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Ok this uk chic knows about as much about christianity as i do about quantum physics so i apologize if these questions are uber noob.

Ok I know you guys believe Jesus is god, or something of that nature. do other people concepts of god really make it bad? what is the christian stance on say a bi sexual girl as myself, im not lesbian so I'm curious, and are women and men equal in the bible?
 

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Ok this uk chic knows about as much about christianity as i do about quantum physics so i apologize if these questions are uber noob.

Ok I know you guys believe Jesus is god, or something of that nature. do other people concepts of god really make it bad? what is the christian stance on say a bi sexual girl as myself, im not lesbian so I'm curious, and are women and men equal in the bible?
The answers to your questions will depend on the Christian who answers unfortunately.

The body of Christ has not been unified in a very long time.

So when the answers roll in, look at the faith icon of the poster.
 
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Well, we believe in the Trinity: That Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that the Holy Spirit works within us.

Here's some verses in the Bible that cover that:

John 14:9-28 (Jesus is talking to his disciples here.)

tasteofchaos said:
do other people concepts of god really make it bad?

Well, first I gotta figure out what you mean by this: Are you asking if other people's concepts of Gods are bad in themselves? Or are you asking if having a different concept of God than someone else is bad? Both? :s

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what is the christian stance on say a bi sexual girl as myself, im not lesbian so I'm curious, and are women and men equal in the bible?

I don't believe that the Bible talks about bisexuality at all. It does talk about homosexuality, and there are different stances as to whether or not homosexuality is wrong or not because of translations, but I won't get into that.

Men and women are definitely equal in God's eyes, though.

Verses that cover this are:

Ephesians 5:22-33 (Paul is speaking to the Ephesians here.)

More verses once I come up with them...

I don't want to go all preachy on you and tell you my own interpretations of it, so you can read these first if you like, then ask questions on your own accord.



 
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Ok this uk chic knows about as much about christianity as i do about quantum physics so i apologize if these questions are uber noob.

Ok I know you guys believe Jesus is god, or something of that nature. do other people concepts of god really make it bad? what is the christian stance on say a bi sexual girl as myself, im not lesbian so I'm curious, and are women and men equal in the bible?

Hi, Yes, we believe Jesus is God. God is one of three persons, Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit, the trinity.

One God.

All men have sinned and so Jesus came and taught, performed miracles, healed, forgave, and then went to the cross willingly and died for our sins and was resurrected.

When one believes in Christ, puts their trust in Christ for their life, their sins are forgiven, past, present and future.

We then start our Christian walk. It's differnt for everybody, but for me I started reading the bible and learned truths about God and many other things in the bible. I turned from the life I used to live as I just had no desire or interest at all. Jesus was right there with me, and I sensed that so strongly when I first came to Christ. It was awesome, coming to Christ.

As to your being bisexual, that is between you and God.

We are all sinners and there are many sins of course, all sin is wrong doing. But it is not one thing that we are involved in or doing which Christ is about.

Jesus paid for all our sin, and regardless of what the sin is, when we come to Christ we are forgiven all sin. We still sin, and while we are commanded not to and we do our best not to (depending on our walk with God) we still sin.

Sin is many things, many things, self righeousness, pride, envy, hatred, etc, there are many, the famous ones we hear about are sexual immorality and such but all sin is sin which is why I said, it's between you and God, and it's not about one sin, or one thing we do.

It's about our life, our being reconciled to God, having a relationship with God.

Coming to Christ is a transformation of life. We become a new creation, the Holy Spirit (God) indwells us, and it's just awesome really and I've no clue how I got by before without God.

Prior to coming to Christ, I knew nothing of God, never thought of God,never taught of God, nothing ,and not until right before coming to Christ did I start thinking of God, and I mean weeks. Prior to that nothing at all. Never even aware about religion nothing.

I lived a very dark life, as many of us do prior to Christ. I've done all there is to do in this life. I wasn't raised with any sort of morals so not blaming my mom at all, I grew up with no guilt about the many things I did. I sinned much against others and against myself in the many things I did. Many people feel guilty when they do wrong, I never did, which to me was kind of strange as once I became a Christian I wondered why I never felt guilty over things I did, and like I said, I lived one dark life and short of murder and a few other things did just about everything else in this world.

But still when I came to Christ, it wasn't about sin, I came to Christ from answering two questions. Would I commit my life to Christ, and would I die for Christ.

With those two, I immediately was a new creation. Pastor said nothng more to me, didn't tell me to do anything or any more, as you see he knew God does the work in our life.

As I said, I started reading the bible and it was, is fascinating and wow, I relearned so much, as I had worldly wisdom and the bible gives us godly wisdom, renews our minds, changes our mind about things, just by reading and by God working in our lives.

It's a lifetme walk, we go thru mountains and valleys, and God never leaves us nor forsakes us, no matter what goes on and He's always right here.

