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Verses that cannot be used to "prove" that believers today are "commanded" by God to tithe on income or wealth.

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Whenever false teachers claim that believers today are commanded by God to "tithe" on their income (which is not true), they all use the same few selected verses to try to validate the lie. Three of the most common tricks used to present false teaching as true is only to use certain, selected verses to "prove" what they say while ignoring other verses, not providing the proper context, and ignoring the background of verses.
One of the first things they always say is that tithing was in place well before the Mosaic Law was instituted. And they always point out the same two people to "validate" this. So, let's take a look.

The first one always mentioned is Abraham, Gen 14:20, "And blessed be the most high God, which has delivered your enemies into your hand. And he gave him tithes of all." This verse is always used as a major proof text to guilt people into giving a tenth of their income. The only way to properly understand Gen 14:20 is to look at the whole chapter, with the proper background, for the proper context.

In those days, when kings went to war, they would set up a war camp, away from where the battle would happen. Back then, armies carried many personal possessions to war, including family and slaves. They would bring livestock and food. There would be tents, extra weapons and other personal items. Whenever one group of people defeated another group in battle, the defeated ones would flee past their camp in fear of their lives or being captured. Defeated enemy soldiers would either be slain or turned into slaves. The victors would confiscate as much property of the losers, including any persons left in the camp, as they could take with them and destroy whatever was left. The confiscated possessions were called either booty or spoil.

Starting in verse 1, we see a coalition of four kings that went to war with five other kings. We will call the four kings Team A and the five kings Team B. Verses 1-10 tell how Team A defeated Team B. Verse 11 specifically tells us that all of the property of the defeated kings of Sodom and Gomorrah was taken as spoil, booty by Team A. Verses 11-12 tell of how Lot and Lot's property (this included Lot's family) was taken as spoil and how Abraham was informed of Lot's captivity, which prompts Abraham to take action to rescue Lot.

Verse 14 tells us that Abraham had 318 trained servants that he armed. "Trained servants" means that these 318 had been trained how to fight. Abraham was very wealthy to have 318 servants that could fight with swords. This also means he had at least another 100 servants to stay behind and watch. When we see the word "servants," this only indicates men. Many of these men would have their own wives and children with them, so Abraham's group that traveled with him could have easily numbered over 500 people. I want to emphasize that Abraham had great wealth, including gold, silver, gems, and jewelry.

Verse 15 tells of Abraham defeating Team A.

Verse 16 describes how "he brought back all the goods." It states that Abraham also brought back Lot and his goods. And then it ends by saying that Abraham brought back the women and the people. Abraham bringing back "all of the goods" is describing all of the property of Team B that Team A had taken as spoil. Then the verse specifically states that Abraham brought Lot and Lot's personal property back. The "women and people" in the verse's last part indicates the women and people of Team B. To bring clarity, I will paraphrase verse 16,

So Abraham brought back all of the property and people of Team B. Abraham also brought back Lot's family and personal possessions.

Verse 17 tells us that the king of Sodom went out to greet Abraham upon Abraham's victorious return.

Verse 18 tells us that Abraham spoke with Melchizedek first before meeting with the king of Sodom.

Verse 20 indicates that Abraham gave Melchizedek "tithes of all."

Verse 21 is Abraham talking to the king of Sodom, after his interchange with Melchizedek, and the king of Sodom, offering to Abraham that Abraham needed only to return the people of Team B, that Abraham had rescued from Team A, but that he could keep all of the property of Team B. This was a very generous offer from the king of Sodom, but Abraham refused the gift, verses 22-24.

There is a key element not stated in verse 16 that the readers would have understood in those ancient days, but modern-day readers of the text miss. Abraham brought back all of the property and the captured people of Team B. Abraham brought back Lot and Lot's family and Lot's personal property. However, any of the property, livestock or people that had belonged to Team A would have become the spoil of Abraham. So, Abraham had returned with the property and people of Team B, Lot, Lot's family, and Lot's property, and Abraham returned with the spoil, which was now his personal property.

