Voices....My Solution has been deliverance.

[TheBigYin]

Does anyone here have any views on the whole medical / physical / psychological side vs the spiritual side?

I also suffered from "MPD" and hearing voices etc until a few months ago. There were times when I would blank out completely and afterwords my partner would tell me that I'd self-harded, or that I'd attacked her and talked in strange voices...I can remember little flashes but nothing in great detail.

I've the scars on my body, and "come round" many times to a wrecked appartment or covered in blood.

I know that since I left Satanism, and started following Jesus Christ and have been getting prayer for deliverance / exorcism these things have almost stopped completely and I feel so much more at peace.

Has any had this experience or considered that a spiritual remedy for these issues exists?

 

[Jeshu]

Hi,
It is very interesting that you should mention Satanism as the main cause of your psychological problems. For indeed this is completely possible - it is even likely that mentally ill people -especially those who hear voices and/or have been in contact with Satanism or occultism - are selected for extra heavy symptoms when it comes to hearing voices or seeing things.
Your repentance to Jesus Christ would have laid many a voice to rest for Christ's Spirit brings inner peace and drives Satan - the liar, deceiver and destroyer out of our lives - making ample room for physical healing to occur. However if you are mentally ill then usually SOME of the symptoms will persist or come back when you cycle out of this time of stability into times of more conflict and unrest - for Satan is not the only one who speaks to our mind, heart and spirit - physical illness can and does this as well.

I suffer from chronic Schizo-affective disorder but in my youth also sought out Satan and tried to bargain for powers and control in return for my soul - what an incredible misery this thinking has brought into my life - for Satan doesn't keep his side of the bargain and seeks to destroy us instead. Jesus thwarted my plan to surrender to evil and led me to honesty, love and humbleness instead - much greener pastures - after my exorcism I lost much evil but other voices remained until medical intervention - I suppose the more evil and ungodly perished when Jesus Spirit within me arose and cast those unclean spirits out - but psychiatric drugs are used to keep the majority of mentally ill symptoms at bay inside of my mind - exorcism couldn't do that - as voices are caused through a physical defect in the brain. I think that Satan just uses voices to his advantage.

My conclusion on the matter is that voices can be both physical and spiritual - as a matter of fact physical illness can bring on voices and hallucinations - which work always spiritually within us - for that is how it goes - we live the voices and hallucinations - and that is spiritual - yet Satan uses this physical defect to draw us from the truth into the lie and into his control and misery of heart and mind.

(Great to hear Jesus set you free from these diabolic forces - please prepare for much battle as Satan will seek you out for special treatment as you sought him out and he knows your interest/weakness for his kind of spirituality. It took years to arm me against his horrific forces attacking me - especially in time of instability and illness.)

That God's peace my saturate your existence.

Gerry.

 

[lotuseskimo]

I consider a spiritual remedy, and do belive that that will be the only to save me, I studied astrology for a long time, and have turned from it, I hope over time the voices will go now, I do feel that also, my own ego reacting to the voices, getting angry over a random voice ect. , but mostly it will be the Lord as my way to healing.
I pray to be healed.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

It tried the medical route but found no relief there. The medications only made things worse by adding new problems while doing nothing about the original issues.

 

[TheBigYin]

One thing that I've become aware of.....it's amazing how often these voices *sound* like my own thoughts for instance...

"I hate myself"
"I don't feel close to God"
"I'm never going to see changes in my circumstances"

...and so on and on.

What I have come to believe is that these voices are NOT my own....and any attempt to treat them like another personality was (for me) wrong.
I can tell you something....the first time I went for deliverance the voices were so strong....it was like a radio in my head along the lines of

"This is a complete waste of time"
"Im an idiot for believing in this"
"Satan will never let me go"

....even in the middle of the prayer I heard a voice so clearly

"Dont worry Ill protect you - none of the demons will leave because God's power is weak"

But...when those things started coming out of me I can tell you it was no split personality - these were evil spirits that were tormenting me and trying to steal, kill and destroy.

