Verichip was only the start

[filmdirector]

so after reading one article i went to look up a website from the usda and well, welcome to tracking chips...

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml

So how long before this technology makes it to humans? While this isn't the GPS tracking data yet, those chips have been reported to exist as 'digital angel'... The RFID part though is interesting and definitely moving down the track of 'tracking chips'..

Let me see, a few years between verichip for animals and then verichip for humans, and i can confirm they were implanting people out here in Las Vegas 2 weeks ago, we ran a news story on it, I know people who were there when it was happening.

I never thought for a moment that the gps/rfid tracking would be here already. Just two weeks ago verichip was saying 'they don't have gps tracking' but that's only true to the degree of the implants they were injecting people with *that day*, and was not a blanket statement about their *other* chips that do!

Imagine a world where the antichrist knows your movements, what you buy, who you associate and what each of you bring to that meeting... Imagine a world where 2+2=4 i.e. brandon comes and meets paul at 2pm at dinglehoppers, at 2:10pm ethan shows up... Ethan had gunpowder that was bought the day before at 7:28am, brandon has ball bearings he bought a week before at costmiser at 2:56pm on a friday afternoon, and paul arrives with lead piping that records indicate was obtrained two blocks away at 12:01pm... Phone records indicate a flurry of activity in those three people and red flags go up at the 'dhs' and key words were picked up by eschalon that indicated possible terror plans... Suddenly authorities bust into the groups meeting and arrest and cart off all three for planning a terrorist attack... Sound like science fiction? It's just about science fact, all we need is the widespread implementation of tracking and purchasing chips (technology already exists), and for more widespread implementation of the RFID system for objects (already designed by MIT), and next the phone system (already covered by current legislation), and the database to hold the 'associations' database (has been in existence since the 1980's, I saw a report on beyond 2000 about it when they were using the system to track organized crime - it's basically a relational database)...

So in short, look up as the time is near...

 

[filmdirector]

sorry for the multipost but further to this:

The National Animal Identification System (NAIS)


The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is a national program intended to identify animals and track them as they come into contact with, or commingle with, animals other than herdmates from their premises of origin.

The system is being developed for all animals that will benefit from rapid tracebacks in the event of a disease concern. Currently, working groups comprised of industry and government representatives are developing plans for cattle, swine, sheep, goats, horses, poultry, bison, deer, elk, llamas, and alpacas.

Already, many of these species can be identified through some sort of identification system, but these systems are not consistent across the country. Tracing an animal’s movements can therefore be a time–consuming endeavor during a disease investigation, especially if the animal has moved across State lines.

In April 2004, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced the framework for implementing the NAIS—an animal identification and tracking system that will be used in all States and that will operate under national standards. When fully operational, the system will be capable of tracing a sick animal or group of animals back to the herd or premises that is the most likely source of infection. It will also be able to trace potentially exposed animals that were moved out from that herd or premises. The sooner animal health officials can identify infected and exposed animals and premises, the sooner they can contain the disease and stop its spread.

The NAIS will enhance U.S. efforts to respond to intentionally or unintentionally introduced animal disease outbreaks more quickly and effectively. USDA’s long–term goal is to establish a system that can identify all premises and animals that have had direct contact with a foreign animal disease or a domestic disease of concern within 48 hours of discovery.

The first step in implementing the NAIS is identifying and registering premises that house animals. Such premises would include locations where livestock and poultry are managed, marketed, or exhibited. Knowing where animals are located is the key to efficient, accurate, and cost–effective epidemiologic investigations and disease–control efforts.

USDA anticipates that all States will have the capability to register premises according to the national standards by 2005. Officials with USDA’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) are currently training State officials how to use a standardized premises registration system. USDA is also evaluating alternative registration systems that States or others have developed and want to use, to ensure these systems meet the national standards. In addition, USDA is working with States and industry to educate the public about the NAIS.

As premises are registered, another component of the NAIS—animal identification—will be integrated into the system. Unique animal identification numbers (AINs) will be issued to individually identified premises. In the case of animals that move in groups through the production chain—such as swine and poultry—the group will be identified through a group/lot identification number (Group/Lot IDs).

