View on aliens.

Superhero Sam said:

I'm not asking if their is life on other planets. That isn't really too far fetched of a claim to make. By "aliens" I am referring to sentient conscious life that has a soul like humans do.

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Aliens are walking among us, pretending to be whatever they wish. There is quite a bit of documentation on this.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/aliens-are...ician-who-wants-us-reveal-ufo-secrets-1497976

daleksteve said:

They not chariots of fire in the sense of the word, they are spacecraft. Why would angels need a spacecraft to visit earth?

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Did you read the scripture posted above? Read it.

daleksteve said:

Despite what Einstein may say i don't think its impossible to be able to physically travel across the universe, its just that we have not yet learned how to do it. Aliens that visit us are probally thousands more years ahead of us in technology.

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Did they build spaceships or did they discover another dimension first?

Job8 said:

Evil angels are deceiving angels. If a spacecraft can deceive humanity, why not? Angels are extremely intelligent and powerful creatures and if evil angels are focused on mischief constantly, they can come up with all kinds of deceptions.

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Oh why oh why is it so hard to comprehend that WE are not alone in the universe.

ToBeLoved said:

As far as if aliens are demons. I would say that demons are spiritual beings, but it would be possible if they were able to overtake some other life form and inhabit their body or control their minds (like a possession or something).

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Demons are only one group of evil angels. There are many other evil angels who can simply take human form, just as Satan can transform himself. When holy angels appeared to men in Scripture, they took human form and used human language to communicate. The same would be true for evil angels, who do not necessarily need to take possession of humans.

daleksteve said:

Oh why oh why is it so hard to comprehend that WE are not alone in the universe.

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Why are you spasing out? Are we not discussing this?

Neogaia777 said:

Did they build spaceships or did they discover another dimension first?

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Well that's the interesting thing. the spiritual realm where God, angels, demons are etc obviously existed before the physical universe otherwise God could not have created it

This poses the question where did the spiritual realm come from. The bible says god has always existed but how does that apply to a being who exists outside of time.

Neogaia777 said:

Did they build spaceships or did they discover another dimension first?

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Spirit beings do exist in another dimension, but they can also appear on earth as we know from Scripture, and then travel back to the spirit realm. As to technology, there is a good possibility that the advanced technology of ancient civilizations (India, China, Egypt, Central America, etc., which we rarely think about) could have come from "the angels which kept not their first estate".

Job8 said:

Demons are only one group of evil angels. There are many other evil angels who can simply take human form, just as Satan can transform himself. When holy angels appeared to men in Scripture, they took human form and used human language to communicate. The same would be true for evil angels, who do not necessarily need to take possession of humans.

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Demons are spirits of dead nephilim.Most people will not read The Book Of Enoch which tells in detail about how when nephilim died, their spirits were condemned to roam the Earth as demons in search of bodies to inhabit.The world was full of them in Noah's day, and likewise today.They are mostly responsible for the flood.

I do think Aliens

Job8 said:

Spirit beings do exist in another dimension, but they can also appear on earth as we know from Scripture, and then travel back to the spirit realm. As to technology, there is a good possibility that the advanced technology of ancient civilizations (India, China, Egypt, Central America, etc., which we rarely think about) could have come from "the angels which kept not their first estate".

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They can but my point is that they don't need technology to do this. The fact that appear to need technology to do this is a strong indicator that they have always been beings of flesh and blood.

The Ark of the covenant facinates me which i think is a piece of Alien Technology.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Demons are spirits of dead nephilim.Most people will not read The Book Of Enoch which tells in detail about how when nephilim died, their spirits were condemned to roam the Earth as demons in search of bodies to inhabit.The world was full of them in Noah's day, and likewise today.They are mostly responsible for the flood.

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What i am still interested in is how these being arrived to breed with human women?

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Demons are spirits of dead nephilim.Most people will not read The Book Of Enoch which tells in detail about how when nephilim died, their spirits were condemned to roam the Earth as demons in search of bodies to inhabit.The world was full of them in Noah's day, and likewise today.They are mostly responsible for the flood.

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Nephilim were Alien hybrides. The book of Enoch just tells of an ancient Alien invasion, collinisation attempt and then the good aliens come along and wipe out the bad ones.

daleksteve said:

I do think Aliens


They can but my point is that they don't need technology to do this. The fact that appear to need technology to do this is a strong indicator that they have always been beings of flesh and blood.

The Ark of the covenant facinates me which i think is a piece of Alien Technology.

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That sounds like the ancient aliens theory of Tsoukolous, Von Danikin and. and Childress. I listen to them too, but they only have pieces of information. Sometimes I think they are sowing disinformation. Yes there was a lot of technology in the past that we are just learning about. For instance, the story in the Bible of the Tower of Babel.I don't think it was so much as a tall building, but, some type of stargate technology that they were doing. Sort of like what C.E.R.N. is doing today.

Job8 said:

Aliens are walking among us, pretending to be whatever they wish. There is quite a bit of documentation on this.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/aliens-are...ician-who-wants-us-reveal-ufo-secrets-1497976

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They are among us, and both NASA and the governments of the world know so.

The Greys who come from a planet in the star system of zeta-zeta-reticuli are bad ones. responsible for most abductions.

daleksteve said:

I do think Aliens


They can but my point is that they don't need technology to do this. The fact that appear to need technology to do this is a strong indicator that they have always been beings of flesh and blood.

