View on aliens.

[JackRT]

I think the slaves in the States (who I am all but sure were Hebrews) got this from oral tradition

Most African slaves brought to the Americas were pagan in the sense that their religious beliefs were mostly animistic and based on sympathetic magic. However a large minority were Muslim. It is virtually beyond belief that any were Hebrew.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Most African slaves brought to the Americas were pagan in the sense that their religious beliefs were mostly animistic and based on sympathetic magic. However a large minority were Muslim. It is virtually beyond belief that any were Hebrew.

According to who - the slave masters that sold them, or the slavers that bought them?

 

[JackRT]

According to who - the slave masters that sold them, or the slavers that bought them?

We are speaking of relatively recent history with lots of written records --- Spanish, Portugese, British, French, American.

 

[tatteredsoul]

We are speaking of relatively recent history with lots of written records --- Spanish, Portugese, British, French, American.

And all of those countries had a direct hand in the transatlantic slave trade, crowned themselves Hebrew descendants and therefore rightfully permissioned to do the things they did.

All of these countries heavily campaigned the scientific and ethical community of the time, asserting black persons were animals, and then demon seed descendants of Cain - with the mark being black skin.

These countries wrote the "relative histories" of the people and cultures they conquered. It shouldn't be expected that they write they took civilized, learned humans as slaves and treated them worse than cow dung.

They are going to say they liberated the tribal, animalistic "bone-in-nose" savages, and gave them an opportunity at a better life than their slavers in their home land gave them. Even to this day that is what people argue.

So, I ask again: was it the slaver who sold the Africans, or the slavers who bought them that perpetuated that narrative that the slaves were animalistic, magical pagans?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Let us stay on topic please.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Let us stay on topic please.

Sorry you are right.

Well, I think in the strongest terms aliens that interact with us here on earth are demonic and/or malevolent beings in general.

Just think of science fiction movies: only galactic marauders, evil-doers, slavers, murderers and oppressors purposefully and continuously interact with "pre-warp societies." Clearly, God had a universal "prime directive:" do not mess with the humans.

The entities that left their first estate realized they couldnt come back to heaven, so they tried to be worshipped as gods to us - an infant race of people.

I don't doubt there may be "life" elsewhere, but there is a reason we don't interact with them in the open.

It is interesting to note that in Enoch, God wasn't mad that the angels taught us how to make weapons, use magic, technology, metallurgy, and so on. He was mad because it was abominable for angels to teach this to us, and because we learned it prematurely. Not to mention our ancestors did this as carnal beings; they didn't even have the spiritual energy reserves to entertain these arts. It would be like us teaching ants how to power a nuclear reactor.

 

[JackRT]

And all of those countries had a direct hand in the transatlantic slave trade, crowned themselves Hebrew descendants and therefore rightfully permissioned to do the things they did.

None of the colonial nations were Hebrew descendants. The only African Jews were in Egypt and Ethiopia and these were not part of the slave trade to the Americas.

All of these countries heavily campaigned the scientific and ethical community of the time, asserting black persons were animals, and then demon seed descendants of Cain - with the mark being black skin.

Agreed.

These countries wrote the "relative histories" of the people and cultures they conquered. It shouldn't be expected that they write they took civilized, learned humans as slaves and treated them worse than cow dung.

Also agreed.

They are going to say they liberated the tribal, animalistic "bone-in-nose" savages, and gave them an opportunity at a better life than their slavers in their home land gave them. Even to this day that is what people argue.

Agree again.

So, I ask again: was it the slaver who sold the Africans, or the slavers who bought them that perpetuated that narrative that the slaves were animalistic, magical pagans?

I am referring to historical demographics. There is no doubt that many of the slaves taken from northwest Africa were civilized literate Muslims. Those from further south and from the interior mostly were pagan. A Christian would have been rare and a Hebrew almost impossible.

 

[tatteredsoul]

None of the colonial nations were Hebrew descendants. The only African Jews were in Egypt and Ethiopia and these were not part of the slave trade to the Americas.



Agreed.



Also agreed.



Agree again.



I am referring to historical demographics. There is no doubt that many of the slaves taken from northwest Africa were civilized literate Muslims. Those from further south and from the interior mostly were pagan. A Christian would have been rare and a Hebrew almost impossible.

There are many African Hebrews, and they aren't just Ethiopian. Not by a long shot.

Israel has been exiling and killing ethnic Hebrews for a while.

I think we should make a new thread.

 

[JackRT]

There are many African Hebrews, and they aren't just Ethiopian. Not by a long shot.

Israel has been exiling and killing ethnic Hebrews for a while.

I think we should make a new thread.

WE?

 

[tatteredsoul]

WE?

One of us, as not to derail this thread.

I would like to hear more about people's experiences.

 

[JackRT]

One of us, as not to derail this thread.

I would like to hear more about people's experiences.

I cannot debate a person who lives in an entirely different reality.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

One of us, as not to derail this thread.

I would like to hear more about people's experiences.

His intent is to derail THIS thread. It is a pattern that I have noticed. Let us stay on topic here.