USDA is developing the standards for collecting and reporting information, but industry will determine which type of identification method works best for each species. These methods could include radio frequency identification tags, retinal scans, DNA, or others. As long as the necessary data are sent to USDA’s information repositories in a standardized form, it will be accepted.

USDA will build upon existing identification systems and allow for a transition period from systems currently defined in the Code of Federal Regulations before requiring AINs or Group/Lot IDs. Working with States and industry, USDA will also evaluate various animal identification technologies to determine how the collection of animal movement records can best be automated.

As premises are registered and animals or groups of animals are identified based on the standard protocols, USDA will begin collecting information about animal movements from one premises to another. With an efficient, effective animal tracking system in place, USDA will be able to perform rapid tracebacks in case of an animal disease outbreak. As envisioned, only Federal, State, and Tribal animal health authorities would have direct access to the national premises and animal identification information repositories. They need this information to accomplish their job of safeguarding animal health.

USDA is investigating various options to protect the confidentiality of the information. It is important to note that the national repositories will include information only for animal and disease tracking purposes. Proprietary production data will remain in private databases.

If USDA decides to make all or parts of the NAIS mandatory, APHIS will follow the normal rulemaking process. The public will have the opportunity to comment upon any proposed regulations.

 

[filmdirector]

ok sorry for the 3rd multipost but some quick research found:

the company who produced the verichip... www.verichipcorp.com is the same company that does the GPS tracking 'digital angel' www.digitalangelcorp.com which is guess what? the same company as Applied Digital Solutions www.adsx.com who guess what? Are the same company who invented the Verichip and is the new name for the company...

This gets better and better...

 

[Zadok7000]

You're right, this is getting better and better...

 

[OhhJim]

Imagine a world where, even if a chip is mandatory, people learn to counterfeit them, or change the coding. Imagine people putting metal shields over their hand, so it can't track them. Imagine people hacking off other peoples hands and taking them around with them to fool the trackers. Imagine how much energy is required to send a signal from anywhere on earth to a satellite, so the GPS can function.

I'm not saying it can't happen, only that there's a lot of problems that need to be addressed before it's viable.

 

[Zadok7000]

Imagine a world where, even if a chip is mandatory, people learn to counterfeit them, or change the coding. Imagine people putting metal shields over their hand, so it can't track them. Imagine people hacking off other peoples hands and taking them around with them to fool the trackers. Imagine how much energy is required to send a signal from anywhere on earth to a satellite, so the GPS can function.

I'm not saying it can't happen, only that there's a lot of problems that need to be addressed before it's viable.

In a world...where both of our cars were totally underwater...

Oh sorry!

 

[Carey]

Checkout the news article on the thread "the mark in the next 10 years.

 

[filmdirector]

Imagine a world where, even if a chip is mandatory, people learn to counterfeit them, or change the coding. Imagine people putting metal shields over their hand, so it can't track them. Imagine people hacking off other peoples hands and taking them around with them to fool the trackers. Imagine how much energy is required to send a signal from anywhere on earth to a satellite, so the GPS can function.

I'm not saying it can't happen, only that there's a lot of problems that need to be addressed before it's viable.

Jim imagine a world before flight, before cell phones, before tv, before radio, before spaceflight, before computers, before dna coding, before electricity...

It will happen, eventually, and those scenarios you presented are somewhat possible, but the thing is if you can't buy food because of not having the mark, you're in deep trouble, especially in a world where there's not enough food to go around...

 

[jaxxman]

Jim imagine a world before flight, before cell phones, before tv, before radio, before spaceflight, before computers, before dna coding, before electricity...

It will happen, eventually, and those scenarios you presented are somewhat possible, but the thing is if you can't buy food because of not having the mark, you're in deep trouble, especially in a world where there's not enough food to go around...

Why are you worrying about the mark when you should be fearing judgement day.

 

[OhhJim]

It will happen, eventually, and those scenarios you presented are somewhat possible, but the thing is if you can't buy food because of not having the mark, you're in deep trouble, especially in a world where there's not enough food to go around...

Ok, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that the chip has been made mandatory, you can't dig it out, you can't hack it, you can't shield it, and you somehow can't cut off the hand of somebody else who has it(all of which, incidentally, would make it the most secure electronic gizmo in the short history of electronic gizmos, and better than anything the government has ever implemented). Then let's assume that they solve the problem of giving an implanted chip enough power to send gps messages to a satellite, or to a tower that is miles away.

