and in His grace towards His light. It doesn't happen over night, usually, but with God, nothing is impossible. Ask and receive.
Also try a newer translation in modern English. It helps a lot. My first was the Amplified Bible, but I come to love the King James for its ease to memorize. I hope you learn and grow in faith, especially in these days where the battle rages in Israel.

1Co 2:14 But people who aren’t Christians can’t understand these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them because only those who have the Spirit can understand what the Spirit means.

John 3:5 (NLT) Jesus replied, "The truth is, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.
6 Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven.
7 So don’t be surprised at my statement that you must be born again.
8 Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it is going, so you can’t explain how people are born of the Spirit."


Mt 7:7 ¶ "Keep on asking, and you will be given what you ask for. Keep on looking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened.
 
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eqman855 said:
If this woman can't accept you for who are (an agnostic),
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actually under God's requirement a christian CAN NOT marry a non-christian.

A christian can not be unequally yoked!

either he has to except Jesus as your Lord and savior for his own eternity.. then she can marry.

If not he has to let her go unless he wants her to disobey her God.

~Natsumi lam~
 
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Roger, listen carefully this is important. Let your girlfriend know of this scripture: 1 Corinthians 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

Your girlfriend seemed to care for you much before you told her of your belief. She shouldn't let that stop her from loving you. Tell her that maybe God is using her to help you, she should set the Christian example for you. She should also be patient with you for it is up to you and God if you should believe. God does not want to interfere with love, God promotes love, He doesn't want to deprive you and your girlfriend from loving each other if that's what you both want. If you really want to give Christianity a shot, then go for it. It's as simple as acknowledging his existence. I once was an atheist and was terrifed of lies in the church and the Bible. Pray to God to let you know the truth, let him know you don't want to be lied nor do you want to believe lies. All you want is the truth..don't give up my friend. I promise you He'll answer..God Bless You and your lady...
 
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GodHelpUs said:
Roger, listen carefully this is important. Let your girlfriend know of this scripture: 1 Corinthians 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

Your girlfriend seemed to care for you much before you told her of your belief. She shouldn't let that stop her from loving you. Tell her that maybe God is using her to help you, she should set the Christian example for you. She should also be patient with you for it is up to you and God if you should believe. God does not want to interfere with love, God promotes love, He doesn't want to deprive you and your girlfriend from loving each other if that's what you both want. If you really want to give Christianity a shot, then go for it. It's as simple as acknowledging his existence. I once was an atheist and was terrifed of lies in the church and the Bible. Pray to God to let you know the truth, let him know you don't want to be lied nor do you want to believe lies. All you want is the truth..don't give up my friend. I promise you He'll answer..God Bless You and your lady...


Remember this ONLY applies if both were unsaved and then while they were married one got saved!!! Not one unsaved and one saved before marrage and then the christian disobeys God and marries and non christian. Look at the verse it speaks of HUSBAND AND WIFE>>.. already married.

Remember this is more important.
Follow God first... dont conform the Bible to your wants. Then follow your heart if it lines up with the word!!

PS. the last part about the 'He doesn't want to deprive you and your girlfriend from loving each other if that's what you both want.' This is false i loved two men and i had to choose one because the government and the guys made me choose. I really loved both but i couldnt do it because GOD SAID NO. God is first , wants are second. Or i would be married to both because ' God didnt want to deprive me of my love for them' . WOuld he rather go against his own commandments for love?

Also, just because you conform the Bible to your wants doesnt change the truth that God said 1. DO NOT become unequally yoked. 2. If they are MARRIED ALREADY and one becomes saved... then one sanctifies the other. Remember the verse you posted is about marriage not while you are dating!!!

~Natsumi lam~
 
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