Insisting you have the evidence is no substitute for actually presenting evidence.
Nice try, though.
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Insisting you have the evidence is no substitute for actually presenting evidence.
Nice try, though.
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Insisting you have the evidence is no substitute for actually presenting evidence.
Nice try, though.
I agree 100%, if my goal was to actually prove my position to someone else. Furthermore, even if I posted comparison prices, I could simply be making them up and that would not be empirical evidence either.
Since that is not my goal and I have no interest in that being my goal, I will continue on my merry way and will buy products for less at walmart.
Is that ok with you?
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Thanks for posting that I was unaware of it. You're right that's all a person needs to know.
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Why is everybody always hatin on Walmart? How are they any different than any other non-union store? How are they different than JC Penneys, target, Sears, etc.
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In general, Walmart does more damage to local businesses by offering things at prices that the locals cannot compete with. They also have a bad reputation as far as employee treatment goes.
If JCPenney's or the other stores do the same thing, then they are in the same boat, it's just that Walmart makes a bigger splash due to the sheer size of the franchise.
If JCPenney's or the other stores do the same thing, then they are in the same boat, it's just that Walmart makes a bigger splash due to the sheer size of the franchise.
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Of course walmart does damage to local businesses that charge more for products, but is it bad for the consumers to have more disposable income to spend elsewhere because they are saving money?
Is it bad that walmart employees people who likely can not get work elsewhere and would probably be unemployed? What does walmart pay in local taxes compared to the other local businesses?
There is much more to it than another local retailer being hurt because they have higher prices.
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No, it's not bad for them to have disposable income, but the small business damage is a pretty big deal to some people. It discourages variety and those who want to open up a store locally that sells things similar or equal to what Walmart already has. This can, depending on how much Walmart pays in local taxes, siphon money out of a local economy (particularly an issue for smaller towns I'd think).
Most likely, those people who would supposedly be unemployed otherwise would be working at an equivalent local store instead.
I'm not really up for debating more on why people think Walmart is bad, I'm just giving examples of what people say. There are two good sources for this, I think:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Walmart
Is Wal-Mart bad for America? | Debate.org
The main issues seem to be:
-Unfair treatment of employees
-Most goods are Chinese imports
-Puts local businesses out of business
The only positives I've seen are that it boasts low prices that help low income families stay afloat, and that it creates many openings for jobs.
Most likely, those people who would supposedly be unemployed otherwise would be working at an equivalent local store instead.
I'm not really up for debating more on why people think Walmart is bad, I'm just giving examples of what people say. There are two good sources for this, I think:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Walmart
Is Wal-Mart bad for America? | Debate.org
The main issues seem to be:
-Unfair treatment of employees
-Most goods are Chinese imports
-Puts local businesses out of business
The only positives I've seen are that it boasts low prices that help low income families stay afloat, and that it creates many openings for jobs.
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There are plenty of other business that are in the same boat as Walmart. To pick on one and ignore the rest isn't fair. Why not villify all the non-union retail stores and resturants?
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Yeah; it's bad for the business that want to charge more for their products than they are worth. Who else is going to complain about low prices?
If people want that kind of variety, they will shop at those stores. If they don't want it, then maybe they are selling stuff nobody wants! maybe they shouldn't be in business.
How do they siphon money out of the local economy? Of anything they add to the local economy. People travel far and near to go to a Walmart. When they do this they also visit the local business near the Walmart as well.
Many local stores require experience before they hire you. It is easy to get a job at Walmart. Many people will use Walmart as a means of learning a skill then they will take that skill to a Fred Meyers, Kroger, or some other Union retail store that pays much more and get their foot in the door of a job that pays better. Anybody working at Walmart for 15-20 years without trying to get a job anywhere else only has themselves to blame if they are complaining about their pay.
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