My next question is, does this mean the Anti-Christ is necessarily going to show up soon? Couldn't his arrival still be years, decades, centuries away? Just because the technology is available to produce your vision of the Mark of the Beast, that doesn't mean it has to happen immediately. In fact, I don't recall the verse that says, "When you see the technology for the Mark appear, you know the end is near".

 

[filmdirector]

jim, to look at end times approaching we need to look at the BIG picture, it's everything as a whole, on each individual thing they don't matter so much, but when we place all the pieces of the prophetic jigsaw together correctly it paints a very big picture. We can't just focus on one little piece of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle...

for many it seems to be a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.

jaxxman why do you assume i'm worried, my heart is summed up in what i said in the op, "so look up as the time is near " i'm excited dude, i'm not fearful, i think this stuff is awesome bring it on!

I'm also excited because it totally backs up a film script i've had in development for a long time... I'm totally excited about this stuff, ok i don't like the thought of the world turning to crud and being here as it's happening but heck, this stuff is cool! It verifies what the Bible teaches and states will happen... That's something to be excited about, to know your faith is in the right place to know God is real to know the Author and perfector of our faith! That's what gets me excited!!! It's all coming true just as God said it would, and you know what at the end of the day, the more I see this stuff the more I'm motivated to not waste any more time getting caught up in worldly activity that so easily distracts from the call God has placed on our lives, but to get out there and live every moment for Christ as if today is the day of His return!

Let me give a few a word of advice, and I've noticed this a lot on forums, people tend to project their own fears and perceptions onto what others say when they're not saying that at all... I've seen it happen so many times, people's assumptions, presumptions and pereptions about life tend to get projected onto others and can I encourage people to be careful not to do that?

It's stuff like questions like 'why are you so fearful?', that's an assumption because I'm not. Where in what I have stated have i ever given any indication i'm afraid? I haven't, that's a presumption and assumption that has been made. Just pointing it out because it happens so much here in the CF forums it's just getting a little old, and it gets really boring after a while... So please if anyone in general reads this, please be careful about making assumptions and presumptions based on personal biases and feelings... It would be greatly appreciated by your brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[OhhJim]

jim, to look at end times approaching we need to look at the BIG picture, it's everything as a whole, on each individual thing they don't matter so much, but when we place all the pieces of the prophetic jigsaw together correctly it paints a very big picture. We can't just focus on one little piece of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle...

That's very true. Most things that I see is an indication that the time could be short...or it could be another hundred years or more. It doesn't have to be within a few years for the prophecies to still be true.

For example, I don't see the Beast/AC being able to take control of most of the world, yet. There are still many millions in the world who would oppose him. Don't forget the 50 million good old boy Americans with guns.

Besides, almost every generation thought theirs was the last. In Western Europe in the eleventh century, Christians were certain it was the end times-the thousand years was up, the Mongols and Vikings were invading, etc. I've read books from 1900, that insisted the signs were all there, it was obvious.

 

[filmdirector]

yeah totally true Jim and I totally agree with ya on that, i won't disagree with you at all and am in unity with you on that.

One thing to consider at the same time though is the rate of technology change, knowledge is being said to be doubling rapidly these days (I can't recall the rate), it's an exponential growth... When we're already talking about cloaking technology, and bending light around objects, and having someone having done that on a microwave radio frequency (different part of the frequency spectrum), when we talk about clothes that are soft to touch and yet when stabbed with a knife becomes hard and impenetrable, when we have the human genome completely mapped soon, nano technology, healing on a molecular level, knowledge that is stuff that only God had before, it's definitely looking more and more possible in our lifetime...