Clear as mud? Just understand that when Scripture says that "Abraham gave Melchizedek "tithes of all," it is strictly restricted to the personal spoil Abraham returned with. How do we know this? Because this is explained in Heb 7:2-4. Verse 4 reads, "Now consider how great this man (Melchizedek) was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham GAVE THE TENTH OF THE SPOILS!!! Abraham gave a tenth of the spoil he captured from Team A! ABRAHAM DID NOT GIVE A TITHE OF THE PERSONAL WEALTH HE OWNED BEFORE HE WENT INTO BATTLE!

I guarantee you that anyone who is trying to promote the false teaching that Gentile believers today are obligated to tithe on their personal income or wealth has never explained this or ever cited Heb 7:4! First, in those days and in that area of the world, the practice of a person inferior in status to a leader or ruler by giving a "tithe" was common in those pagan cultures. Melchizedek didn't demand or ask for this tithe from Abraham. God didn't command or "nudge" Abraham to give a tithe to Melchizedek. Abraham recognized that Melchizedek was a Priest/King of Jehovah and only did what was normal in that culture.
Nowhere do you find in Scripture God commanding Abraham to tithe. You don't see Abraham giving a tithe before or after this ONE-TIME EVENT! The tithe, and system of tithing God established through Moses is completely unrelated or similar to the tithe Abraham gave Melchizedek once. There is no comparison that can be made here!


The other "proof" is Jacob. Gen 28:22. Jacob is on his way to Haran to find his uncle, Laban, as he escapes from the wrath of Esau and finds a wife from among his kinfolk. He had the vision of the ladder, and God had promised to be with him. After he awakes in the place where he had the vision and God spoke to him, he prepares to continue his journey. Gen 28: 20-22. First, Jacob vows to give a tenth of all he possesses. Jacob made a vow; God did not command him to give a tenth of everything he owns. Jacob is not following the example of any system already in place, as the system of tithing set up in the book of Deuteronomy is centuries away. And, what was set up by God through Moses was not a system where all Jews gave a tenth of everything they own. So, what Abraham gave one time and what Jacob vowed were not precursors to the system of tithing God established. There was no Tabernacle, Temple, or Levite to present the vow.
What was the provision Jacob put into his vow? He would give a tenth IF GOD PROTECT HIM UNTIL HE RETURNED TO HIS FATHER'S HOUSE. While Jacob knew he would eventually return to his father's house, he had no clue about the time frame. It was over 40 years until Jacob returned home. We see in Gen 35:29 that Jacob returned to his father's house and buried his father, Isaac.
After Isaac was buried, where or when do we see Jacob fulfilling the vow? We don't! They try to teach that the modern-day system of "tithing" is found in the Old Testament, but it isn't! You cannot find any teaching or example of a system of tithing that was based on every Jew giving a tenth of their income or personal wealth and doing this on a weekly basis. Did the Jews tithe? Yes. Did every Jew tithe? No. Did any Jew ever give a tithe of money or tithe based on their income? No! They can lie as much as they want, but what people are instructed to do these days is not found in the Old or New Testament.

Let's look at the New Testament.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You give tithe on mint, dill, and cummin, but you have neglected the more important aspects of the law, justice, mercy, and faith. You should do this, but you should also do the more important things.

Lk 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees! You give tithe on mint, rue and all manner of herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. But you should do these things and not let the other things undone.

How many times have "pastors" danced for joy and gleefully shout, "See, Jesus said to tithe!" while using these two verses? Well, a little explanation is needed here. First, the time of the gospels is considered a part of the Old Testament. The New Testament era did not start until Pentecost. So, Jesus is addressing Jewish men from an Old Testament view. There is no example in the gospels about Jesus instructing Gentiles to tithe. Second, God did not institute tithing on herbs or spices through Moses. This was an element added by the Pharisees! Tithing on spices or herbs was not a part of Old Testament tithing. Third, these two verses do not represent two separate events. It is both writers putting the one-time event in their separate gospels. Fourth, if this event is "proof" used to justify tithing today, are the "pastors" tithing on the herbs and spices they have at home? Have you tithed your herbs and spices? Fifth, do you notice that Jesus doesn't talk about how the Pharisees tithed money? Why isn't it mentioned, if this is proof of tithing on money? Jesus didn't say, "Oh, you tithe on your herbs, but you are not tithing your money!" Not one verse in Scripture reads,"...and they gave a tithe of their money."