I am not an expert, so would not presume to tell anyone that MPD or its forms are always demons, but I *would* encourage people that are seeing no "deep, inner, peaceful change" (my words) to pray and ask Jesus about deliverance.

Hope this helps someone today - may be sets you on a path that you'd not considered that may lead to total freedom.

 

[lotuseskimo]

ya know what? it was really healing to read your post, I have had schizophrenia for years, and I needed to hear that the really bad stuff, is not me

 

[DoubtingThomas29]

My medications keep my mental illness at bay, I am totally happy, to have my medications, I take the older meds so they are affordable.

 

[DoubtingThomas29]

I don't know what you are going through, but keep in mind you posted in the schizophrenia section, so this may lead people to believe, you have been diagnoised with schizophrenia, and talking aboutall this demon posession, is silly, there is no need to get all Linda Blair on us now. If you have schizophrenia, tell us about it, we are all ears, but nobody wants to hear about people being possesed by demons, that is weird, and not something mentally ill people should have to worry about in light of the advancements of western medicine.

Do you have schizophrenia? Then talk about that, it says schizophrenia section, where you posted, not demon possesion.

I have schizoaffective disorder, which is schizophrenia combined with bipolar. I was catatonic, and had paranoid delusions, like my dad wanted to kill me, I believed people were out to get me. I am relieved to know, that was all a problem of my brain, that has been fully corrected with the help of psychotropic drugs, and psychotherapy. I am all better, I just continue to take my medication, to maintain my sanity. I can even work full time as a math teacher, for a college, so these pills work great, let me tell you.

Remember we are suppose to talk about schizophrenia here.

 

[EternalMoment]

Hi,
I definetely believe that is a very true fact. Once you become christian you turn from carnal thoughts into Christ thoughts. Some people only go after medication, because they don't really believe this war exist you know? I was seeing demons and feeling persecuted since 1999 and delivered 2006 By Jesus Christ. I thought I was the only one experiencing this, until I heard there was something called possession and I also found out that there was something called schizophrenia and WOW how stricking similar are the symptoms, lol. So I will explain, this didn't happen because I just developed an illness RIGHT after playing obsessively with a ouija board. I believe it was witchcraft that brought in demons. Why do I believe they are demons? I didn't even know ANYTHING biblical when I was 12 in 1999. They demonic voices told me that they HATED the Blood of Jesus. So now, being Christian and knowing how powerful the Blood is, I realize that they were true demons because we all know they hate the Blood the most! I didn't even KNOW Jesus did this. What does that tell you? Those voices were not mine!! They were creepy and robotic. And if they sounded like my own, it would be because they were mocking me and needed me to take in there punishment. Sick and evil. They are tricky. Most people I talk to that are 'schizoprenic' have been involved with witchcraft. BIG coincedence? I think not. Believe what you want. But I know all I need is JESUS.

 

[sinneD]

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[EternalMoment]

why is that a bad thing? are not some schizophrenia people dealing with demons?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Dennis, no sections exist for those discussions anymore. The Deliverance Ministry, Deliverance Theology, and Spiritual Warfare sections have all been closed and removed.

Could you suggest one then, please? And honestly, as many people with schizophrenia experience what they perceive as demonic issues (even if they bes mentally ill and just delusional) and likewise we who bes inhabited often wonder whether we have not simply lost our minds, can there not be some viable cross-over discussion -- as long as no one gets "ugly" with one another or tries to define or diagnose one another here?

Just asking, not trying to make trouble.

Thanks.

 

[sinneD]

Yeah, since they closed some of those sections it leaves a gap. Let me ask one of the Admins

 

[Ave Maria]

why is that a bad thing? are not some schizophrenia people dealing with demons?

I don't believe that schizophrenia is a demonic problem. I believe it is a problem with the brain that should be treated using medication and therapy.

 

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