When we've gone from a world without electricity, cars, planes, cd's, microwaves, videos, cell phones, etc etc etc in just over 100 years to having extreme technology, I mean the world has changed radically in even just the last 200 years... Technology has exploded and imagine bringing someone from 200 years ago to the world today, it would be freaky to them... Imagine it... Now imagine that with the worlds population exploding (twice as many people on earth today as when either my parents or i was born), and technology that fosters more and more knowledge, when they're already predicting the ability to interface and download the human brain by 2050, it kinda starts getting a little on the creepy side... I've seen video of people operating computers with their thoughts in scientific experiments... I mean we've had face transplants and hand transplants and now they've created an artificial stomach... I mean this stuff is crazy, and it's here and happening today... Imagine the world in the next 50 years... I don't think I can even begin to comprehend it... You know that the computers today are at the 'supercomputer' ability as of a couple of years ago (i.e. they now do a gigaflop of data in a specified amount of time), i.e. computers today = and surpass CRAY supercomputers of a few years ago?

on a side note, just getting back to the technology, i went to work today, and we had our reporters out at the airport. They were covering the story of how the airport is now using RFID for luggage... We've run like 3-5 stories on RFID in the last week or so, and this is a major network affiliate station...

it's kinda creepin me out actually first we ran a story on verichip out here, and now rfid at the airport, and there was like one other story we ran... this technology is coming thick and fast lately...

i should probably make copies of our reports...

in terms of 100 years ago though Israel *did not exist*, today it does. It was closer back 100 years ago than ever before, but we are even closer now... The Israel prophecy has happened... If you go to the united nations website (i'll provide some links), and listen to the UN General Assembly meetings they're saying the words 'peace and safety, peace and security' that has never happened before... They are also talking about the roadmap to peace, and guess what is a part of that? Jerusalem!!! You know the signing of the peace treaty for 7 years? That's on the table right now!

A few things of interest:

http://www.un.org/peace/ <- look at the words 'peace & security' then look at 1 Thess 5:3 'While people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come upon then suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape'

http://www.un.org/webcast/ <- click on the general assembly link and http://www.un.org/webcast/ga/59/ and look around for the videos of all the world leaders speaking they all talk about the roadmap to peace and also peace and security... it matches the bible prophesies about jerusalem being a stone around all nations necks...

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/ <- eradication of poverty, the end result will be over-consumption of the earth and the wearing out of natural rescources which matches the prophesies about the earth wearing out like a garment...

I've got a bunch of stuff and I'm planning on editing the video of each speaker and each time the words peace and safety or peace and security are said...

 

[filmdirector]

Just another quick note from this year's United Nations General Assembly:

http://www.un.org/webcast/ga/61/pdfs/usa-e.pdf

do a search for the word peace in President Bush's address...

Also read this part of his speech:

The world must also stand up for peace in the Holy Land. I'm committed to two democratic states -- Israel and Palestine -- living side-by-side in peace and security. I'm committed to a Palestinian state that has territorial integrity and will live peacefully with the Jewish state of Israel. This is the vision set forth in the road map -- and helping the parties reach this goal is one of the great objectives of my presidency.

The Palestinian people have suffered from decades of corruption and violence and the daily humiliation of occupation. Israeli citizens have endured brutal acts of terrorism and constant fear of attack since the birth of their nation. Many brave men and women have made the commitment to peace. Yet extremists in the region are stirring up hatred and trying to prevent these moderate voices from prevailing.

Guys I'd encourage anyone who's studying eschatology to look and listen to what is going on in the United Nations... They are speaking the very words that the Bible prophesies...

One World Govt = United Nations
One World Religious System = Islam (i.e. false prophet)

Mark of the Beast = trade and security based on RFID and GPS technology possibly coupled with DNA coding of all citizens, primarily used for security (i.e. tracking people and knowing who's a terrorist, where people meet, what objects they have with them), the current speedpass technology also being used with Visa/Mastercard, verichip and applied digital solutions providing tracking chipping technology, already some states are making it mandatory for animals to have tracking chips (not just id chips but *tracking* chips)... Welcome to the brave new world...

More there's increase in knowledge (Human DNA Genome Project, bending of light etc) as mentioned above, as well as people going to and fro, by 2030 the moller skycar is said that it will be flying (note they are controlled by GPS and not humans while flying)... Think about this, with planes being a terrorist threat, skycars make much more sense because less damage is possible... It makes sense, all in the name of peace and security... Suborbital space travel, heard of Virgin Galactic?

Israel, and the roadmap to peace, they are planning on signing a peace treaty, that's the end goal of the roadmap to peace, is the signing of a peace treaty with israel...

As I said, it's the bigger picture, all this in synchronicity... The time is close, maybe a hundred years, but I'd say less than 500 for sure...