Finally, we come to Lk 18:10-14. Verse 12 reads, "I fast twice a week and I give tithes of all that I possess." And you might be tempted to think, "Well, there it is! The Pharisee gives tithe on everything he owns!" Except, there is one little problem. Because if you start at Lk 18:9, you read, "And Jesus spoke this PARABEL unto certain men who trusted in themselves, that they (believed they) were righteous and despised others." He told this as a parable! A parable is not a true story! It is a made-up story, a piece of fiction!

Jesus never instructed the Jews to tithe their money, let alone Gentiles. He didn't give any instruction on tithing. None of the Apostles taught on this. None of the New Testament writers taught that Gentile believers should give a tenth of their income or wealth. There is no evidence or proof of anybody in the New Testament giving a tithe of their money on a weekly basis! In the entire New Testament, there is only one mention about how much a believer should give. 2Cor 9:7 (Let) Every man give according to what he has purposed in his heart. Let him give freely, not because of compulsion or giving an amount that will cause him grief! For God loves it when a man gives willingly.

Just some food for thought.
 
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Whenever false teachers claim that believers today are commanded by God to "tithe" on their income (which is not true), they all use the same few selected verses to try to validate the lie.
Is it your claim that those verses where authored by false teachers?

Three of the most common tricks used to present false teaching as true is only to use certain, selected verses to "prove" what they say
hmm instead of quoting all 31,102 verses of the Bible they only quote a few?? sounds pretty bad alright.

while ignoring other verses, not providing the proper context, and ignoring the background of verses.
One of the first things they always say is that tithing was in place well before the Mosaic Law was instituted. And they always point out the same two people to "validate" this. So, let's take a look.

The first one always mentioned is Abraham, Gen 14:20,

Is that what makes it a lie?
 
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Well if this is what you personally believe those verses are saying then don't tithe. Just thinking God made all... gave me the works of HIs hands "You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet" sent Christ to died for the sins of the world.. seems He loves to give and give and give. I think giving back to Him which helps others.. what do I know
 
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In the NT, believers did not tithe, they shared everything.
In the OT the tithe was food, not money.

If people insist that we tithe according to Scripture: we all need to have allotments, and take 1/10 of all our produce to the temple in Jerusalem. Then we sit down and eat it, giving thanks to God for his blessing and provision; not forgetting to include the priests who do not have allotments, and the poor.
Anyone who has has too much produce to carry can sell it locally, carry the money to the temple, buy more food and sit down and eat, as before.
That is what was commanded in the OT. People gave 10% of their crops- and then they ate it.
The teaching, "tithing means giving 1/10 of your income to the church" is not seen in Scripture.
 
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Whenever false teachers claim that believers today are commanded by God to "tithe" on their income (which is not true), they all use the same few selected verses to try to validate the lie. Three of the most common tricks used to present false teaching as true is only to use certain, selected verses to "prove" what they say while ignoring other verses, not providing the proper context, and ignoring the background of verses.
One of the first things they always say is that tithing was in place well before the Mosaic Law was instituted. And they always point out the same two people to "validate" this. So, let's take a look.

The first one always mentioned is Abraham, Gen 14:20, "And blessed be the most high God, which has delivered your enemies into your hand. And he gave him tithes of all." This verse is always used as a major proof text to guilt people into giving a tenth of their income. The only way to properly understand Gen 14:20 is to look at the whole chapter, with the proper background, for the proper context.

In those days, when kings went to war, they would set up a war camp, away from where the battle would happen. Back then, armies carried many personal possessions to war, including family and slaves. They would bring livestock and food. There would be tents, extra weapons and other personal items. Whenever one group of people defeated another group in battle, the defeated ones would flee past their camp in fear of their lives or being captured. Defeated enemy soldiers would either be slain or turned into slaves. The victors would confiscate as much property of the losers, including any persons left in the camp, as they could take with them and destroy whatever was left. The confiscated possessions were called either booty or spoil.