The Ark of the covenant facinates me which i think is a piece of Alien Technology.

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You need to stop watching Ancient Aliens brother and do some Bible study.

daleksteve said:

There has to be Aliens because of the sheer number of stars/galaxies and planets in the universe.

The odds of us being alone in the universe are several zillion to one

Angels maybe demons, i am open to that possibilty especially as there is Alien activity in the bible, which appears to work against god in places but some also appear to work for god.

However the church needs to stop pretending Aliens are not real, once that happens we can have the demon debate.

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Appearances of aliens are real, as well as contact and abduction, but they are not what they appear. Even some secular researchers say that aliens are not from this universe, they are extra-dimensional. This would explain the bizzare behavior of the "spacecraft" and the ability of aliens to inhabit bodies. The most telling evidence that aliens are a spiritual phenomena is that the name of Jesus Christ has the power to stop abduction experiences.

daleksteve said:

There has to be Aliens because of the sheer number of stars/galaxies and planets in the universe.

The odds of us being alone in the universe are several zillion to one

Angels maybe demons, i am open to that possibilty especially as there is Alien activity in the bible, which appears to work against god in places but some also appear to work for god.

However the church needs to stop pretending Aliens are not real, once that happens we can have the demon debate.

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When we actually meet some aliens we can figure that out. Until then it is simply your opinion.

daleksteve said:

I doubt they are. Contact with Aliens are most likely responsible for the creation of most of the world religions.

In a lot of these religions Gods or deities tend to fly around in silvery clouds of fire.

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First, let's define “aliens” as “beings capable of making moral choices, having intellect, emotion, and a will.” Next, a few scientific facts:

1. Men have sent spacecraft to nearly every planet in our solar system. After observing these planets, we have ruled out all but Mars and possibly a moon of Jupiter as being able to support life.

2. In 1976, the U.S.A. sent two landers to Mars. Each had instruments that could dig into the Martian sand and analyze it for any sign of life. They found absolutely nothing. In contrast, if you analyzed soil from the most barren desert on earth or the most frozen dirt in Antarctica, you would find it teeming with micro-organisms. In 1997, the U.S.A. sent Pathfinder to the surface of Mars. This rover took more samples and conducted many more experiments. It also found absolutely no sign of life. Since that time, several more missions to Mars have been launched. The results have always been the same.

3. Astronomers are constantly finding new planets in distant solar systems. Some propose that the existence of so many planets proves that there must be life somewhere else in the universe. The fact is that none of these has ever been proved to be anything close to a life-supporting planet. The tremendous distance between Earth and these planets makes it impossible to make any judgments regarding their ability to sustain life. Knowing that Earth alone supports life in our solar system, evolutionists want very badly to find another planet in another solar system to support the notion that life must have evolved. There are many other planets out there, but we certainly do not know enough about them to verify that they could support life.

So, what does the Bible say? The earth and mankind are unique in God's creation. Genesis 1 teaches that God created the earth before He even created the sun, the moon, or the stars. Acts 17:24-26 states that “the God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands…he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.”

Originally, mankind was without sin, and everything in the world was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). When the first man sinned (Genesis 3), the result was problems of all sorts, including sickness and death. Even though animals have no personal sin before God (they are not moral beings), they still suffer and die (Romans 8:19-22). Jesus Christ died to remove the punishment that we deserve for our sin. When He returns, He will undo the curse that has existed since Adam (Revelation 21–22). Note that Romans 8:19-22 states that all of creation eagerly waits for this time. It is important to also note that Christ came to die for mankind and that He died only once (Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10).

If all of creation now suffers under the curse, any life apart from the earth would also suffer. If, for the sake of argument, moral beings do exist on other planets, then they also suffer; and if not now, then someday they will surely suffer when everything passes away with a great noise and the elements melt with fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10). If they had never sinned, then God would be unjust in punishing them. But if they had sinned, and Christ could die only once (which He did on earth), then they are left in their sin, which would also be contrary to the character of God (2 Peter 3:9). This leaves us with an unsolvable paradox—unless, of course, there are no moral beings outside of the earth.

What about non-moral and non-sentient life forms on other planets? Could algae or even dogs and cats be present on an unknown planet? Presumably so, and it would not do any real harm to any biblical text. But it would certainly prove problematic when trying answer questions like “Since all of creation suffers, what purpose would God have in creating non-moral and non-sentient creatures to suffer on distant planets?”

In conclusion, the Bible gives us no reason to believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe. In fact, the Bible gives us several key reasons why there cannot be. Yes, there are many strange and unexplainable things that take place. There is no reason, though, to attribute these phenomena to aliens or UFOs. If there is a discernable cause to these supposed events, it is likely to be spiritual, and more specifically, demonic, in origin.

jason_delisle said:

In conclusion, the Bible gives us no reason to believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe.

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If this includes the spirit realm and angelic beings, then this statement would not apply. We know from Scripture that there are vast numbers of both good and evil angels.

In fact, the Bible gives us several key reasons why there cannot be.

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We do have a Scripture that tells us that there are more worlds. Hebrews 1:2: Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

While we have been given next to nothing about these "worlds" in the Bible, it is perfectly reasonable to expect that in eternity we will know more about these "worlds" and possibly have something to do with then.