Let's look at the UN again... We already have the European Union (EU), now there's the African Union in the works, what next the North American Union, South American Union? The Oceania Union? The Asian Union? How about a total of 10 world unions? How about the Middle East Union? You know it all is verifying the Bible prophecies...

(edit) One more thing Babylon! Where is it? Iraq. Who was rebuilding Babylon? Saddam Hussein. Which country is at the center of the world stage today? Iraq. Where is the conflict between the seed of Ishmael and the rest of the world? Middle East. What religion and country is trying to usher in the Mahdi? Islam and Iran. Babylon was prophesied, and Babylon will again rise to the forefront of the world stage again... Just wait and watch, it will...

 

[OhhJim]

Let's look at the UN again... We already have the European Union (EU), now there's the African Union in the works, what next the North American Union, South American Union? The Oceania Union? The Asian Union? How about a total of 10 world unions? How about the Middle East Union? You know it all is verifying the Bible prophecies...

If there were 10 unions, yes, I'd say that would be fulfilling prophecies. But there aren't. Maybe there will be. Maybe there won't be. Right now, there's only one "Union", and the idea in your mind that if there were 9 more, it would fit prophecy. Certainly, it would. And if Prince Charles came from Persia, and ruled the world, he'd be a good candidate for the Anti-Christ, but he doesn't.

 

[filmdirector]

jim a reminder about not seieng the forest for the trees, you seem to always narrow in on one minor detail and ignore the other 99 details and we just can't live in a now only mentality and ignore everything else around, if we take that approach, we'll never get prophecy if you look at it that way...

We have a saying in Australia, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

If we take an approach and say yeah there's these 90 out of 100 prophecies being fulfilled all at once, but because 10 aren't then therefore the 90 verifiable prophecies are invalid and false then we'll miss the boat.

Not trying to be personal here, but this is what I've observed in you over the last few years of being at CF.

 

[OhhJim]

As a matter of fact, I like truth. I see a lot of Christians getting all excited over generalities, and "maybes", and "it could happens". When somebody posts something full of weak points, I'm generally not going to address them all. I'm going to address the weakest one or two.

Besides, many people (you included) post in such a way that one can't really disagree, because you don't make pointed arguments. You say things like, "welcome to the brave new world", or "heard of Virgin Galactic?". Who can argue with that?

People (like you) also make predictions about the future: "Babylon will again rise to the forefront of the world stage again... Just wait and watch, it will." Who can argue with that? I can't tell the future. I'm not going to waste time addressing predictions, because there's no point. I don't have the gift of prophecy.

So, how about that 10-union thing? How many Unions do we have, again?

 

[icedtea]

Imagine people hacking off other peoples hands and taking them around with them to fool the trackers.

Wouldn't work. Once the hand dies, the signal doesn't show up.

 

[filmdirector]

currently:

EU, upcoming African Union, NAFTA, ASEAN, and a few others, but there is more to it, if you look at the UN you will see they are forming all sorts of Unions, and they're on the books.

The reason no one can argue my points are that they are verifiable facts...

Babylon will rise to the forefront, it's written in the Bible.

The problem is you can't see beyond the end of your nose because you don't want to believe the truth.

 

[NumberOneSon]

As a matter of fact, I like truth. I see a lot of Christians getting all excited over generalities, and "maybes", and "it could happens". When somebody posts something full of weak points, I'm generally not going to address them all. I'm going to address the weakest one or two.

Besides, many people (you included) post in such a way that one can't really disagree, because you don't make pointed arguments. You say things like, "welcome to the brave new world", or "heard of Virgin Galactic?". Who can argue with that?

People (like you) also make predictions about the future: "Babylon will again rise to the forefront of the world stage again... Just wait and watch, it will." Who can argue with that? I can't tell the future. I'm not going to waste time addressing predictions, because there's no point. I don't have the gift of prophecy.

Excellently put. Keep testing the predictions of men and keep excercising discernment and discretion, bro.

It never ceases to amaze me that, in the four years I've been here, this board has had a 100% prophecy/prediction failure rate, and yet anyone (like yourself) who expresses a modicum of discernment and restraint is immediately painted as "not believing the truth" or "blind" to what may or may not happen in the future. I believe time will ultimately vindicate the healthy skepticism and discernment we both share.

In Christ,

Acts6:5