Starting in verse 1, we see a coalition of four kings that went to war with five other kings. We will call the four kings Team A and the five kings Team B. Verses 1-10 tell how Team A defeated Team B. Verse 11 specifically tells us that all of the property of the defeated kings of Sodom and Gomorrah was taken as spoil, booty by Team A. Verses 11-12 tell of how Lot and Lot's property (this included Lot's family) was taken as spoil and how Abraham was informed of Lot's captivity, which prompts Abraham to take action to rescue Lot.

Verse 14 tells us that Abraham had 318 trained servants that he armed. "Trained servants" means that these 318 had been trained how to fight. Abraham was very wealthy to have 318 servants that could fight with swords. This also means he had at least another 100 servants to stay behind and watch. When we see the word "servants," this only indicates men. Many of these men would have their own wives and children with them, so Abraham's group that traveled with him could have easily numbered over 500 people. I want to emphasize that Abraham had great wealth, including gold, silver, gems, and jewelry.

Verse 15 tells of Abraham defeating Team A.

Verse 16 describes how "he brought back all the goods." It states that Abraham also brought back Lot and his goods. And then it ends by saying that Abraham brought back the women and the people. Abraham bringing back "all of the goods" is describing all of the property of Team B that Team A had taken as spoil. Then the verse specifically states that Abraham brought Lot and Lot's personal property back. The "women and people" in the verse's last part indicates the women and people of Team B. To bring clarity, I will paraphrase verse 16,

So Abraham brought back all of the property and people of Team B. Abraham also brought back Lot's family and personal possessions.

Verse 17 tells us that the king of Sodom went out to greet Abraham upon Abraham's victorious return.

Verse 18 tells us that Abraham spoke with Melchizedek first before meeting with the king of Sodom.

Verse 20 indicates that Abraham gave Melchizedek "tithes of all."

Verse 21 is Abraham talking to the king of Sodom, after his interchange with Melchizedek, and the king of Sodom, offering to Abraham that Abraham needed only to return the people of Team B, that Abraham had rescued from Team A, but that he could keep all of the property of Team B. This was a very generous offer from the king of Sodom, but Abraham refused the gift, verses 22-24.

There is a key element not stated in verse 16 that the readers would have understood in those ancient days, but modern-day readers of the text miss. Abraham brought back all of the property and the captured people of Team B. Abraham brought back Lot and Lot's family and Lot's personal property. However, any of the property, livestock or people that had belonged to Team A would have become the spoil of Abraham. So, Abraham had returned with the property and people of Team B, Lot, Lot's family, and Lot's property, and Abraham returned with the spoil, which was now his personal property.

Clear as mud? Just understand that when Scripture says that "Abraham gave Melchizedek "tithes of all," it is strictly restricted to the personal spoil Abraham returned with. How do we know this? Because this is explained in Heb 7:2-4. Verse 4 reads, "Now consider how great this man (Melchizedek) was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham GAVE THE TENTH OF THE SPOILS!!! Abraham gave a tenth of the spoil he captured from Team A! ABRAHAM DID NOT GIVE A TITHE OF THE PERSONAL WEALTH HE OWNED BEFORE HE WENT INTO BATTLE!

I guarantee you that anyone who is trying to promote the false teaching that Gentile believers today are obligated to tithe on their personal income or wealth has never explained this or ever cited Heb 7:4! First, in those days and in that area of the world, the practice of a person inferior in status to a leader or ruler by giving a "tithe" was common in those pagan cultures. Melchizedek didn't demand or ask for this tithe from Abraham. God didn't command or "nudge" Abraham to give a tithe to Melchizedek. Abraham recognized that Melchizedek was a Priest/King of Jehovah and only did what was normal in that culture.
Nowhere do you find in Scripture God commanding Abraham to tithe. You don't see Abraham giving a tithe before or after this ONE-TIME EVENT! The tithe, and system of tithing God established through Moses is completely unrelated or similar to the tithe Abraham gave Melchizedek once. There is no comparison that can be made here!
You have skipped most of what you wrong and just cited the the verse that says that Abraham tithed from the spoils, though I don't know anyone who says that we should tithe from our total wealth rather than from our income, and the point is to show that tithing is a concept that existed before Moses.

