Views on Hell and the problem with punishment

GrimKingGrim said:

The best path to happiness is self forgiveness and acceptance. It has to come from within and not from an outside party. Outside parties should add to your happiness but not be the main source.



I did too. Bullying isn't fun.



It has nothing to do with God. It shouldn't.

And don't force that type of guilt on yourself. Just love the memories you shared with her and honor them. Continue on in your life and be a person you believe your mother would be proud of. Continue to make her and yourself happy. It's what any mother would want.

I do the same for my grandfather, he died when I was 9. His death hits me harder than anything to this day. And I would give anything to have him to see me as a man today. But I can't change that, so the best I can do is live a life he'd be proud to see me living. And love every memory I had with him.




Because of my on conviction to not influence others philosophical beliefs I can't answer that with an answer. Those answers have to come from you. But at least you're asking the right questions.

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FireDragon76 said:

God doesn't have to threaten anybody, he offers salvation freely to those who would believe. The "threats" you see are merely the equivalent of a parent warning of consequences, such as running across a street without looking.

Within this life our freedom is not absolute. But that's part of being a creature. That doesn't make God evil.

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Kristin E said:

I appreciate the kind reply... You've taught me things even though we have different beliefs.

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GrimKingGrim said:

You're very welcome. I love to be a helping hand.

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Wryetui said:

That's your theory, but the evidence doesn't point at that. We have the testimonies of people claiming to talk and to speak with God, not even the writers of the Bible but even of saints today and in the past, so why wouldn't you believe them? You have no evidence that they were under drugs or smart people lying so they can get... wait, what exactly? What do they get? Nothing, so you just call them smart people lying, what's the evidence for that? Just because you don't believe them it doesn't make them liars, just because what happened to them can't fit into your biased brain it doesn't mean it isn't truth.

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Kristin E said:

Well if I get banned, thanks for at least being kind... I get a lot of flack for preaching Gods word...

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GrimKingGrim said:

Forum culture. If preaching gets you in trouble here then don't preach. There are other places to do that. And really what is preaching gonna do on a site that is majority Christian?

Ya don't gots ta try so hard!

Hope ya don't get banned though, the more minds for discussion the better.

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rockytopva said:

I heard of a man from England have a vision while sleeping. In his vision he descended into a black pit. While in there he started feeling hands sexually touching his body. When he awoke he said he started taking his religion more seriously.

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Is that heaven or hell, lol. The human psych is a diverse thing, dreams and the like are a reflection of the subjects digestion of information and imagery and they can relay back via dreams and vision etc.

I do not know the levels of torment in the afterlife. But I do know one thing, and that is God cannot have unrighteousness in heaven. If you die in an unrighteouss state your soul most probably will be carted to a place against your will.

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The bolded is not a bad place to start in my opinion.

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rockytopva said:

I heard of a man from England have a vision while sleeping. In his vision he descended into a black pit. While in there he started feeling hands sexually touching his body. When he awoke he said he started taking his religion more seriously.

For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. -Matthew 5:20

I do not know the levels of torment in the afterlife. But I do know one thing, and that is God cannot have unrighteousness in heaven. If you die in an unrighteouss state your soul most probably will be carted to a place against your will.

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