Video shows 4 captive Ukrainian troops killed by men identified as Russian forces

[essentialsaltes]

The Ukrainian drone video, which AP obtained from European military officials, shows soldiers with Russian uniform markings raising their weapons and shooting each of the four Ukrainians in the back with such ferocity that one man was left without a head.

[A Russian drone also captured footage shared by a Russian blogger, but the video stops before the shooting starts, and the blogger insinuates all ended well for the POWs.]

 

[Laodicean60]

This is why the war has to stop; both sides are doing it.

 

[BeyondET]

This is why the war has to stop; both sides are doing it.

Both sides are doing what, shooting people who surrender?

 

[Laodicean60]

Both sides are doing what, shooting people who surrender?

Yep, and the POW's.

 

[BeyondET]

Yep, and the POW's.

You got proof that Ukrainians are killing people who surrender?

 

[Laodicean60]

You got proof that Ukrainians are killing people who surrender?

It's on the internet but hidden behind a lot of Western propaganda.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-pow-russia-war-united-nations-29bc27d06d6bad359c957fdb0aa9f929

 

[BeyondET]

It's on the internet but hidden behind a lot of Western propaganda.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-pow-russia-war-united-nations-29bc27d06d6bad359c957fdb0aa9f929

So in two and half years about 40 people, hmm. While almost 2 million have been killed or injured since the Russian invasion.

The report found that while torture and ill-treatment of POWs took place on both sides, it was far more common against Ukrainians — more than 9 in 10 of interviewees reported such abuse— than against Russians, about half of whom testified to such mistreatment.

 

[Laodicean60]

So in two and half years about 40 people, hmm. While almost 2 million have been killed or injured since the Russian invasion.

The report found that while torture and ill-treatment of POWs took place on both sides, it was far more common against Ukrainians — more than 9 in 10 of interviewees reported such abuse— than against Russians, about half of whom testified to such mistreatment.

I think there's more, but Western propaganda likes to keep Ukraine's funny business on the down-low, you know what I mean. Now you want to get into mines bigger than yours argument. One prisoner of war killed is enough for me on both sides.

 

[BeyondET]

I think there's more, but Western propaganda likes to keep Ukraine's funny business on the down-low, you know what I mean. Now you want to get into mines bigger than yours argument. One prisoner of war killed is enough for me on both sides.

You think there's more, that isn't concrete at all.

Every country in the world has funny business.

The world should of stood up to Russia's invasion of another country which started in 2014 with their annexation parts of Ukraine.

 

[FireDragon76]

This is why the war has to stop; both sides are doing it.

Ukrainians aren't massacring prisoners of war or going into towns and massacring the civilal population.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Ukrainians aren't massacring prisoners of war or going into towns and massacring the civilal population.

According to the very best Russian propaganda they are.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Per the AP

The report found that torture and ill-treatment of POWs took place on both sides, it was more common against Ukrainians — more than 9 in 10 of interviewees reported such abuse— than against Russians, about half of whom testified to such mistreatment.


Those are big enough numbers that I don't want my tax dollars going towards either side of the conflict.

"I back that side that only mistreats and tortures 50% of the POWs instead of 90%" isn't a bumper sticker I'll be putting on my car anytime soon.

I still suspect that the prevailing "Trump and Putin are best buddies" narrative is clouding the judgement of half the country.

The fact that so many people were so quick to fly the flag of a nation "in solidarity" that had this track record:

Ernst & Young ranked Ukraine among the three most corrupt nations out of 43 surveyed, alongside Colombia and Brazil. By 2015, The Guardian referred to Ukraine as "the most corrupt nation in Europe". Transparency International's Corruption Index (CI) provides further insight. In 2013, Ukraine was ranked 144th out of 180 countries, indicating an extraordinarily high level of public sector corruption.


...I still can't help but think ulterior motives are at play.

Otherwise, it'd be like putting an Outlaws MC sticker on the back of your car to show support because they happen to be feuding with the Hells Angels.

I'll still maintain that the half of this country that feigns "deep concern" about this conflict is only doing so because of the aforementioned perception. If there were never a perception that "Putin helped Trump win", most wouldn't care about this conflict and would still be holding their previous "non-interventionist" sentiments.

 

[Maori Aussie]

Ernst & Young ranked Ukraine among the three most corrupt nations out of 43 surveyed, alongside Colombia and Brazil. By 2015, The Guardian referred to Ukraine as "the most corrupt nation in Europe". Transparency International's Corruption Index (CI) provides further insight. In 2013, Ukraine was ranked 144th out of 180 countries, indicating an extraordinarily high level of public sector corruption.

In 2013, Ukraine had a pro-Russian Government. You are certainly right to say it was corrupt.
Ukraine had its peoples power revolution in 2014.
Transparency International currently ranks Ukraine at 105 and Russia at 154, which the higher number measuring corruption.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024

The Guardian is assuming that Russia is not part of Europe. Putin would agree. The survivors of Bucha and Irpin would also agree.

 

[FireDragon76]

Per the AP

The report found that torture and ill-treatment of POWs took place on both sides, it was more common against Ukrainians — more than 9 in 10 of interviewees reported such abuse— than against Russians, about half of whom testified to such mistreatment.


Those are big enough numbers that I don't want my tax dollars going towards either side of the conflict.

"I back that side that only mistreats and tortures 50% of the POWs instead of 90%" isn't a bumper sticker I'll be putting on my car anytime soon.

I still suspect that the prevailing "Trump and Putin are best buddies" narrative is clouding the judgement of half the country.

The fact that so many people were so quick to fly the flag of a nation "in solidarity" that had this track record:

Ernst & Young ranked Ukraine among the three most corrupt nations out of 43 surveyed, alongside Colombia and Brazil. By 2015, The Guardian referred to Ukraine as "the most corrupt nation in Europe". Transparency International's Corruption Index (CI) provides further insight. In 2013, Ukraine was ranked 144th out of 180 countries, indicating an extraordinarily high level of public sector corruption.


...I still can't help but think ulterior motives are at play.

Otherwise, it'd be like putting an Outlaws MC sticker on the back of your car to show support because they happen to be feuding with the Hells Angels.

I'll still maintain that the half of this country that feigns "deep concern" about this conflict is only doing so because of the aforementioned perception. If there were never a perception that "Putin helped Trump win", most wouldn't care about this conflict and would still be holding their previous "non-interventionist" sentiments.

One big steaming pile of Bulverism.