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I'm 28 and am still waiting. I have been in a courtship before and unfortunately, it did not work out. Before we were engaged, an old friend from university came back into his life and after a period of confusion (about which he was honest) he chose for her. It hurt like something I can not describe, but both he and I are so endlessly grateful that both of us have chosen to wait. He is engaged to that other girl now, and we still are friends. I don't think that would be possible if we had been sexually active.

I strongly agree with Geocajun and Shannon here in the difference between dating and courtship. There's a great article about dating often being a 'training for divorce', after all... you're 16, you're in love with a guy, you date, you are hopelessly romantic, you go out with eachother you dream of weddings and babies, and after three months you find out he 'isn't the one', and break up and go to the next guy. And the next guy.... Untill... when you are ready to marry you find a nice guy and you decide he is the one. And you get married. And of course you have your quarrels but things are really nice. And then when you hit a really rough spot... it's easy to think 'he may not be the one after all' so why not go on and look for the next one because this obviously was not what marriage was for.

Courtship on the other hand is waiting till you are ready to commit yourself to marriage before starting to do what is generally considdered dating. And then only a courtship will do with someone you know from the start might be someone indeed that you will end up marrying. Of course, even then things might happen that make your first courtship not the one you will eventually marry. The commitment to courtship is a serious... investment and investigation so to speak before you sacramentally bind yourself to eachother.
Sounds boring? I can tell you it's the most romantic and uplifting experience. I am grateful still that I have waited for courtship instead of dating around, and even though I'm 28, I'm even more grateful that I have not given my virginity (even though I was courting, of marriable age, AND in a serious relationship). Now I will never have to have the memory "I love my husband deeply. I'm so grateful that I married him. And he is the second best lover I ever had in my life."

What to do against temptation? Pray... and inundate yourself with good material. You won't feel half as tempted to be sexually active prematurely after seeing "A walk to remember" than after seeing the latest run of the mill movie in which everyone seems to investigate the others toncils from close by.

Surround yourself by things that may be helpful and try to... take joy in resisting the temptation. This pledge is a wonderful one: http://www.texlife.org/docs/girlpledge.html. I don't always favour the wording of chastity pledges, but this one focusses on a sense of... purity and Ladylike behaviour, but also a joy in that purity. Chastity rings can help. You don't need an elaborate ceremony or a program. (though for some it can be suportive and helpful). If you say your boyfriend is respectful of your chastity, ask him to be present. If your parents are suportive, you can ask your father or your mother to be the one who puts the chastity ring on your finger. That way you always have a reminder. I know that mine helps me not to think of chastity as a never ending task, but as a never ending joy.
I am a virgin... I run through the world as a maiden (I love that word) the way God has created me. And one day -if it is his will- I will unite with a man and bond together in the most intimate way, and -again if it is his will- life will come from us, from him and me. What joy and what celebration will be in that. But at the same time: what joy and celebration is there now in my purity (even if I am 28 years old, even if I should be 50 years old) each day of my life is a feast for the Lord in offering myself to him the way he has made me. Try to... 'feel' like a maiden. Like a lady. It will give you a glow of warmth and of love that is more atractive than anything I can name and the joy within it will help giving you strength against temptation.
 
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Ann M said:
Will they be allowed tio kiss? Or just hold hands?


And have you organized a chaperone yet?
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Yes, they can kiss... if they feel the desire, then they can kiss their mother, or me! and I can do my own chaperonin' ;)
 
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I personally made a promise to myself that I wouldn't even consider going out with anyone less than a devout Catholic.

You should do the same, because seriously, there is no point going out with a bunch of secular people because at the end of the day they are not the same as us, they may "respect" our views, but that isn't good enough and it is certainly unlikely to pull a 60 year marriage and 5 good Catholic children out of.

And if you can't invisage that, then why even bother with "going out" with this guy- it seems like a waist of time.
 
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Markh said:
....it is certainly unlikely to pull a 60 year marriage and 5 good Catholic children out of.


Only 5? ;)





Your virginity is like the greatest gift you can give your spouse. You can marry them telling them "I went through many struggles, temptations, and opportunities, but I stayed strong and I'm completely giving myself to you." I'm sorry but I think that's a pretty amazing thing to be able to say!

Like some people have said, you probably need to analyze your relationship with him. It needs to be God-centered, praying that He is the guy God is directing you to for you to spend the rest of your life with!! :)


Good luck. :thumbsup:
 
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CG, if his words say one thing ("I respect your position") and his actions say another (pressuring you), remember that actions speak louder than words. I know it is hard, but "practice makes perfect" -- the more you speak up about it, the easier it will be to continue to speak up in the future.

I'd just echo what those here have said about reasons to wait, but you'll have to decide for yourseld if only considering those who are also Catholic is the way to go for you. It wasn't for me -- I'm married to a lapsed Methodist, and there is absolutely no doubt in my heart that he is the man who God intended for me to marry.
 
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christiangirrl...you are only 16 right? I saw on the upper left of your post. Correct me if I'm wrong. But how old is your boyfriend? If he is 18 that is illegal for him to even be dating you and would be considered statuatory rape. But anyways, you are too young and have your whole life ahead of you to be thinking about sex. I am 25 and have only been in one relationship that lasted 3 months. Out of respect for my girlfriend we did not have sex and wanted to wait until after marriage if that was in God's plan for us. Well that didn't work out and am happy we did not have sex.

