Virginia is in the Southeast?

[LuckyT]

sounds like our families aren't too far apart, hehe

 

[JOYfulbeliever]

I went to school in Harrisonburg at JMU. Charlottesville was our favorite hangout. They had decent shopping - at least more than the Walmart we had! From my understanding, the 'burg has built up a bit since then though. Those guys don't know how great they had it!

I have family in Mechanicsville!

 

[LovingMother]

Heh, it's a shame all these great little towns want to citify themselves. I am ready to move back out to the country.

 

[nicodemus]

Oh Lord I feel like Cliff Clavin, "It's a little known fact" but actually Kentucky was a member of the Confederacy. There are 13 stars on the Rebel Battle Flag yet Yankee textbooks list 11 Confederate States. Missouri and Kentucky did secede from the Union and sent delegates to the Confederate Congress, hence the 13 stars.

To throw out another bit of random trivia...Winston County in Alabama seceded from the Confederacy and joined the Union!

 

[LovingMother]

Poor misguided Winston Countians .....

 

[BarbB]

I went to school in Harrisonburg at JMU. Charlottesville was our favorite hangout. They had decent shopping - at least more than the Walmart we had! From my understanding, the 'burg has built up a bit since then though. Those guys don't know how great they had it!

My nephew went to JMU - I think he has one more course to finish. He's decided to stay and live there in Harrisonburg - manager of a Honda motorcycle dealership, I think I heard.

 

[BarbB]

Oh Lord I feel like Cliff Clavin, "It's a little known fact" but actually Kentucky was a member of the Confederacy. There are 13 stars on the Rebel Battle Flag yet Yankee textbooks list 11 Confederate States. Missouri and Kentucky did secede from the Union and sent delegates to the Confederate Congress, hence the 13 stars.

Funny story about Kentucky (which I love!!!!). My husband and I spent a week's vacation touring around Kentucky and stayed in a B&B in Bardstown. The proprietor was a nice older man who took us around his beautiful early 1800's house. We were looking at some framed documents on the wall, and he apolegetically showed us the discharge papers for his great-great-something from the UNION ARMY. LOL!

 

[Godschild]

I live in VA and I don't know what part VA is in.

 

[RadG]

Not to sound like a complete jerk...but there is no one in heck you are Middle Alantic...for crying out loud...you were the Capital of the Confederacy.....you were the FIRST confederate state....that makes you Southeast...

I always thought that the first was South Carolina since that is where it all started.

RadG

 

[LovingMother]

I always thought that the first was South Carolina since that is where it all started.

RadG

I believe you are correct, RadG. South Carolina was the first to secede and the original Confederate flag was solid (blue, I think) with a moon on it. Many people who live in Charleston, South Carolina still display that original flag. The Confederate capital didn't move to Richmond until later.

 

[nicodemus]

Confederate capital didn't move to Richmond until later.

First Confederate capital was in Montgomery, AL.

 

[LovingMother]

First Confederate capital was in Montgomery, AL.

Ah, sorry. I admit I am not up on my research on where it all started. I was relying on my father-in-law's vehement testimoney that everything started in Charleston and Fort Sumter. Do you know if the capital was in SC at some point before it moved to Richmond? Do you know if there was a flag before the moon flag the Charlestonians display?

One interesting piece of Civil War trivia - did you know that the Confederacy built and used the first american submarine? I'm not sure if they have published anything on their findings yet, but National Geographic has it in a big research tank down in Charleston. I went to see it about a year or two ago. I sure wouldn't have gotten into it!

Thanks for setting me straight, nicodemus!

 

[LuckyT]

I don't remember ever learning about the Confederate capital being in South Carolina. I know it was in Alabama, and Richmond, and at one point I believe it was in Georgia too....right? I should remember this stuff from US History last year (but I had a bad teacher when we did Civil War.) Oh well. I know the war started with the Battle at Fort Sumter after South Carolina was the first to secede. But that's all I know about that.

 

[LovingMother]

Now that I think about it, it seems silly. I know plenty about the end of the war, but I don't know much about the logistics of the beginning! I'll have to take some time and do some research ....

 

[nicodemus]

Ah, sorry. I admit I am not up on my research on where it all started. I was relying on my father-in-law's vehement testimoney that everything started in Charleston and Fort Sumter. Do you know if the capital was in SC at some point before it moved to Richmond? Do you know if there was a flag before the moon flag the Charlestonians display?

The current state capital of Alabama is Montgomery, and every school takes their kids to tour the capital at some point during elementary school. While you're down there, they take you on the tour of the first capital of the confederacy too, which is preserved.

 

[jukesk9]

To throw out another bit of random trivia...Winston County in Alabama seceded from the Confederacy and joined the Union!

I'm a bigger geek---I knew that

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I believe you are correct, RadG. South Carolina was the first to secede and the original Confederate flag was solid (blue, I think) with a moon on it. Many people who live in Charleston, South Carolina still display that original flag. The Confederate capital didn't move to Richmond until later.

South Carolina was the first to secede in Dec 1860, followed by Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. The war started in April, 1861 with the battle of Fort Sumter. North Carolina, Virginia, Tennesee, and Arkansas joined the Confederacy after the war started. Maryland wanted to secede, but Abe Lincoln threw some of the state legislators in jail, preventing a vote for secession. Kentucky and Missouri, the other slave states, never seceded. I don't know much about the formation of West Virginia.
The solid blue flag that your thinking of was called "Bonnie Blue"; it was solid blue with a single star on it. The first official flag of the Confederacy was the "Stars and Bars", but this looked too much like the union flag, so it was replaced with the "Stainless Banner"; this looked too much like a surrender flag, so it was voted to change it by adding a red stripe, but then the war ended so it was never officially flown.
South Carolina's flag has a palmetto tree and the thing that looks like a moon is actually a piece of armor that is worn like a collar to prevent deadly blows to the neck. These were symbols of strength and resolve in battle.

 

[Echoes Peak]

South Carolina was the first to secede in Dec 1860, followed by Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. The war started in April, 1861 with the battle of Fort Sumter. North Carolina, Virginia, Tennesee, and Arkansas joined the Confederacy after the war started. Maryland wanted to secede, but Abe Lincoln threw some of the state legislators in jail, preventing a vote for secession. Kentucky and Missouri, the other slave states, never seceded. I don't know much about the formation of West Virginia.
The solid blue flag that your thinking of was called "Bonnie Blue"; it was solid blue with a single star on it. The first official flag of the Confederacy was the "Stars and Bars", but this looked too much like the union flag, so it was repaced with the "Stainless Banner"; this looked too much like a surrender flag, so it was voted to change it by adding a red stripe, but then the war ended so it was never officially flown.
South Carolina's flag has a palmetto tree and the thing that looks like a moon is actually a piece of armor that is worn like a collar to prevent deadly blows to the neck. These were symbols of strength and resolve in battle.

Oh, what you learn on these boards.

 

[CTB]

Where in VA are you guys at? I'm in SouthEast VA - near VA Beach and about 10 miles from the VA/NC border

Cool! My folks live in Suffolk and I have family allover Tidewater. I'm currently in NOVA for an internship.

BTW...VA is most definitely SE!!!

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Cool! My folks live in Suffolk and I have family allover Tidewater. I'm currently in NOVA for an internship.

BTW...VA is most definitely SE!!!

I live in VA beach, 8 miles from ocean front.