In any case, it is demonstrable that he followed the same laws that was taught to Moses. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Law of Moses is how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is central to the Gospel message, which is in accordance with Jesus being sent in fulfillment of the promise to bless us by turning us from our wickedness (Acts 3:25-26). This is also the Gospel that was made known in advance to Abraham in accordance with the promise (Galatians 3:8), which he taught to those in Haran in accordance with the promise (Genesis 12:1-5).

In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to by teaching him to walk in His way that he might know Him and Israel too, there are many verses that show rear God taught him how to walk in His way through the Law of Moses as being instructions for how to walk in God's way, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Joshua 22:5, 1 Kings 2:1-3, Isaiah 2:2-3, Psalms 103:7, and many others, and this is eternal life (John 17:3). In Genesis 18:19, Gos knew Abraham that he would teach his children and those of his household to walk in God's way by doing righteousness and justice that the Lord might bring to him all that He has promise. In Genesis 26:4-5, God will multiply Abraham's children as the stars in the heavens, to his children He will give all of these lands, and through his children, all of the nations of the earth will be blessed because Abraham heard God's voice and guarded His charge, His commandments, His statutes, and His laws. In Deuteronomy 30:16, if the Israelites will love God with all of their heart by walking in His ways and guarding His statutes, commandments, and laws, then they will live and multiply and God will bless them in the land that they go to posses. So all the promise was made to Abraham and brought about because he walked in God's way in obedience to His law, he taught his children how to do that, and because they did that. The Law of Moses is how the children of Abraham knew how to live blessed lives (Psalms 119:1-3), so the way to inherit the promise through faith of being a blessing to the nation is by teaching the nations how to live blesses lives by turning them from their wickedness in accordance with spreading the Gospel.

The other "proof" is Jacob. Gen 28:22. Jacob is on his way to Haran to find his uncle, Laban, as he escapes from the wrath of Esau and finds a wife from among his kinfolk. He had the vision of the ladder, and God had promised to be with him. After he awakes in the place where he had the vision and God spoke to him, he prepares to continue his journey. Gen 28: 20-22. First, Jacob vows to give a tenth of all he possesses. Jacob made a vow; God did not command him to give a tenth of everything he owns. Jacob is not following the example of any system already in place, as the system of tithing set up in the book of Deuteronomy is centuries away. And, what was set up by God through Moses was not a system where all Jews gave a tenth of everything they own. So, what Abraham gave one time and what Jacob vowed were not precursors to the system of tithing God established. There was no Tabernacle, Temple, or Levite to present the vow.
What was the provision Jacob put into his vow? He would give a tenth IF GOD PROTECT HIM UNTIL HE RETURNED TO HIS FATHER'S HOUSE. While Jacob knew he would eventually return to his father's house, he had no clue about the time frame. It was over 40 years until Jacob returned home. We see in Gen 35:29 that Jacob returned to his father's house and buried his father, Isaac.
After Isaac was buried, where or when do we see Jacob fulfilling the vow? We don't! They try to teach that the modern-day system of "tithing" is found in the Old Testament, but it isn't! You cannot find any teaching or example of a system of tithing that was based on every Jew giving a tenth of their income or personal wealth and doing this on a weekly basis. Did the Jews tithe? Yes. Did every Jew tithe? No. Did any Jew ever give a tithe of money or tithe based on their income? No! They can lie as much as they want, but what people are instructed to do these days is not found in the Old or New Testament.
In Genesis 26:20, Jacob was also taught how to guard God's way, which is in accordance with Abraham teaching his children and those of his household to walk in God's way (Genesis 18:19), so I don't see a good reason to think that the vow he made to God was completely devoid of context of being taught anything and that he was just making things up. Jacob had nothing and vowed that he would give a 10th of everything that God gave him, so it is speaking about tithing from his income, not tithing from his total possessions, and I don't see a good reason to think that he broke his vow.

Let's look at the New Testament.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You give tithe on mint, dill, and cummin, but you have neglected the more important aspects of the law, justice, mercy, and faith. You should do this, but you should also do the more important things.