I went to church and to a small bible study, and one of the first things struck me about God was He loved me as I was and for who I was. I had never known such love before; I was a nobody a nothing, but here's God saying you are precious in my site and very worthy and valuable and then the few that reached out to me also treated me the same really and I had never known such in my life.

They didn't care how I looked, dressed, talked, none of that. I used to sit in the parking lot of the church crying as I didn't have the courage to go in cause i wasn't like them (in my mind so i thought), and finally told someone how i did that, and she talked me into coming in, and as I did it got easier as i had never done any social type of thing in my life either, so was real hard being around people at all. And since we believe things about chuches, christians, God and the bible, which are not true, that is what I was doing, had preconcieved notions which were wiped out when these women reached out to me in love and ah..it was awesome.

So, sorry for the long story, but just thought I'd tell you a bit about myself.

God bless,
tapero
 
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I am no longer a Catholic, but have been. Yes, they are often quite humble in my own experience as well.

As has already been mentioned 'some' believe in a trinity, but 'some' do not. [I am among the 'do nots']
If we are followers of Christ, we believe in Him as a Redeemer, a Savior. Here again, some believe He
is God and others believe that He is simply a special person sent by God. [I believe that He is God].

The "Christian" stance on you should be to love you as Christ loves you. No matter where we have been and no matter where we are now, we have all "sinned and come short of the glory of God" [Romans 3:23]

Jesus said, "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.." John 3:17-18

Are men and women equal?

"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 2:27-28

Yet...

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;" Eph 5:22-25
 
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tapero, I'm confused about something. Why didn't god create us good and perfect like himself, why would a perfect god create a sinful creation? Sorry if I'm being rude but that doesn't make much sense to me. Why didn't he create us to be good like himself, someone told me we were made in his image, why are we bad if we are made in his image? I don't know if this is supposed to be taken literally or metaphorically, any help would be nice.

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tapero, I'm confused about something. Why didn't god create us good and perfect like himself, why would a perfect god create a sinful creation? Sorry if I'm being rude but that doesn't make much sense to me. Why didn't he create us to be good like himself, someone told me we were made in his image, why are we bad if we are made in his image? I don't know if this is supposed to be taken literally or metaphorically, any help would be nice.

Cheers,
Vicky
Man was created good, but then chose to disobey - that's what brought sin into the world, God didn't create it like that.
 
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how did man choose to disobey if he was created without evil, disobeying is considered evil by the christians i talk to on here, man was not created good and perfect if it can disobey. It feels like we were set up to fail if what you guys say is true. any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
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someone also told me about the tree of good and evil, why did god put that tree there and why did a snake, one of god's creatures get into the paradise that was the garden of eden? I thought this was a perfect paradise, how can god's plan or creation mess up or turn foul? perfection creates perfect creation.

If we did not eat the fruit prior to talking to the snake then we could not be tempted by an evil snake because evil thoughts and actions (disobeying god) was not implanted in out heads. How can a person even do anything without the knowledge of good and evil? We would be like robots without that some sort of morality or emotional aspect.

I'm probably just wasting my time here, I can already tell my scientific stance and other beliefs are going to collide with you guy's sense of morals and beliefs leading to a fusion of anger and fighting. Peace to you peeps.

Cheers,
Vicky
 
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"Perfection creates perfect creation" is not really all that accurate. For one, how is one defining "perfect", and does Scripture ever attribute that definition to the creation? It would be more accurate to say "perfection creates exactly what it intends to create".

Further, you may be confusing the modern use of "knowledge" with the ancient Hebrew sense. Today, it is used basically as "to be aware of"; whereas the ancient use had a much more intimate connotation. You'll even find that sexual relations with a spouse is referred to as "knowing" in the Old Testament. Their use of "knowledge" was deeper than just being aware, it was more of having a personal experience with the subject. So, there's no reason to think Adam and Eve had no awareness of what disobedience was - but rather they hadn't yet had the personal experience of doing it.

The serpent wasn't just a snake, it was the devil. Twice in the book of Revelation Satan is called, "that old serpent". I haven't seen anywhere in Scripture showing why it would be impossible for the devil to assume such a form in the garden.
 
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But how did the devil get into the garden of eden, why did got allow it to destroy his creation, and why didn't he make us non corruptible, being corruptible is not a perfect creation, god made us not in his image, he made us evil and he set us up to fail if what you say is true.
It sounds like this devil character has more power than god and can just run amoke wherever he wants. God doesn't have a grasp on his creation at all it seems to me, maybe im interpreting things wrong or something.

Again I have stressed that I do not want this to turn into a mud slinging contest. I have contacted a mod to lock this thread, so I wouldn't argue on it much longer.

Cheers,
Vicky
 
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Perfection can create perfect creation, but perfection also has the choice to not create perfect creation. Creating perfect creation wouldn't allow for true freedom of choice among humans. Besides, not even any of God's angels are perfect. Only God. Creating another perfect being would mean creating a copy of Himself, and God wouldn't do that.
 
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