View on aliens.

[daleksteve]

I think it probably is 3 though.

I must check this out with my church leaders. Sounds like we might be into the theology of mormons here with multiple heavens.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Here is where i disagree. They already had flesh but choose to sin buy maiting with human women.

All you have here is another race of physical beings, created by God who went the way of man and started sinning.

Look, I think I explain this earlier in the thread. Angels have the ability to take on bodies of flesh. Look at the two who rescued Lot from Sodom. They had bodies of flesh and the men of that city wanted to rape them. They must have been very beautiful. Look at the one who rescued Peter from jail. Scripture says the angel hit Peter. I think we know little of angels and how they can manifest.The Bible tells us to be careful how we entertain strangers because they may be angels in disguise.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I must check this out with my church leaders. Sounds like we might be into the theology of mormons here with multiple heavens.

The Apostle Paul said he was caught up into the third heaven.

 

[daleksteve]

Are the nephilim the 'giants of old'?

What i am interested in if there is any reference in scripture to how these fallen angels arrived to mate with human women.

 

[daleksteve]

Look, I think I explain this earlier in the thread. Angels have the ability to take on bodies of flesh. Look at the two who rescued Lot from Sodom. They had bodies of flesh and the men of that city wanted to rape them. They must have been very beautiful. Look at the one who rescued Peter from jail. Scripture says the angel hit Peter. I think we know little of angels and how they can manifest.The Bible tells us to be careful how we entertain strangers because they may be angels in disguise.

Angels who have the ability to take on bodies of flesh don't need fiery chariots or silvery clouds to carry them around everywhere as it appears they do in the bible.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

What i am interested in if there is any reference in scripture to how these fallen angels arrived to mate with human women.

The Bible does not say how, only that they did.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Angels who have the ability to take on bodies of flesh don't need fiery chariots or silvery clouds to carry them around everywhere as it appears they do in the bible.

I don't know why you would think that.

 

[Neogaia777]

Which came first in alien evolution, say, the first society on the first life supporting planet, which came first? They managed to make matter travel faster than the speed of light, which Einstein says is impossible, or they discovered another dimension, where they could exist in a spirit realm, able to travel inter-dimensionally to different places in the universe, in a spirit body?

 

[daleksteve]

I don't know why you would think that.

Why would supernatural beings who can take on flesh need to build themselves chariots to visit the earth?

They can appear at will in the bible, Gabriel does it. Explain why they need sky chariots to travel?

 

[zippy2]

I must check this out with my church leaders. Sounds like we might be into the theology of mormons here with multiple heavens.

2Co 12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Which came first in alien evolution, say, the first society on the first life supporting planet, which came first? They managed to make matter travel faster than the speed of light, which Einstein says is impossible, or they discovered another dimension, where they could exist in a spirit realm, able to travel inter-dimensionally to different places in the universe, in a spirit body?

Well there is the realm that we do not see into with our natural eyes. Some prophets were able to see into this realm, but everyone could not see. Case in point with the Prophet Elisha when he was surrounded by the angry Syrian king...Lets just look at what scripture says.

2 Kings 6:
11 Therefore the heart of the king of Syria was sore troubled for this thing; and he called his servants, and said unto them, Will ye not shew me which of us is for the king of Israel?

12 And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.

13 And he said, Go and spy where he is, that I may send and fetch him. And it was told him, saying, Behold, he is in Dothan.

14 Therefore sent he thither horses, and chariots, and a great host: and they came by night, and compassed the city about.

15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?

16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.

17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Why would supernatural beings who can take on flesh need to build themselves chariots to visit the earth?

They can appear at will in the bible, Gabriel does it. Explain why they need sky chariots to travel?

Why do you think that there are no chariots of fire in Heaven?

 

[daleksteve]

Which came first in alien evolution, say, the first society on the first life supporting planet, which came first? They managed to make matter travel faster than the speed of light, which Einstein says is impossible, or they discovered another dimension, where they could exist in a spirit realm, able to travel inter-dimensionally to different places in the universe, in a spirit body?

Despite what Einstein may say i don't think its impossible to be able to physically travel across the universe, its just that we have not yet learned how to do it. Aliens that visit us are probally thousands more years ahead of us in technology.

 

[zippy2]

Handmaid: Some people won't let folks just discuss things. If you say one thing they don't agree with they attack. Why can't we explore the ideas without them getting all bent out of shape. They get me all off track and I lose concentration on what we are talking about.

 

[daleksteve]

Handmaid: Some people won't let folks just discuss things. If you say one thing they don't agree with they attack. Why can't we explore the ideas without them getting all bent out of shape. They get me all off track and I lose concentration on what we are talking about.

I am not attacking, just offering a differing opinion.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Handmaid: Some people won't let folks just discuss things. If you say one thing they don't agree with they attack. Why can't we explore the ideas without them getting all bent out of shape. They get me all off track and I lose concentration on what we are talking about.

Well thoughts like these challenge their paradigm . Set beliefs get people's back up. Ok dear sister, focus. Laugh it off and get back on the horse.

 

[daleksteve]

Why do you think that there are no chariots of fire in Heaven?

They not chariots of fire in the sense of the word, they are spacecraft. Why would angels need a spacecraft to visit earth?

 

[zippy2]

Well thoughts like these challenge their paradigm . Set beliefs get people's back up. Ok dear sister, focus. Laugh it off and get back on the horse.

Ok lets have another go at it.

 

[Job8]

They not chariots of fire in the sense of the word, they are spacecraft. Why would angels need a spacecraft to visit earth?

Evil angels are deceiving angels. If a spacecraft can deceive humanity, why not? Angels are extremely intelligent and powerful creatures and if evil angels are focused on mischief constantly, they can come up with all kinds of deceptions.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Ok lets have another go at it.

ROFLOL!