Lk 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees! You give tithe on mint, rue and all manner of herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. But you should do these things and not let the other things undone.

How many times have "pastors" danced for joy and gleefully shout, "See, Jesus said to tithe!" while using these two verses? Well, a little explanation is needed here. First, the time of the gospels is considered a part of the Old Testament. The New Testament era did not start until Pentecost. So, Jesus is addressing Jewish men from an Old Testament view. There is no example in the gospels about Jesus instructing Gentiles to tithe. Second, God did not institute tithing on herbs or spices through jMoses. This was an element added by the Pharisees! Tithing on spices or herbs was not a part of Old Testament tithing. Third, these two verses do not represent two separate events. It is both writers putting the one-time event in their separate gospels. Fourth, if this event is "proof" used to justify tithing today, are the "pastors" tithing on the herbs and spices they have at home? Have you tithed your herbs and spices? Fifth, do you notice that Jesus doesn't talk about how the Pharisees tithed money? Why isn't it mentioned, if this is proof of tithing on money? Jesus didn't say, "Oh, you tithe on your herbs, but you are not tithing your money!" Not one verse in Scripture reads,"...and they gave a tithe of their money."
Jesus spent his ministry teach his followers how to obey the Law of Moses by word and by example, and he did not establish the New Covenant for the purpose of undermining everything that he taught, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Law of Moses (Jeremiah 31:33), which includes tithing, so pointing out that Jesus was teaching people who were under the Mosaic Covenant does not give us ay room to disregard anything that he taught, especially with respect to John 12:46-50. In Mathew 24:12-14, Jesus prothesied that the Gospel that he taught would be proclaimed to all nations, and in Matthew 28:16-20, he commissioned his disciples to bring the Gospel to all nations, teaching everything that he taught them, so he intended what he taught during his ministry to be taught to Gentiles.

The tithing of herbs and spices is in accordance with Leviticus 27:30 and Jesus affirming that it was something that they ought to be doing was affirming that they were acting accordance with what God has commanded. In an agricultural society, tithing from the produce of the land was thing from their income. In Deuteronomy 14:22-27, if someone lived too far away, then they could exchange their tithe for money ti purchase what they wanted when they got to the place where God would put His name. Likewise, in Leviticus 27:31, they could redeem their tithe with money, so I don't see a good reason to think tithing would exclude the use of money. Part of the tithe was intended to help the poor and those who work in ministry, so if someone wanted to use a portion of their income to buy food for them, then they could do that too.

Finally, we come to Lk 18:10-14. Verse 12 reads, "I fast twice a week and I give tithes of all that I possess." And you might be tempted to think, "Well, there it is! The Pharisee gives tithe on everything he owns!" Except, there is one little problem. Because if you start at Lk 18:9, you read, "And Jesus spoke this PARABEL unto certain men who trusted in themselves, that they (believed they) were righteous and despised others." He told this as a parable! A parable is not a true story! It is a made-up story, a piece of fiction!

Jesus never instructed the Jews to tithe their money, let alone Gentiles. He didn't give any instruction on tithing. None of the Apostles taught on this. None of the New Testament writers taught that Gentile believers should give a tenth of their income or wealth. There is no evidence or proof of anybody in the New Testament giving a tithe of their money on a weekly basis! In the entire New Testament, there is only one mention about how much a believer should give. 2Cor 9:7 (Let) Every man give according to what he has purposed in his heart. Let him give freely, not because of compulsion or giving an amount that will cause him grief! For God loves it when a man gives willingly.

Just some food for thought.
While Jesus spoke against things like trusting in ourselves, showing contempt for others, pride, and hypocrisy, he never spoke against obeying what God has commanded, but rather he set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to what God has commanded, so he would have still taught full obedience to the Law of Moses by example even if he had said nothing, as we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked (1 John 2:6) Jesus was not in disagreement with the Father about which commands we should follow, so we do not need him to have repeated anything in order for us to know that we should still obey the Father. Giving freely of on our own accord is in addition to the tithe, not in place of it.
 
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