View on aliens.

[daleksteve]

Thanks, but Ezek. 1 sounds a whole lot like angels (cf. Rev. 4), and there's great debate about the "giants" (or the "sons of God") of Gen. 6. If this is "the best of the lot", I'll stick to my belief that there are no aliens.

Angels don't fly around in space ships or fiery chariots, why oh why is this so hard to understand.

 

[daleksteve]

I see you need to study more.

This from somebody who prescribes to medieval claptrap about mentally ill people are sick because of evil spirits.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Angels don't fly around in space ships or fiery chariots, why oh why is this so hard to understand.

You don't know this.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I am a child of God but i believe God can heal people but i don't prescribe to medieval claptrap about mentally ill people being possessed by demons, i am way to smart for that. Do you have the gift of Discerning of spirits or Deliverance, if so i might take you a little more seriously.

I have read the same scriptures as you its just that i interpret them differently than you do. I apply a bit of reason and common sense when looking at Gods word. Faith and religion can become a dangerous thing if you don't do this.

The only demons are the drink, illegal drugs and social issues that often lead to some mental health issues and them demons can be banished by creating a better and fairer society for everybody to live in.

Believe what you want to believe. But you and your family can be free according to the scriptures. It is not my fault that you have unbelief. "Common sense" is what you believe. But our Father is so uncommon and so is His word. I believe Him. I am so sorry you confess that you don't.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

This from somebody who prescribes to medieval claptrap about mentally ill people are sick because of evil spirits.

Father forgive Him.Help him believe what your word says and not what he thinks it says. In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth...Amen.

 

[daleksteve]

Thanks, but Ezek. 1 sounds a whole lot like angels (cf. Rev. 4), and there's great debate about the "giants" (or the "sons of God") of Gen. 6. If this is "the best of the lot", I'll stick to my belief that there are no aliens.

What Ezekiel may have saw was one of these guys. Known as the Annunki they pop up in many cultures including babylonian, mespontania, assyrian, syrian.

 

[tatteredsoul]

What are your views on them? My mom said one time that the whole thing is may just a joke and not real, while at another time saying they could be demons (I've heard many people say that). I definitely believe many of the UFO and alien sightings, a phenomenon that I would say are now almost cliche are wishful thinking and jokes being played and are not legitimate.

I'm not asking if their is life on other planets. That isn't really too far fetched of a claim to make. By "aliens" I am referring to sentient conscious life that has a soul like humans do.

Most UFO sightings are world governments testing out new or reverse engineered tech.

The abductions, especially of a psychic nature, are likely demonic, or government-demonic assault. Yes, they work together, which is why we have such "cool" tech. In exchange, governments look the other way.

The same thing that happened during Noahs time is happening now.

 

[ewq1938]

There are beings who travel in flying machines in the bible. That is clear in scripture. Now from what the bible tells us Angels are spiritual beings have inate power so don't need technology or vehicles to travel around from place to place.

The bible does not say that plus angels are said to be in those "flying machines".

 

[ewq1938]

Thanks, but Ezek. 1 sounds a whole lot like angels (cf. Rev. 4), and there's great debate about the "giants" (or the "sons of God") of Gen. 6. If this is "the best of the lot", I'll stick to my belief that there are no aliens.

Anything not originally from the Earth is an alien so all angels are aliens.

 

[daleksteve]

Believe what you want to believe. But you and your family can be free according to the scriptures. It is not my fault that you have unbelief. "Common sense" is what you believe. But our Father is so uncommon and so is His word. I believe Him. I am so sorry you confess that you don't.

Look we both believe the bible and we both believe what he says. Where we differ is the context and understanding and meaning of Gods word.

This is nothing new many Christians disagree on what different parts of scriptures mean and say, i think some of that may partly come down to having so many different denominations. The topic of Aliens is nowhere near as volatile as when it comes to creation and evolution.

 

[daleksteve]

Anything not originally from the Earth is an alien so all angels are aliens.

Well yes,

But the question is are these non earth entities, supernatural beings, or physical beings like humans but with conciderable more advanced technology or both of these. Biblical evidence for suggests both but hey you may disagree.

 

[ewq1938]

Well yes,

But the question is are these non earth entities, supernatural beings, or physical beings like humans but with conciderable more advanced technology or both of these. Biblical evidence for suggests both but hey you may disagree.

Angels are non earth entities, supernatural beings, and physical beings like humans.

 

[daleksteve]

You don't know this.

I find it hard to accept that supernatural beings need advanced technology and need to fly around in spaceships.The Angel that visited Mary did not need one, the angels in Jesus tomb at the time of the resurrection did not need one. The angels that appeared to the shepherds did not need one. More than enough in scripture for me to suggest two types of Angels exist, supernatural ones and physical ones that can travel the universe using advanced technology. But we are never going to agree on this. i am ok with that.

 

[daleksteve]

Angels are non earth entities, supernatural beings, and physical beings like humans.

They are but i don't accept the supernatural ones morph into a physical beings to decieve human beings.

 

[ewq1938]

They are but i don't accept the supernatural ones morph into a physical beings to decieve human beings.

Angels are always physical beings. They don't "morph" at all.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I find it hard to accept that supernatural beings need advanced technology and need to fly around in spaceships.The Angel that visited Mary did not need one, the angels in Jesus tomb at the time of the resurrection did not need one. The angels that appeared to the shepherds did not need one. More than enough in scripture for me to suggest two types of Angels exist, supernatural ones and physical ones that can travel the universe using advanced technology. But we are never going to agree on this. i am ok with that.

Well, I think no man knows what is used in heaven. The idea/knowledge of chariots and other conveyances come from the watchers angels. There are several classes of angelic beings and they are all immortal. There are angels with and without wings. Some angels have six wings, some with four. But none of them are mortal, however they can manifest as men in physical bodies.

 

[daleksteve]

The bible does not say that plus angels are said to be in those "flying machines".

They appear to be physical Angels though, that would make them Aliens. The only supernatural part to this encounter is when God appears and speaks to Ezekiel after the Aliens have finished showing off with their various spacecrafts. The scriptures here seem to suggest they arrived in something like a large mothership that then broke into smaller craft which Ezekiel describes as a wheels. We can put these Aliens down as good ones and not Satanic as they were obviously working for the glory of God.

 

[daleksteve]

Well, I think no man knows what is used in heaven. The idea/knowledge of chariots and other conveyances come from the watchers angels. There are several classes of angelic beings and they are all immortal. There are angels with and without wings. Some angels have six wings, some with four. But none of them are mortal, however they can manifest as men in physical bodies.

The only bit i disagree with here is that the physical ones are immortal so i think i am going to have to say that Aliens are not Angels at all then. Aliens are physical beings like you and me and guess what, they can die and be killed.

It is alleged that the greys are a dying sterile race that need some sort of enzyme from humans to survive, hence why they are the main culprits behind Alien abduction.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

They appear to be physical Angels though, that would make them Aliens. The only supernatural part to this encounter is when God appears and speaks to Ezekiel after the Aliens have finished showing off with their various spacecrafts. The scriptures here seem to suggest they arrived in something like a large mothership that then broke into smaller craft which Ezekiel describes as a wheels. We can put these Aliens down as good ones and not Satanic as they were obviously working for the glory of God.

They are supernatural angelic beings. They ARE alien in that they do not dwell on this Earth. Most people cannot accept that supernatural angelic beings can be called extraterrestrial or aliens. They are not different or separate.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

It is alleged that the greys are a dying sterile race that need some sort of enzyme from humans to survive, hence why they are the main culprits behind Alien abduction.

The greys are nephilim.