Read this article about "Sex and Holy Purity."
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kralis/041019

Hope that helps
 
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Wild_Fan4Christ said:
christiangirrl...you are only 16 right? I saw on the upper left of your post. Correct me if I'm wrong. But how old is your boyfriend? If he is 18 that is illegal for him to even be dating you and would be considered statuatory rape.
I don't think it's illegal for them to be dating eachother, but it would be considered statuatory rape if they had sex.
 
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CG,

My life is a testament to doing thing's my way as opposed to God's way...and i can tell you that there is a seriously high price to pay for living such a life. Sex is never just a physical act...that physical act, will remain with you for many, many years if it is not within the context of marital relations.

you have something wonderful, you have the feeling of being morally clean and untarnished...just one pre-marital encounter could leave you feeling dirty and guilty...i'm 36 and i still feel disgusted with myself for my pre marital relationships and encounters, over half my life ago.

It's also a very important point that you really need to think about why you are dating...is there a future for your relationship, is your boyfriend prepared to wait until you are married to have a sexual relationship with you ?

One last piece of advice...NEVER have sex with a boy because you fear losing him...because you can go ahead and do that and there is absolutely no guarantee that your relationship will progress to marriage.

I seriously recommend a great book Called, 'If you really loved me', i think it's available through catholicanswers.com and Amazon. I have a copy, and i find it's chapter on Renewed Purity wonderfully inspiring, i hope you never have to read that part, that you won't make the same mistakes that i have made :)

God Bless.
 
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DreamTheater said:
I don't think it's illegal for them to be dating eachother, but it would be considered statuatory rape if they had sex.
You are correct :thumbsup: Ok, to date but not sex. However, I would not allow that to happen if I found out my little sisters were dating over a guy over 18
 
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christiangirrl...you are only 16 right? I saw on the upper left of your post. Correct me if I'm wrong. But how old is your boyfriend? If he is 18 that is illegal for him to even be dating you and would be considered statuatory rape.


I believe that this varies state to state. In some states the age of consent is 16 and they can have sex with anyone without it being statutory rape. Last I heard in Iowa there was a 5 year age cushion, where if the girl was 16 the guy could be as high as 21 no problem. Because some couples actually meet in school and via mutual friends despite their (relatively small) age difference.

I believe my brother and his wife are about 3-4 years apart, I think he finished his junior year of college when she graduated from high school... they met at high school before he went on to college.


So I would be wary to say it is illegal to date (or anything else) based just on a small age difference such as 18/19 to 16. The big concern with those laws is to keep away predators (esp. teachers, coaches, etc.) from taking advantage of students, not to micromanage if a barely out of high school young man and 16 year old girl can date.


As far as christiangirl's OP goes. I am not sure it is a good idea for young people to date rather than just hang out in groups, esp. in high school. There is no chance someone in high school is going to be ready to be married and have a family, which is what we should be looking for in a dating relationship. I went out with a guy a few times, even though that desire was there I was so scared (him too) we didn't even hold hands, I had to clench my teeth to keep them from chattering ... and fortunately most of the guys I knew were just not the kind of guys to try anything.


Best advice is don't drink and date, don't even drink and dance.

Marcia
 
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faerieeva said:
I strongly agree with Geocajun and Shannon here in the difference between dating and courtship. There's a great article about dating often being a 'training for divorce'

Courting may be a bit extreme for a lot of teenagers nowadays.

There is a point there though, in that courting prevents you from being in circumstances that cause risk. I think that is really the key to it. If a teenager is interested in having sex, they know exactly which people are interested and which places to go.

Courting may seem like going a little too far, but certainly avoiding the wrong people, places and circumstances is a more realistic solution.

Personally, I'd want any daughters I have to have their own cars so they never are in the same one with their boyfriends :)
 
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stray bullet said:
Oh, and living in a small town, also a very bad idea :)
Amen! I can't think of one thing we could've done around my town to kill an evening that was legal and moral. If you didn't want to sin or break the law, you were pretty much limited to driving around watching everyone else drive around. Of course you couldn't stop without getting hassled by the police. My kids will grow up somewhere that has, at the very least, a movie theater and a restaurant.
 
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ufonium2 said:
Amen! I can't think of one thing we could've done around my town to kill an evening that was legal and moral. If you didn't want to sin or break the law, you were pretty much limited to driving around watching everyone else drive around. Of course you couldn't stop without getting hassled by the police. My kids will grow up somewhere that has, at the very least, a movie theater and a restaurant.

Heh, reminds me of when I was a teenager in the back of a parked car in a small town I was visiting. I met up with a local girl (with a lovely rural accent I might add) and she showed me where all the kids drove out in the woods to get away from parents and school. That was probably the only entertaining or exciting place there for them.

Yeah, I won't be raising a family in a small rural town.
 
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CG, one other thing I forgot to mention in my posts, is that if you do continue to date this guy, you need to be extremely careful that you do not find yourself alone with him. You are only setting yourself up for trouble if you do that.
Always make sure you are out with friends who share in your Catholic moral foundation.
 
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