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[RedPonyDriver]

Ya know...since I don't really have the time nor the desire to type out an essay attempting to debunk your one-liners, I would invite you to look at the economic data for Democratic vs. Republican administrations from 1950 to now. I would also invite you to go back and look at the things said about Bill Clinton. Same stuff, different day. I'd also like you to look at the predictions that were made regarding the US economy if Obama were to spend 8 years in office and see how many of them came true. Then...let's discuss...OK?

Do your homework first...

 

[Albion]

Ya know...since I don't really have the time nor the desire to type out an essay

Yeh, we know what that means.

Don't worry. I won't rub it in, even though you're still here, online at CF, 24 minutes after writing that.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Yeh, we know what that means.

Don't worry; I won't rub it in.

It means that in about 30 minutes I have to leave and go to the couples' group sign up at church. It also means that I have to get ready to start my week.

It means that I am not going to discuss this with you further because there is nothing I can say or quote that will make you look at another POV from a rational view.

You like your ideology...great...I think it stinks...but...it's what you want to believe...so go for it.

 

[Albion]

The LAST thing I want is a theocracy...

And...what about the millions of people who DO NOT subscribe to your particular brand of Christianity?

Huckabee is a follower of a man named Bill Gothard...that's bad news.

Santorum is a fundamentalist Catholic...bad combination

Ben Carson was a Seventh Day Adventist...not exactly mainstream Christianity there

Bobby Jindal's Louisiana is near the bottom in all measures of success.

No thanks to any of them...NONE of them are presidential material.

It's really interesting the way people have to spin and sort facts in order to skewer the politicians of the opposite political party. For example, here we have Ben Carson described as out of the mainstream of Christianity for having been a Seventh Day Adventist, although he's undeniably at the TOP when it comes to "success." Meanwhile, Bobby Jindal, who was paired with Carson, can't be accused of anything out of the ordinary, religiously speaking, since he is a Catholic. Therefore, he's denounced instead for being a Louisianan, even though he's a much better governor than the average for that state.

"Whatever works. "

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Let's look at facts. Ben Carson was a innovative and successful neurosurgeon. Does that qualify him for national office? Umm...I don't think so.

Bobby Jindal has trashed what was left of Louisiana. Scott Walker is destroying Wisconsin, Jeb Bush is as big a moron as his brother and his daddy.

Go look at the FACTS here...economically speaking, Jindal, Walker and Bush have destroyed their states. Louisiana, near the BOTTOM in poverty rates, near the TOP in teen pregnancy rates, near the BOTTOM in educational achievement.

Walker...defaulting on a 108 million dollar debt payment that the state of Wisconsin owes. Came into office with the state running a surplus, now about 250 million dollars in the hole.

Do you REALLY want these folks in office? Or are you just praying to the holy "conservative" trinity of "pro-life", anti-welfare, anti-gay rights?

 

[Albion]

The main point probably ought to be that this thread is now entirely political and should not be in the Conservative Christianity forum if it's to go forward.

 

[RedPonyDriver]

Yeah, everyone should vote for this "Christian Conservative"....

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State Rep. Justin Harris and his wife adopted a young girl through the state Department of Human Services. How did she, six months later, end up in the care of a man who sexually abused her?

 

[MrJim]

Maybe we, as a church, can discover that our future doesn't depend upon gov't officials...

 

[leematthew1234]

Place your trust in God to put in Office the person He will have or allow to rule. We should not risk voting against the will of God.

Things are unfolding in the world to indicate the end of the End times, I believe, and God is not looking for us to try to make this a better world, but get into conformity to God and His purposes for us. God says "the world is condemned already". The Bible really calls us to be separate from the world's ways --only to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" things. That is my view.

In the creation poem at the beginning of the bible, God brings order out of chaos by creating. God then creates humans in his likeness and when he creates humans he tells them to subdue the earth. This phrase, when taken in context, indicates that God invites humans to be an active part of the continuing work of creation; he invites humans to bring order out of chaos. God invites humans to partake in the sacred task of restoring and renewing creation. To be a christian is not to believe in a certain moral code so that when you die you can go to heaven. To be a christian is not to try to conform everyone to your belief systems and convert them to your religion. Thinking like this leads us back to the gates of Auschwitz and to the killing fields of Cambodia and to the impoverished streets of every inner-city in America. To be a Christian is not to look ahead and say one day through our progress we will escape and take all of the true believers with us. To be a Christian IS to recognize that the world is broken and desperately in need of repair. To be a Christian is then to recognize that the same brokenness that we see in the world is true of ourselves. To be a Christian is to realize that God has not given up on this world; that he has not given up on his creation, on what he said was "good". So God invites us to partner with him to repair this world. He invites us to fix the brokenness by us working to make this world like he intended it to be. We must become aware that God calls us into a partnership that fixes what is broken. That's the gospel. The cross on good Friday is a resounding symbol that God is committed to restoring creation; that God hasn't lost hope for this world. And when we see the empty tomb on Easter we recognize that God is actively rescuing and restoring his world. For God so loved the world, that he gave everything to rescue it. In the end God doesn't care what your political affiliation is. With one party you have strict personal morals and a religion that is about a private personal relationship; it's about being good, it's about an elephant. What this side fails to recognize is that, yes, God cares about morals but he also cares about those who are starving that you can help. With the other party you have loose personal morals and a religion that is active about ending injustice; it's about doing good, it's about a donkey. What this side fails to recognize is that God cares about our personal brokenness as well as the world's brokenness and injustice. When we see the world this way, we become open to what God can do. We start to care about the guy next to us but we also recognize that we also need to be renewed. When we partner with God, God can restore his creation to what it was meant to be.